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    #5922503 - 08/01/06 05:20 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I was thinking today. Earlier this year I decided to stop defending my opinions in any real way. This was an attempt to make my powers of perception more fluid by not tieing myself down to one state of awareness by defending it. I saw that refusing to defend my opinions to some degree was an energy saving maneuver as well, but this is just a small first step. I have now declined to stop defending my self image. I have let this self image thing be in control for too long. While I have minimized it a bit over the years, I find that I have really modified it only...not killed it. I realized today that way too much of my self image...most of it in fact....is based on what other people perceive...my cultural programming....not on what I perceive. So, in the future I am deciding to not defend any issue regarding my self image. I discovered that my whole perspective on being a husband and parent...and a person, and what those roles comprise, is part of a self image based on what I am expected to be by the nameless masses. My views on relationships are definitely pure self image. They are not my opinions, but the opinions of others. This was instilled in me as a child. I don't see the answer in rejecting this cultural programming, but in merely disregarding it as an invalid part of myself. I do not want to be safe. I want my whole life to be an adventure. The way of adventure is not in being tied down to certain points of perception. I have concluded that by understanding that this programming is not of my choosing at all, it is much easier to drop it from my inventory. You see my whole standpoint on cultural programming was (unconsciously) based on the fact that I had been given a chance to agree to these things, so I was defending what I thought to be my "self", but in fact I was never given a choice. I am going to try and make a new set of choices based on what I like, and on what I enjoy. I think that I can sense the matrix, but one red pill is not going to do it. I need a new red pill for every second of awareness that I experience...I have to give myself a constant stream of them...to be aware every second of every day.


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Re: Our Cultural Programming [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #5922615 - 08/01/06 05:56 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Sounds about true. Personal history.

so I was defending what I thought to be my "self",

"Wake up! You can't remember who it was. Had this dream stopped"

"I tell you this. No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn."

and my new favorite.

"There is always more to everything".


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Re: Our Cultural Programming [Re: Icelander]
    #5922628 - 08/01/06 05:59 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Well how about:

"Reaching your head with the cold, sudden fury of a divine messenger.
Let me tell you about heartache and the loss of god,
Wandering, wandering in hopeless night.
Out here in the perimeter there are no stars,
Out here we is stoned
Immaculate."


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Re: Our Cultural Programming [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #5922638 - 08/01/06 06:03 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah, that too.

It's true enough for me that becoming aware of programs in the bio-computer is worthwhile. Most do not serve the self.


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

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Re: Our Cultural Programming [Re: Icelander]
    #5922648 - 08/01/06 06:06 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Well, I know this should have been obvious to me, BUT I was defending something that I thought that I had taken responsibility for....but this is just garbage someone else thought of. Maybe some of it makes sense, but why should it apply to me? I want to identify my own desires and write my own programs.


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Re: Our Cultural Programming [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #5922701 - 08/01/06 06:25 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

this sounds great.


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Re: Our Cultural Programming [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #5922775 - 08/01/06 06:42 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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Huehuecoyotl said:
Well, I know this should have been obvious to me, BUT I was defending something that I thought that I had taken responsibility for....but this is just garbage someone else thought of. Maybe some of it makes sense, but why should it apply to me? I want to identify my own desires and write my own programs.




Doing this IMO entails looking into our most intimate relationships. This means our parents first and for most. They are the initial programmers and had the most influence on programming culture and their personal programs (fears mostly). These are usually the hardest to come to terms with as we "need" to defend our blood relationships or all is lost. Often when we see the problems ourselves and our siblings developed in life we think that it just happened or it's some genetic thing when IMO, in reality it's those primary programs from mater and pater that are at the root of all the misery. There are powerful ways we tend to forget or block this awareness from our conscious awareness and blindly defend our "worst enemies" and paint a benign face on the brutality inflicted on our innocence and freedom.

This cannot be done as a condemnation as that keeps one inside the cultural trap. It has to be done as a complete acknowledgement of what has actually transpired and brought into full awareness.


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
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Re: Our Cultural Programming [Re: Icelander]
    #5922841 - 08/01/06 07:00 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I agree with much of this, but this hits close to home (self image of course) because parent is a role I have and am playing ...and I have definitely and unwittingly...instilled many of these same programs that I was conditioned with myself in my kids. I do think that to see parents as the "worst enemy" is backward. The system that programmed them is the enemy. I believe in evaluating relationships based on their worth...not rendering blanket judgments. My children must take responsibility for their own awakening, not blame me for impeding them when I was asleep myself. There is no doubt that our parents are the primary socializers, but rendering moral judgements against them is just as impeding as accepting the programming. Except for this small caveat I accept what you have said. I may be reading your wording wrong, but "worst enemy" speaks of resentment and negative emotion. Once again...freedom is being defined as not being controlled by these programs either in the positive or the negative.


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Re: Our Cultural Programming [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #5922859 - 08/01/06 07:10 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

As in "first enemy of a man of knowledge" That was not resentment, that was plainly put. Their fear based programming whether original or not was an enemy of our wholeness. I knew that phrasing would trigger some defence and was my coyote nature at work. :tongue2:


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Re: Our Cultural Programming [Re: Icelander]
    #5922888 - 08/01/06 07:23 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

or was it your personal history wearing the coyote skin...


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Re: Our Cultural Programming [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #5922895 - 08/01/06 07:25 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

nope


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Re: Our Cultural Programming [Re: Icelander]
    #5923000 - 08/01/06 08:02 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

My personal history stalks me nearly as much as I stalk it...I know the same to be true of you. That is why I asked.


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Re: Our Cultural Programming [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #5926491 - 08/02/06 07:11 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Kick each others asses! :evil:

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Re: Our Cultural Programming [Re: fireworks_god]
    #5926497 - 08/02/06 07:13 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

That's what friends are for. :grin: :heart:


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Re: Our Cultural Programming [Re: Icelander]
    #5926510 - 08/02/06 07:15 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I am going to go do some cleaning. :wink:

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Re: Our Cultural Programming [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #5926528 - 08/02/06 07:19 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

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My personal history stalks me nearly as much as I stalk it...I know the same to be true of you. That is why I asked.




This reminds me of a line from a movie (guess). "We may be done with the past, but the past isn't done with us".

I have had resentment toward the actions of my parents. It was most likely a necessary thing for a time. I was carrying an a lode of sadness and anger. In the end though I needed to do exactly what I discribed. I don't know if forgiveness is the right word. Maybe acceptance is more correct. I accept that my parents did the best they could for me. I also accept that their best wasn't any good. In the end I wished them well on their journey and I let go of them as much as I am able.


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Re: Our Cultural Programming [Re: fireworks_god]
    #5926533 - 08/02/06 07:20 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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I am going to go do some cleaning. :wink:

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I notice that you do a lot of cleaning. I think that is a good trait.  :thumbup:


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    #5926556 - 08/02/06 07:26 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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I notice that you do a lot of cleaning. I think that is a good trait.  :thumbup:




If your range of data was more encompassing, you would see that it couldn't be further from the truth. :lol: I'd take pictures but that would be too embarassing.

Posting here either keeps me from doing basic cleaning or inspires me to do so. :smirk:

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Re: Our Cultural Programming [Re: fireworks_god]
    #5926569 - 08/02/06 07:29 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Well I still love you. :heart:


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Re: Our Cultural Programming [Re: Icelander]
    #5926749 - 08/02/06 08:23 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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Well I still love you. :heart:




Encouraging me, eh? :grin:

I just cleaned my computer room, so that is a start. I might as well bring meaningful purpose into the room that I spend the most time. :rolleyes:

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