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InvisibleZippoZM
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I need some texas holdem advise
    #5925836 - 08/02/06 03:39 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Im going to go play a tournament tonight, and could use some advise.

i never win, and i think this might be because i always pay the blind to see the flop, is this a bad thing?


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Re: I need some texas holdem advise [Re: ZippoZ]
    #5925858 - 08/02/06 03:47 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Yes


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Re: I need some texas holdem advise [Re: ZippoZ]
    #5925877 - 08/02/06 03:56 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

zippoz said:
Im going to go play a tournament tonight, and could use some advise.

i never win




dont play
t's the best advice you'll get


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Re: I need some texas holdem advise [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #5925884 - 08/02/06 03:59 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

well its a free game, no cash, just some bs point system and the winner gets a prize, free beer i think. so i dont have anything to loose by playing.


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"People do it every day, they talk to themselves ... they see themselves as they'd like to be, they don't have the courage you have, to just run with it."


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Re: I need some texas holdem advise [Re: ZippoZ]
    #5925888 - 08/02/06 04:00 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

if you have nothing for a hand then yes it is a waste of money to see the flop...


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Re: I need some texas holdem advise [Re: ZippoZ]
    #5925890 - 08/02/06 04:01 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

if you dont have to ante and have no start of a flush, straight or greater thann Jack high , fold

if its a progressive blind then a few passed on hands will really help


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Re: I need some texas holdem advise [Re: ZippoZ]
    #5925915 - 08/02/06 04:09 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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zippoz said:
free beer




you've won already!


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Re: I need some texas holdem advise [Re: goobler]
    #5925934 - 08/02/06 04:15 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

It also depends on where you are sitting and how many people are in the hand.

It goes like this. It is most desirable to be the last person to bet (because you have the additional information of if people bet or fold). So, if you are in a position where you will be the last to bet/fold, then you should go in on some hands that you might not want to play if you had to be the first one to bet. For example, K10 is a decent hand, but you might want to fold it if you had to bet first (because if you hit your 10 or your K you might not have the best kicker, and would have to act in front of the person who might have you beat) but if you had to bet last, you might want to hold it, because you'll have a lot more info to gauge if you are doing good or not.

Likewise, some hands are bad to play heads up but good to play if there are 8 other people in the hand. Things like QJ suited aren't that good if you are in the pot with one other person, but are good if you are playing against 8 or 9 people with money in the pot. The reason is the return on your risk. If your QJ suited pays off you likely have a straight or a flush. Betting 1 blind to earn 2.5 blinds against one other player is not worth the lower chance of getting the straight or the flush, but betting 1 blind against 9 other blinds leads to a much more favorable set of odds. You still have the same chance of hitting your hand, but the higher pay-off of bigger pots (combined with the chance that people will stay in or raise you back, giving you even more blinds for your risk) make the same hand much better in pots with lots of people.

These two ideas synergize. A hand like KQ suited is very good to put money behind when there are 10 other people in the pot and you are the last to act after the flop.

If you are playing a free game, people are more likely to be aggressive, in which case it's best to sit back and play tight. Let people bet into you when everyone is playing aggressively at low or no money games.

Good luck.


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Re: I need some texas holdem advise [Re: tomk]
    #5925981 - 08/02/06 04:30 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Basically, if you have problems of not winning a lot, play really tight poker, as in be really conservative. Dont bluff your 2 7 off suit when the flop is Q K J. Fold lots of hands, until your the big blind (ussually see the flop for free) or you have a decent hand. Just play the waiting game. I see a lot of people get killed when they just get bored and decide to call an all in with a crappy hand in hopes that they will strike riches.


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Re: I need some texas holdem advise [Re: bhamlaxy]
    #5925987 - 08/02/06 04:32 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah what he said is good too.

Pretty much every mediocre hand you fold is a win unless you are better then everyone else at the table.


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Re: I need some texas holdem advise [Re: tomk]
    #5926011 - 08/02/06 04:41 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

hahahahahahaha. i think thats like funniest question i've seen in a month. i recently have started trying to play as a job so i've got a head filled with like all sorts of math and probability trees and all that. seems pretty funny to try and sum it up.

basically i'd say if you're not very good, while the blinds are low pay to see every flop. if you hit two high pair or trips go all in. don't pay unless you have 4 of a high straight or high flush. if you hit high flush or high straight go all in (as long as there isn't two of the same cards on the board). thats pretty much the simplest strategy i can think of. if poeple see you going all in alot they'll think you're bluffing, and if you're only playing good hands you'll get a caller at some point.

once you get down to 4 poeple or once the blinds go up to more than 1/20 your chips fold anything except AK, Aq, AJ, KQ and medium to high pockets. if you get high pockets (j's or higher) raise 2/10ths your stack, if you get an all in counter raise don't call it unless you know the person you're playing against will play crap.

uh...

i'm going to make my own poker post in a while, once this one is dissappeared.


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Re: I need some texas holdem advise [Re: truekimbo2]
    #5926128 - 08/02/06 05:21 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Oh yea, another good tip is to not go crazy when you have a good hand. If you flop a full house, or three of a kind, you CAN make a GIGANTIC bet if you want, but you can end up winning more money if you check or make small bets and calls. The other people will think you have a decent , or mediocre hand, and bet. Then raise them. If you know you have won, theres a technique called the "check-raise". You check, let them make a bet, and then raise them. This means that even if they fold, you nabbed some more money by taking what they bet.


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