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Bluntman

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Wont somebody think of the children!?!?
#5921934 - 08/01/06 01:32 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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All the talk of government propaganda and how the government brainwashes society that goes on here is just as damaging to a young kid (12,13,14 yr olds) as the propaganda itself.
There is already an overwhelming feeling in middle schools and high schools that drugs are cool and the health classes and the horror stories are all exaggerated. Believe it or not, teenagers do feel invincible.
When a young kid wanders onto this site and its message board (and you've all noticed that they do) and reads about drug users discrediting the anti-drug campaigns he can easily become convinced that drug use is nothing to be cautious about.
Mushrooms, LSD, cocaine and other drugs discussed here...these drugs often have very serious effects/consequences that a young person is not mentally equipped to handle. I think the Shroomery and its members have a responsibility to make sure that point is not lost.
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Re: Wont somebody think of the children!?!? [Re: DellComputers]
#5922015 - 08/01/06 02:14 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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If the govt would stop with the misinformation then the children could be accurately educated about the dangers. But when you say things like "just say no" that doesn't help at all. The schools need to teach kids how to handle side effects and what they are, without exaggeration.
And most importantly, locking people in jail for using these substances does not help to solve the problem at all. People and kids realize this. So how are you suppose to get the kids to believe what you say when the whole issue is bathed in lies and injustice?
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Re: Wont somebody think of the children!?!? [Re: RosettaStoned]
#5922044 - 08/01/06 02:29 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Absolutely, its the governments job to educate the public honestly.
I'm just making the point that kid's already see the anti-drug curriculum as BS, they pick up information from everywhere- the Shroomery shouldn't be an accomplice to the drug problem.
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Re: Wont somebody think of the children!?!? [Re: DellComputers]
#5922243 - 08/01/06 03:32 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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I personally don't see the shroomery as a part of the problem at all. Most kids who do run into problems with drug use do so by older brothers and classmates imo. It's not like reading this site will give you access to illegal substances nor is it the shroomery's fault that the anti-drug propaganda is not working on kids. And lets not forget, who's job is it to monitor what kids read on the internet? So if a minor is reading this site then that is the fault of the parent. Sounds to me like you should be going to a web site about parenting and remind them to monitor what their kids read on the net.
I would also wager the greatest danger to kids from all the drugs in the world would be the possibility of alcohol overdose.
Also I wonder, could their be a touch of sarcasm in your post? If so, sorry that I missed it sometimes it's hard to see in the written word. Alot of people on here seem to like to play devil's advocate sometimes
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phungi
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Re: Wont somebody think of the children!?!? [Re: RosettaStoned]
#5928912 - 08/03/06 03:25 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Children dont have the mental/emotional capacity to process a drug experience, thusly children (including teenagers) should certianly abstain from drugs. However, there are many things in society that are beyond a childs ability to cope with that they are exposed to every day. Example: War in the news, sex, domestic violence, alcohol, racism.
Theres just a few examples, what I'm saying is, of course children should not be using drugs, and adults certianly should not be glorifying drug use to kids, we have a responsibility to tell them the TRUTH about everything. ie, We want our kids to have a healthy sex life WHEN THEY ARE ADULTS. So we tell them the truth about sex, and that it is must not be experienced until one is physically and emotionally mature. Same with drugs in my opinion. I want my kids to have a healthy relationship with drugs, and I don't mean that i expect my kids to use drugs but drugs will always be with us they are a "fact of life" weather the prohibitionists like it or not, so anyway I want my kids to be armed to the teeth with FACTS & THE TRUTH. So that when it does come up (and it will) they will KNOW whats up, they'll be armed with the truth and not a bunch of prohibitionist propaganda.
The message in this country is so fucking mixed up it'll make your head spin, and kids are supposed to be able to read between the lines and its costing lives. When grandma is taking enough valium to knock over a horse, and dads eatin oxycontin for his back, and aunt Suzy has to take 2 prozac before she can get outa bed, and your on so much ridalin your a zombie, all the while the t.v. says "Say no to drugs" and "We're fighting a war on drugs". Its more bullshit than anyone could ever be expected to wade through.
I say thank God for beacons of truth like the Shroomery. Hopfully the kids finding their way onto this board will take what is said here seriously and realize how extremely powerful ALL drugs are.
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Re: Wont somebody think of the children!?!? [Re: phungi]
#5951611 - 08/10/06 06:52 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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that's a good point. the shroomery could stand to throw more disclaimers in.....
i try to. i try to point out the good and bad of my limited experiences, and tend to only advocate very serious spiritual use.
but i think the big damage is that kids don't have real information, so they spread minsiformation like man 1 joint is like 20 cigarettes...
but the reverse is true, they make things up about the safety of drugs, and do them recklessly because they have no legal outlet.
everything that can possibly be, needs to be legal, so that it can be safely integrated into society.
society will always do certain things, and most of them are not inherently wrong or harmful, therefore to thrust a HUGE spectrum of behavior into the shadows is to be asking for extreme trouble.
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