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Timberdoodler
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Dangerous Hunt
#5925383 - 08/02/06 01:07 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Warning: I accidently listed this post as one about EDIBLES, instead of the correct ID request. This mushroom may not be edible! 
Two days ago, I was going to go shrooming but I opted to be lazy, give it a break, and stay in the air conditioning. That day, two ferocious pitbulls chased a few home owners around my favorite hunting spot into their homes, chewing at the door, trying to attack.
I could've just seen it. Me, 400 yards from the nearest house, in my favorite mushroom patch, confronted by two snarling pitbulls. That would've been a long run!
The dogs were on my grandparents property, and were said to be in a frenzy. A neighbor from down the road called to warn about them chewing at his doors, trying to claw and bite their way through his door!
In any case...I managed to get out yesterday evening for a little bit, with the understanding that the dogs had finally been captured by their owner.
Here is one of yesterdays finds that I need an ID for:

habitat - mixed hardwoods and conifers (mostly maple, oak, white pine) cap - smooth, droopy, conical, brown, with dark chocolate brown edging. stem - long, thin, stringy, relatively unstable spore print - dark reddish brown, like dark clay gills, attached:

scent - strong, the classic shroomy scent location - central Pennsylvania
I found two of these a few yards from a patch of Old Man of the Woods and thought they were pretty interesting. Any thoughts?
Edited by Timberdoodler (08/02/06 01:31 PM)
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psiclops
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I'm thinking conocybe. Odd that they were growing from wood chips. Those look like Conocybe lactea. It must be something else, but everything except the habitat matches.
They are probably toxic, whatever they are.
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Timberdoodler
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Re: Dangerous Hunt [Re: psiclops]
#5925462 - 08/02/06 01:37 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Did I imply they were growing from woodchips unknowingly? If so, I apologize. The trees mentioned were just the trees growing around the area...the mushrooms themselves sprouted from the soil.
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CureCat
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Re: Dangerous Hunt [Re: psiclops]
#5925504 - 08/02/06 01:56 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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What? How in the world do those look like Conocybe lactea???
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Timberdoodler
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Re: Dangerous Hunt [Re: CureCat]
#5925542 - 08/02/06 02:07 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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The photos of Conocybe lactea I've seen don't show a dark border around the rim of the cap at all, whereas these mushrooms do.
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psiclops
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Re: Dangerous Hunt [Re: CureCat]
#5925561 - 08/02/06 02:13 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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And they are a bit meaty to be Conocybe lactea, I suppose.
But they DO look very similar. I jumped the gun, on that one.
Everything else in the world is how they look like Conocybe lactea.
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Montanahunter420
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Cap is not bell shaped enough to be cocybe lactea and the print doesn't match either. Thanks for the suggestion psiclops I know what that mushroom growing in my back yard is now. I wasn't really interested in it but it's nice to know. Weird how people make suggestions for an id then I find out the mushroom I couldn't Id is the mushroom they suggested for a differnent post.
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CureCat
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I'd say perhaps Inocybe or Cortinarius.
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CureCat
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Re: Dangerous Hunt [Re: CureCat]
#5925742 - 08/02/06 02:59 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Conocybe lactea

Inocybe pisciodora

Inocybe godeyi

Cortinarius cinnamomeus

Cortinarius duracinus
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ToxicMan
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I'm with Inocybe or Cortinarius.
Both genera are difficult to identify mushrooms to species in, especially Cortinarius.
Happy mushrooming!
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CureCat
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Re: Dangerous Hunt [Re: ToxicMan]
#5925787 - 08/02/06 03:16 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yes, I was not suggesting that the above pictured species represented the mushroom in question, I was simply giving examples of similar looking specimens within each genus. I would not attempt to pin point a specific species.
Both Cortinarius and Inocybe have poisonous species within the genus, so don't consider them for the table.
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They also look like they could belong in the genus nolanea, another genus that is hard to identify to species. The spore print is a little dark for nolanea, but the mushroom looks like it belongs in that genera, conical cap, somewhat fragile stem, attatched pinkish gills.
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psiclops
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Re: Dangerous Hunt [Re: falcon]
#5926021 - 08/02/06 04:46 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Man I feel stupid. I'm having a hard time finding mushrooms with rust-colored spores.
I'd like to redeem myself.
Could it possibly be Pseudohydnum gelatinosum? j/j.
Edited by psiclops (08/02/06 05:11 PM)
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xmush
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Re: Dangerous Hunt [Re: psiclops]
#5926030 - 08/02/06 04:50 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Don't take it hard. There's so many of these not so little brown mushrooms that look similar. It can be tough.
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Timberdoodler
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Re: Dangerous Hunt [Re: ToxicMan]
#5926277 - 08/02/06 06:07 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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From pictures alone, the closest resemblance goes to Cortinarius. I notice they all have that dark chocolate border.
Also - someone suggested that this mushroom had pink gills, and it doesn't. I would describe the gill color as more light reddish brown.
Here's another photograph of it. I still have these mushrooms if I need to do anything else to it to help find an ID:
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ToxicMan
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If it's a Cortinarius, then it's in subgenus Telamonia, the subgenus primarily responsible for Cortinarius being so hard to identify to species.
It also has a resemblance to Inocybe albodisca, although I don't think it's that species. Still the resemblance is enough to make me not discount that genus either.
If the spores are smooth, then it's an Inocybe. If they're warted, it could be either genus.
Happy mushrooming!
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