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Afroshroomerican
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Today's Rap Music
#5923964 - 08/02/06 12:29 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Isn't it just awful?
My roommate plays it all the damn time and it's all about the same shit "I got more Gs than U nigga" "Nigga I'm the fucking man" "Shit niggas I got mad bitches"
And to top it off none of them even make the music they "rap" to.
I hope it's just a latest craze and dies out soon.
I hate it when my friends go "Why don't you like black music if you're black" and that shit ain't black music
Fuck gimme some soul/R&B/Rock (the real talented black people) over this shit.
Oh and this rant is inspired by my roomie who's playin Lil Jon now 
Time to go listen to some Pink Floyd and Donny Hathaway to get this shit out my head.
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There's some good underground stuff out there. Mos Def, Jurassic 5, Talib Kweli. Of course, some of that stuff can get too afrocentric sometimes. But there is some good stuff. There's also some great hip hop/trip hop dj's out there, like DJ Shadow, DJ Spooky, or DJ Krush.
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Afroshroomerican
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Re: Today's Rap Music [Re: Silversoul]
#5924034 - 08/02/06 12:45 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yes you are right. Those guys are talented.
Sorry if I was to broad. I meant Gangsta Rap.
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whitey13
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I can see where you're coming from, but I love to drive up to the McDonald's window to get my food and turn up my stereo to:
"Ol' faggot, you better watch your mouth Fo' I be in front yo' house, when yo' ass come out Ol' bitch ass, hold another nigga dick ass, BITCH ASS, NIGGA!
What's Happenin by Ying Yang Twinz. Peace
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king_cobra
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not all gangsta rap is bad..
andre nickatina, brotha lynch, xraided, bone thugs etc are all decent.
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Re: Today's Rap Music [Re: king_cobra]
#5924091 - 08/02/06 12:58 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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bone thugs? last cd that was good was back when 2pac and biggie were around....when they died rap did with them....eminem was alright during his 2pac faze...but now all he fuckin raps about is himself...who gives afuck about him and his daughter or his wife he keeps breakin up with....its all about him now.
i havn't even bought a rap cd since like 1997 or 1998.
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king_cobra
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what's wrong with bone thugs? e. 1999 eternal is a classic..
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Re: Today's Rap Music [Re: king_cobra]
#5924117 - 08/02/06 01:05 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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i dunno i just know i heard one of there newer albums...like back then yah know...and thought it was total crap and havn't even listened to anything afterwords.
cann't remember what alubum it was so don't ask
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king_cobra
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e.1999 eternal came out in '95(i think.. ) i wouldn't touch anything that came out after that. seem's like most rappers put out a few good albums when they first come out, then turn to shit. hip hop, on the otherhand...
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Dead Prez Blackalicious <----!!!! MF Doom Del the Funkee Homosapien J5 Lifesavas One Be Lo Sage Francis OutKast Saul Williams The Shapeshifters Gym Class Heroes The Streets Busdriver Mos Def Damian Marley Cee-Lo Green
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SirTripAlot
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Re: Today's Rap Music [Re: plexus]
#5924587 - 08/02/06 06:50 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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In the late eighties to the mid 90's, rap was unique and from the street.
(I remember hiding Public Enemy tapes under my bed so my mom would not find them! ) In my opinion, rappers back then had real lyrical skill.
But just like any good thing, it gets commercialized and lost. How many "rock" and "metal" records out there suck ass? Need I say Metalica's "Saint Anger"......????
Personally I like Busta Rhymes But you are right, for the most part, every new rap album looks the same, has the same back beat, and is fucking annoying!
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barto
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check out devin the dude
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TheCow
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Ha you heard the new Busta Rhymes song? That shit is so horrible I cant imagine what he was thinking with that shit. He cant flow any more either, although I imagine hes just trying to fit in with today's mainstream rappers who have no lyrical talent.
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triple_
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Re: Today's Rap Music [Re: TheCow]
#5926773 - 08/02/06 08:32 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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For decent gangsta rap, you gotta go back to the mid 90s or so all the way back to the 80s when NWA, old 2pac and old Snoop were at their best.
These days, the only decent artists in hiphop seem to be more underground; Immortal Technique, Common, The Roots etc...*anything* mainstream today is complete fucking shit, except for some Kanye West songs.
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Re: Today's Rap Music [Re: triple_]
#5927207 - 08/02/06 10:28 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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try RJD2 or Edan, Edan is fuckin amazing.
"and all the real heads screamin' FUCK HIP HOP, til all this mediocre bullshit stops!" - RJD2
"I pull blisters off the lips of mc's who be rappin too much" - edan
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Re: Today's Rap Music [Re: CptnGarden]
#5927673 - 08/03/06 02:05 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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fuckin a i like some GOOD rap: wu tang - 36 chambers 2pac - strictly 4 my n.i.g.g.a.z and 2pacalypse now bone thugs - creepin on a come up nwa - niggaz for life krs one de la soul the fugees the roots beastie boys there's some good shit out there...well there used to be. fuck all that 3-6 mafia, paul wall, mike jones bullshit, though.
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The only hip hop groups I really like are Blackalicious, Lyrics Born/Latyrx, Pharcyde, A Tryibe Called Quest, The Hieroglyphics, and anything with Del the Funkee Homosapien.
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plexus
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soul_kitchen said: The only hip hop groups I really like are Blackalicious, Lyrics Born/Latyrx, Pharcyde, A Tryibe Called Quest, The Hieroglyphics, and anything with Del the Funkee Homosapien.
Thats what im talking about. If you like those artists, check out MF Doom, J5, Lifesavas, One Be Lo,Saul Williams, and Black Star
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Re: Today's Rap Music [Re: plexus]
#5931046 - 08/04/06 10:44 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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I agree with you Afroshroomerican, except I think Lil' John is kinda fun now and then. But I don't take him seriously.
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SirTripAlot said: But just like any good thing, it gets commercialized and lost. How many "rock" and "metal" records out there suck ass? Need I say Metalica's "Saint Anger"......????
Metal is quite healthy right now, very talented, dynamic, melodic, and interesting. The commercialized stuff never overtakes the real stuff, the real stuff is always ahead of the game. You focus too much on the specific form that they present at one time, and then you lose them. The commercial shit is always outdated. It seems common for musikk to go to Scandanavia to develop itself further. 
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gema
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right now I'm digging:
Rob Sonic Beans Mr. Lif Louis Logic Ghetto Boys Eric B and Rakim Airborne Audio
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musicturkey
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Re: Today's Rap Music [Re: plexus]
#5932510 - 08/04/06 07:35 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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plexus said: Dead Prez Blackalicious <----!!!! MF Doom Del the Funkee Homosapien J5 Lifesavas One Be Lo Sage Francis OutKast Saul Williams The Shapeshifters Gym Class Heroes The Streets Busdriver Mos Def Damian Marley Cee-Lo Green
Fuck yea man, he has all the best right up there
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PsiTripper

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yeah, today's rap is just horrible compared to the 90's. only rap i listen to now is outkast and the roots. i'm kinda worried that outkast might be going the wrong way though. both have new albums due out this month, hoping they are good.
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The_Red_Crayon
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I agree late 80's and mid 90's rap is the best. That was the golden age of rap. Im gonna have to bust out some NWA or some Public Enemy.
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550c
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Gnarles Barkley is pretty good although its not gangsta rap at all.
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kotik
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Re: Today's Rap Music [Re: 550c]
#5943264 - 08/08/06 05:08 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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sound scientists are good. i swear
http://myspace.com/soundscientists
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TheCow
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Re: Today's Rap Music [Re: kotik]
#5944236 - 08/08/06 01:45 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Did your group just play at Rock the Bells in San Bernadino? Or maybe that was Self-Scienfitic, I was a little too high
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kotik
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Re: Today's Rap Music [Re: TheCow]
#5944389 - 08/08/06 02:58 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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nope, that was self-scientific.. last show we did was in Orlando, at the Wu-Tang reunion tour.
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Re: Today's Rap Music [Re: kotik]
#5944433 - 08/08/06 03:07 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ah nice. Did you get to chill with wu-tang? Their show at rock the bells was fucking amazing
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Banez
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Re: Today's Rap Music [Re: TheCow]
#5945290 - 08/08/06 07:12 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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by far the best rapper currently is T.I.. hands down.. no one can agrue that.. period.. the king and urban legend are both amazing albums
im mainly into rock but heres my rap collection:
dre's the chronic d12 damien marley obie trice nappy roots ludacris T.I 2 Pac Tech9
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Dobie
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Re: Today's Rap Music [Re: Banez]
#5946389 - 08/09/06 01:32 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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i didnt really like T.I.'s new cd trap muzik was a fuckin classic though reminds me of need for speed
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Dobie
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Re: Today's Rap Music [Re: Dobie]
#5946431 - 08/09/06 01:55 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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check out jedi mind tricks
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Re: Today's Rap Music [Re: CptnGarden]
#5946800 - 08/09/06 08:42 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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ShroomieOfDoomie said: try RJD2 or Edan, Edan is fuckin amazing.
"and all the real heads screamin' FUCK HIP HOP, til all this mediocre bullshit stops!" - RJD2
"I pull blisters off the lips of mc's who be rappin too much" - edan
amen. I got a copied rjd2 cd off my mate, and I haven't stoped playing it. that track you quoted is probably one of the best on the album (although the intro is good too ;D)
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SunshineDaydream said: fuck all that 3-6 mafia, paul wall, mike jones bullshit, though.
new 3-6 is pretty mainstream and lame i agree but the old shit is off the heezy for sheezy
jus a few good artists: bushwick bill gheto boys twista and my personal favorite UGK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ugk-one day your here ugk-pocket full of stones ugk-front back and side to side ugk-playaz from the south
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Re: Today's Rap Music [Re: mungojerry]
#5950722 - 08/10/06 02:07 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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ugk ridin dirty is a damn good cd
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Yeah, I think we all agree that there are different types of "rap" music. Afro is obviously referring to mainstream rap, hot 97 bullshit, 24" rims, guns, bitches in bikinis, etc. This can be fun music in a club, but lacks substance. Then there is gangsta rap, which has obtained popularity/notariety for it's lyrics, often obscene. There are some good gangsta rap albums, the classics like Chronic and E. 1999, but not too many strong artists with careers. This brings us to hip-hop. This is a very loaded word, which to many refers to an entire culture that includes breakdancing, graffiti, mc'ing, dj'ing, and damn I forget the other one. ( ) However, to me and many folks, it is the label we put onto rap music that is not mainstream, ie. "underground". Although I see in this thread people referring to The Roots and Common as underground, nah I don't think so... Underground hip hop is also often referred to as conscious hip hop, due to the lyrical content. Many artists that have been mentioned in this thread share a positivity in their music, combining their mc skills with a sense of responsibility. One of the best examples of conscious hip hop is Blackalicious. Everyone should listen to Blackalicious, I suggest Blazing Arrow for a starter album. Anyway, just thought I would ramble on in a academic style about music that has really helped me through the last few years. I use to hate rap music, because I thought it was all bitches and hos, gats and rims. But when a friend turned me onto Blackalicious and many others conscious artists, I realized what an awesomely honest art form it is. And the beats are head-noddin, I love me some straight up, hip hop beats... This is where I got into DJ Shadow, RJD2, etc, because of the love of the music behind the skillful lyrics. Oh, man, I love hip-hop and am glad to see that fellow Shroomerites do to. I must now brag abour seeing Lyrics Born, Common, and Blackalicious each perform complete sets all in the same tent on the same night this year at Bonnaroo. What a night!
Oh, and please check out Aesop Rock, what a lyrical wizard!
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SirTripAlot said: In the late eighties to the mid 90's, rap was unique and from the street.
(I remember hiding Public Enemy tapes under my bed so my mom would not find them! ) In my opinion, rappers back then had real lyrical skill.
But just like any good thing, it gets commercialized and lost. How many "rock" and "metal" records out there suck ass? Need I say Metalica's "Saint Anger"......????
Personally I like Busta Rhymes But you are right, for the most part, every new rap album looks the same, has the same back beat, and is fucking annoying!
1988 was the shit!!!!!!!!!!!!
yea Cunninlynguists and Masta Ace-seasons a song that perfectly discribes the ughh/rap crisis
but for me im fine listening to innovators
edan (beauty and the beat is the shit dope, hip hop over rock samples) def jux (mr lif mo mega is doing it for me now)
vast aire (a emcee that is abstract but still can rock a freestyle battle)
of course aesop rock- labor days being my favorite (still deciphering lyrics)
illogic (the song sacrifice deserves a listen from anybody with a open mind)
MF DOOM (biggup niggas (dont worry im black) that flow intelligent but still have their ear to the street
right now im partial to jazzy hiphop
3582 situational ethics (the song late night is dangerously funky)
dudley perkins and j rawls- its the dank and jammy show (good vibe on the album)
but if you ever get discouraged about rap throw on nas-1 love or it aint hard to tell
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Re: Today's Rap Music [Re: kotik]
#5953022 - 08/11/06 04:07 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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damn kotik! im really diggin the sound of your group!
is there a cd out yet? id glady support.
if you ever make it up to cleveland be sure to let me know!
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