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    #5925694 - 08/02/06 02:47 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

was browsing ebay for some grow shit, heres what I found.

http://cgi.ebay.com/25-Organic-Fertilize...0QQcmdZViewItem

anyone used it? would it work?


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Re: how bout this? [Re: Leanin]
    #5925756 - 08/02/06 03:06 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I see no reason why field aged, dried and shredded horse poo wouldn't work.


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Re: how bout this? [Re: monstermitch]
    #5925910 - 08/02/06 04:07 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Wow. I just bought some of that last week, should be here tomorrow. I'll let ya know how well it works out. The guy seems like an ok guy...he emailed me and said there would be a delay in shipping because of T-storms and high humidity in his area last week, said his poo wasn't drying out the way he liked it, and as compensation for the delay he refunded my $$ back to my Paypal acct. minus shipping.

And before any of you ask, no, I don't work for the guy, no, he's not suckin' my cock, nor I his. I just think $26.55 delivered (in 3 days) for 25 lbs of hpoo is a damn good deal!!! Beats the hell out of 5 lbs less for $60.75 delivered in a couple weeks, or $82.67 to get it in 3 days. I know my math skills aren't what they once were, but it seems like a much better deal than the route I was going before.

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Re: how bout this? [Re: ComfortablyStond]
    #5925943 - 08/02/06 04:16 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I have never once been turned down when I knock on a door to a house with horses out back, shovel and bag in hand, and ask for manure for my garden. They always treat me like a hero for getting rid of it for them. Last week, the guy even came out while I was shoveling and handed me a cold beer. Get the dried, field aged nuggets that easily break apart in your hands. It takes about five minutes to fill a bag that will make dozens of trays, and it's free. Well, I say free. $3+ a gallon for the gas to get there sucks. Better fill two bags to make the trip pay off.
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Re: how bout this? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #5925976 - 08/02/06 04:28 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Holy crap thats an awesome deal. I'm lucky enough to know 2 girls who work at a horse farm who're more than happy to let me get as much manure as I want. Still though, 9 dollars for 25 lbs of manure that I don't have to collect, drive back and forth to, or leech? That's a deal for the convenience.


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Re: how bout this? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #5926016 - 08/02/06 04:44 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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I have never once been turned down when I knock on a door to a house with horses out back, shovel and bag in hand, and ask for manure for my garden. They always treat me like a hero for getting rid of it for them.




for farms it's a waste product that they'd normaly have to pay to dispose of, just
like any other manure, I see ads frequently in the state Agriculture paper asking
people to come get it, checking some of the farm forums can yeild people in any
area that want it gone


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Re: how bout this? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #5926040 - 08/02/06 04:53 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

> I just think $26.55 delivered (in 3 days) for 25 lbs of hpoo is a damn good deal!!!

Considering you can get rye locally for less than that I don't think it's a very good deal.

And the best thing about rye is that you're not working with SHIT. And you don't have to eat something grown in SHIT. And there's no chance of eating SHIT with your medicinal mushrooms.


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Re: how bout this? [Re: ComfortablyStond]
    #5926043 - 08/02/06 04:53 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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Wow. I just bought some of that last week, should be here tomorrow. I'll let ya know how well it works out. The guy seems like an ok guy...he emailed me and said there would be a delay in shipping because of T-storms and high humidity in his area last week, said his poo wasn't drying out the way he liked it, and as compensation for the delay he refunded my $$ back to my Paypal acct. minus shipping.

And before any of you ask, no, I don't work for the guy, no, he's not suckin' my cock, nor I his. I just think $26.55 delivered (in 3 days) for 25 lbs of hpoo is a damn good deal!!! Beats the hell out of 5 lbs less for $60.75 delivered in a couple weeks, or $82.67 to get it in 3 days. I know my math skills aren't what they once were, but it seems like a much better deal than the route I was going before.

Peace.




for sure man, let me know the quality of this stuff.


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Re: how bout this? [Re: fastfred]
    #5926056 - 08/02/06 04:56 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

You do realize that every peice of fruit, vegetable, etc that you eat has been grown in corpses and shit, right? You realize every time you step on grass, you're stepping on corpses and shit, right? It all breaks down into soil eventually. Just because it came out of a horse's bum doesn't change that fact. If you look at dried horse manure you couldn't even tell what it was if its leeched properly. It looks like fluffy straw and fibers.

If you have a hard time getting passed the fact that fertilizer is necessary, then i don't think any form of cultivation would be for you.


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Re: how bout this? [Re: wiggles]
    #5926073 - 08/02/06 05:04 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Having shit spread on a field and tilled in, which then decomposes over the entire growing season before the fruit, vegetable, or etc. is produced well above the soil is not the same as eating something that directly grew out of shit and reached a max height of just a few inches over pure shit.

But hey if you like to eat bits of shit and food products that have been in direct contact with shit then more power to you.

I would think that most people would rather grow on a healthy substrate that produces better and even apparently costs less.

Have fun easting shit and food products that have been in direct contact with shit though if that's your thing.


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Re: how bout this? [Re: fastfred]
    #5926113 - 08/02/06 05:14 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

So you'd prefer your shit to be aged like a fine wine or cheese before you chance eating it? lol

You've never before eaten commercially grown mushrooms before either I hope. I used to live near a bunch of mushrooms farms. They used rotten straw, horse manure, calcium, lime, and uric acid for their substrate. The stuff smelled godawful for miles around. But it never once has stopped me from buying a carton of button mushrooms, or from eating mushroom soup.

Either way, more power to you if you dislike it. More, more potent mush for us :-P


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Re: how bout this? [Re: fastfred]
    #5926261 - 08/02/06 06:01 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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> I just think $26.55 delivered (in 3 days) for 25 lbs of hpoo is a damn good deal!!!

Considering you can get rye locally for less than that I don't think it's a very good deal.

And the best thing about rye is that you're not working with SHIT. And you don't have to eat something grown in SHIT. And there's no chance of eating SHIT with your medicinal mushrooms.


-FF




Manure substrates in no way compare to rye which is a spawn material.

People need to realize this guy is a troll who knows absolutely nothing about growing mushrooms, which he makes painfully obvious with his silly daily rants against proper techniques, and those of us who would help the communtity with our knowledge. Don't let his bad attitude and ignorance get in the way of your wish to learn mycology. Every mycologist from Paul Stamets to Alexander Smith know the benefits of manure as a bulk substrate, and virtually every agaricus farm in the world uses horse manure as the primary ingredient.
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Re: how bout this? [Re: wiggles]
    #5926285 - 08/02/06 06:09 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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If you have a hard time getting passed the fact that fertilizer is necessary




for mushrooms, no, for plants not really, compost, yes and thats what the degrading poo becomes


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Re: how bout this? [Re: fastfred]
    #5926300 - 08/02/06 06:15 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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Having shit spread on a field and tilled in, which then decomposes over the entire growing season before the fruit, vegetable, or etc. is produced well above the soil is not the same as eating something that directly grew out of shit and reached a max height of just a few inches over pure shit.

But hey if you like to eat bits of shit and food products that have been in direct contact with shit then more power to you.

I would think that most people would rather grow on a healthy substrate that produces better and even apparently costs less.

Have fun easting shit and food products that have been in direct contact with shit though if that's your thing.







enough of this shit... compost is compost, composted horse shit is again,
compost, the fruits of trees and fungus both make use of the nutes, I used my
garden compost for growing mushrooms on many occasions and it's all done above ground

stop being so condecending to the other members of this board, please


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Re: how bout this? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #5926304 - 08/02/06 06:16 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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If you have a hard time getting passed the fact that fertilizer is necessary




for mushrooms, no, for plants not really, compost, yes and thats what the degrading poo becomes




It isn't abesolutely necessary, but I've yet to see a mushroom farm that doesn't use horse manure, or any large farm that doesn't use manure regularly throughout multiple stages of both fungal and plant life. They may not be necessary, but without them I think there'd be a whole lot less to eat. Just sayin


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Re: how bout this? [Re: wiggles]
    #5926310 - 08/02/06 06:19 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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They used rotten straw, horse manure, calcium, lime, and uric acid for their substrate. P




I've used my garden compost before, it consisted of 50% horse manure and the other
50% was a mixture of grain silage, vegetables, grass (hay) and leaves, things grew
beautifuly when it was composted well, it also had the texture of good soil


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Re: how bout this? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #5926318 - 08/02/06 06:21 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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> I just think $26.55 delivered (in 3 days) for 25 lbs of hpoo is a damn good deal!!!

Considering you can get rye locally for less than that I don't think it's a very good deal.

And the best thing about rye is that you're not working with SHIT. And you don't have to eat something grown in SHIT. And there's no chance of eating SHIT with your medicinal mushrooms.


-FF




Manure substrates in no way compare to rye which is a spawn material.

People need to realize this guy is a troll who knows absolutely nothing about growing mushrooms, which he makes painfully obvious with his silly daily rants against proper techniques, and those of us who would help the communtity with our knowledge. Don't let his bad attitude and ignorance get in the way of your wish to learn mycology. Every mycologist from Paul Stamets to Alexander Smith know the benefits of manure as a bulk substrate, and virtually every agaricus farm in the world uses horse manure as the primary ingredient.
RR






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Re: how bout this? [Re: wiggles]
    #5926327 - 08/02/06 06:24 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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They may not be necessary, but without them I think there'd be a whole lot less to eat. Just sayin




the horse poo is much more efficient as a bulk substrate than most others, thats
why it's used in commercial applications, I've done well with grains alone but 10x
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Re: how bout this? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #5926328 - 08/02/06 06:24 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I believe you. I'm just stating what they used to use at the mushroom farm by my old home in Reading PA, and from what I saw on Dirty Jobs, similar recipies are used elsewhere. We took a school field trip but half the kids couldn't make it in because of the smell. Uric acid reeks like nothing I think I've ever experienced, and because of the composition the piles of substrate are constantly warm inside... i can't imagine how it must be now during the summer.


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Re: how bout this? [Re: wiggles]
    #5926344 - 08/02/06 06:28 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

damn where is this thread going lol

btw...im gettin some boomerz tonight hahaahah


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