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Perfection
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It is difficult, if not impossible to love the perfect. Perfection is inhuman. It is the attributes of man that's what's lovable.
This is why it's so difficult to love God. We can stand in awe of God, but it's hard to love God.
It is Christ that we love. It is Christ that allows us to love God. For his suffering is imperfection. He is the vehicle God provides us to transmit our love.
-------------------- Now when He was asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God would come, He answered them and said, "The kingdom of God does not come with observation; nor will they say, 'See here!' or 'See there!' For indeed, the kingdom of God is within you." Luke 17:20-21 (New King James Version)
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Re: Perfection [Re: RRRR]
#5926096 - 08/02/06 05:10 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Christ shat.
In other words, he was only human. He was born, he suffered, he died, he thought, he perceived. He loved, he learned, and he taught. He was a human.
-------------------- "Now that the principalities and the powers stockpile weapons of mass destruction, contaminate the earth with their feverish industry, release floods of images to trigger insatiable desires, treat animals and humans as commodities and functions of a market, the devil must be grinning from ear to ear."
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RRRR
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And he laughed.
-------------------- Now when He was asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God would come, He answered them and said, "The kingdom of God does not come with observation; nor will they say, 'See here!' or 'See there!' For indeed, the kingdom of God is within you." Luke 17:20-21 (New King James Version)
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Re: Perfection [Re: RRRR]
#5926337 - 08/02/06 06:26 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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RRRR said: It is difficult, if not impossible to love the perfect. Perfection is inhuman. It is the attributes of man that's what's lovable.
Perfection is relative. In the ultimate sense, perfection does not exist, but within specific boundaries, it does. For example, if all of the items in my department have accurate on-hands, I'm 100% in stock, my salesfloor has received a detailed zone, and my backroom is inventory prepped and doesn't contain excessive overstock, then that is perfect. 
Remember how I said, in the ultimate sense, perfection does not exist? Perfection cannot be obtained, its a conceputal state bound by relative boundaries.
As far as all of that god and jesus stuff goes, I couldn't find any meaning in it, so I cannot address it.
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I was speaking strictly of ontological and theological perfection. There are however two major parallel concepts of perfection when it comes to philosophy. They are absolute perfection and progressive perfection.
With the latter imperfection is perfection. Quite the paradox, eh?
-------------------- Now when He was asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God would come, He answered them and said, "The kingdom of God does not come with observation; nor will they say, 'See here!' or 'See there!' For indeed, the kingdom of God is within you." Luke 17:20-21 (New King James Version)
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Re: Perfection [Re: RRRR]
#5927385 - 08/02/06 11:30 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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The Laughing Jesus, is not a book, these are the vipers workings, once again, rid yourself of such nonsense, there was no such historical account of Jesus humorous occurrences,
These are the sources of the Jews, and their conspiracy to falsify the historical account of real prof, these writings are spiders web, they entangle their influence conjointly of the true message, Know the difference in the dictation,
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That didn't make much sense, but OK.
-------------------- Now when He was asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God would come, He answered them and said, "The kingdom of God does not come with observation; nor will they say, 'See here!' or 'See there!' For indeed, the kingdom of God is within you." Luke 17:20-21 (New King James Version)
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These are the sources of the Jews, and their conspiracy to falsify the historical account of real prof
Uhh...
-------------------- "Now that the principalities and the powers stockpile weapons of mass destruction, contaminate the earth with their feverish industry, release floods of images to trigger insatiable desires, treat animals and humans as commodities and functions of a market, the devil must be grinning from ear to ear."
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Listen young ones, look at the authors of that book,
Peter Gandy, and Timothy Freak, have their names all in bold, making it clear of their taking the postion of a gnostic, {gnostic wisdom} implying there is no required faith in their fairytales, also their quick defense of their stance in implying {religious lies}, this is refered to the proponent churches back in the day, that might of had corrupted influence over regions back in the bibical days, and so these Gnostics implied there own views on the historical accounts of Jesus,
as you also look these authors didn't forget to mention there accomplishment in spectative writings about
Jesus Mysteries, Jesus and Lost Goddess, See their heart is into fictional writing, they know its fictional writing but there pulling the classical stunt of the jews, their selling influence, and corrupting the crediability of the gospels, these are the money changers that Jesus overturned when they were blasphying the temple, Why adopt the view of some fictious writer, when he maybe trying to learn about truth, but he also ist trying imply a false idea, to gain presuasion, with their ideas and making Jesus totally fictous, this was also occuring back in the day,
even after the few centuries after Jesus's death, these Gnostics were making these speculative writings, the prof, Nag Hammadi books in Egypt, these where all Gnostic writings, they falsifying the account of Christ accusing the Churches of doing the same, but they took the leading role regardless in falsfying Jesus's story with heresy
they where accually a bunch of aroistocrats that thought they were too good for the churches, but the church didn't even receive the gospels until 150 A.D.
This was not the motive of the traditional Christian faith, Christians knew of these sects that took on this attitude of knowing more than they acutally did, they had a wild imagination, and their own parnaioa of conspiracy made them do the same, but see their guilty of conspiracy
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Listen up bigot. In the first place, Gnostic literature is far more sophisticated than you are able to grok at your present stage of human development, that much is evident by your remarks. What makes them Gnostic is that they never intended their midrashic myths to be taken literally. First try to educate yourself about Hebrew midrash and then you might understand that only the ignorant, concrete-minded multitudes took the canonical 'empty-tomb narratives' as literal. Moreover, the condescension of Constantine's henchmen forced the issue, enlisting the ignorant multitudes to their stilted, corrupted cause in the Name of Christ.
The Laughing Jesus notion is consonant with certain Islamic Docetic notions of Jesus. Imagine the pagan Greek (Johannine) idea of 'God clothed in flesh' eliminated from Christianity and 'a Man anointed by God' notion (the Synoptic notion) restored. Jesus would be a prophet instead of a Greek Hero born of God and a mortal woman (like Heracles and so many others). Muslims and Christians would shake hands in peace if not for this heinous bit of Christian imperialism inherited from imperial Rome. Not only that, a whole lot more Jews would have entertained the possibility of Y'shua being a prophet. Jews were not and are not, going to become pagans by accepting the pagan myths that Freke and Gandy so aptly identified in Christian myth.
If Y'shua ben Miriam was indeed a flesh and blood human being, try to remember that He was a Jew before you say anything bigoted about Jews. It was only the Jews who had prestigious positions that had anything to lose with the reforms that the Galilean Jew Y'shua was preaching. The Jewish priesthood's corruption was quickly adopted and adapted by the Roman Catholic priesthood in all of its patriarchal, misogynistic, fear-exploiting horror. Quite unlike the egalitarian Gnostics who regarded the being of female humans as equal to male humans.
What are you, a Mel Gibson fan?
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MarkostheGnostic said: Muslims and Christians would shake hands in peace if not for this heinous bit of Christian imperialism inherited from imperial Rome. Not only that, a whole lot more Jews would have entertained the possibility of Y'shua being a prophet.
Wow... that makes sense.
I'd like to see that happen, that would certainly resolve everything. 
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capliberty said: The Laughing Jesus, is not a book, these are the vipers workings, once again, rid yourself of such nonsense, there was no such historical account of Jesus humorous occurrences,
These are the sources of the Jews, and their conspiracy to falsify the historical account of real prof, these writings are spiders web, they entangle their influence conjointly of the true message, Know the difference in the dictation,
Mel Gibson? is that you?
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Only one thing is perfect, Life. What we live is perfection, '' Yeah but what about the wars and all that shit ? '' He gave us free will, the opportunity to decide for ourselves thats perfection.
-------------------- WE CAN'T CHANGE THE WORLD. LIKE EVERY PERSON, THE WORLD IS WHAT HE IS, THE ONLY THINGS WE HAVE TO DO IS, RESPECT IT AND DEAL WITH IT.
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No, but I like the cross reference to Mel Gibson, because I think he has an understanding of the truth just for the fact that he does gain appeal amongst most Christians
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That's nonsense. The mere fact that most Christians like Mel Gibson means jack shit about Mel Gibson's knowledge of Truth.
Furthermore, most [American] Christians aren't that in touch with the Truth as propounded by Jesus either.
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Some 69 percent of conservative Christians favor military action against Baghdad; 10 percentage points more than the U.S. adult population as a whole.
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines02/1010-02.htm
69% of Christians for war...doesn't sound much like loving thy neighbor and turning the other cheek. Jesus supported peace, not war.
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A new Christian Science Monitor/TIPP poll shows sizeable segments of the public support other "taboos," too: One in 3 could accept government-sanctioned torture of suspects. One in 4 could envision a scenario in which they'd back use of nuclear weapons.
http://www.csmonitor.com/2001/1114/p1s3-usju.html
These aren't Christians. These are brainwashed sheep.
Bahh.
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Correction. Mel Gibson may CALL himself anything he wants, including Christian, but he is an ultra-right Catholic cultist who is a holocaust denier like his hater father. That means the man is quite mad. I have met enough holocaust survivors in my life - even one who was switched by Dr.Mengela himself with his riding crop at Auschwitz. He's a freakin' actor, not a thinker, not a philosopher. Most importantly, he is a bigot which means he's a fookin' moron.
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MarkostheGnostic said: Mel Gibson may CALL himself anything he wants, including Christian, but he is an ultra-right Catholic cultist who is a holocaust denier like his hater father.
Do you have any sources to support this claim?
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South Park isn't a source!?
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"One cannot be a part-time nihilist." - Albert Camus
When did Camus say that?
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I define Christian as the Good Book does :"By their fruits you will know them." As to the other stuff - it's all over the freakin' media!
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