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Trying Salvia...Have Questions
    #5921277 - 08/01/06 09:02 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Hi everyone, I am thinking about trying salvia for the first time and have some questions. What kind should i start with? How do I prepare salvia to smoke it? What  should I use to smoke it? Last but not least, should I mix it with pot or smoke it by it self? Any help would be great,

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Re: Trying Salvia...Have Questions [Re: pokalot]
    #5921371 - 08/01/06 10:07 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

why are you curious about it?
did you go to http://sagewisdom.org yet, they have a users' guide?


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Re: Trying Salvia...Have Questions [Re: redgreenvines]
    #5921374 - 08/01/06 10:10 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

i'd suggest starting with 5x, then working your way up from there, if needed.

no preparation is needed for the extract itself, but you should prepare yourself by reading the website linked by rgv, and also checking out erowid.org


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Re: Trying Salvia...Have Questions [Re: kotik]
    #5921383 - 08/01/06 10:13 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I would suggest starting with leaf but I am sure many people will disagree with me. When you DO smoke it, remember to keep it burning really HOT and take huge rips. Hold it for 20-30 seconds, exhale, and it will hit you fast.


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Re: Trying Salvia...Have Questions [Re: MorphMan]
    #5921462 - 08/01/06 10:54 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

the threashold has to be achieved in 90 seconds
that would be 3 huge tokes of plain leaf held 20 seconds each
or
one of extract

after 90 seconds the initial plateau begins to sink towards baseline. In this way a delayed or slow wave of intoxication may not crest to significant effects, but rapid follow-up (within 90 seconds) will guarantee effect. (SLOW oral absorption requires 50 times as much material to force the slow wave of intoxication up to a threashold)

guaging the intensity in advance is very hard to do.
so do read the user's guide and take the appropriate precautions.


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Re: Trying Salvia...Have Questions [Re: redgreenvines]
    #5921593 - 08/01/06 11:38 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Salvia is alright, the taste is horrible. I've had breakthroughs with 10x and sometimes I just don't get breakthroughs. Its hard to say, but i would start with 10x


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Re: Trying Salvia...Have Questions [Re: pokalot]
    #5922691 - 08/01/06 06:23 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

What kind should i start with?

If you're confident you can take massive hits, then I'd start off with plain leaf. For a first-time user, it should be more than enough [if you smoke it correctly.]

What should I use to smoke it?

Preferably a bong or gravity bong. A pipe can work, but is much easier to get those gigantic rips needed for Salvia with a bong.

should I mix it with pot or smoke it by it self?

Personally, I've never had much luck combining it with reefer.


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Re: Trying Salvia...Have Questions [Re: MushmanTheManic]
    #5922793 - 08/01/06 06:48 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

What kind should i start with?
Well, if you're purchasing a plant (I reccomend this above going and buying it... salvia yields her greatest secrets to people who nurture her in return, ebay is loaded with them too), I highly reccomend the Blosser strain. It's considered to be the palatable strain because its not nearly as bitter or harsh. Start with plain leaf, NOT extracts. If the plain leaf doesn't help, you may be tolerant and need an extract. Either make your own, or buy some.

How do I prepare salvia to smoke it?
Place in bowl or chamber. Apply lighter.

What should I use to smoke it?
Either a multi chambered bubbler, a hookah, or a bong. Something which filters/cools the smoke. Salvia burns extremely hot, and without some means to cool it, it would be extremely painful. I tried my first time with a spoon, and I swear to god I burnt my lungs.

You need to pull in a massive hit, and hold it for about 20-30 seconds, or at least as long as humanly possible. No, I'm not kidding. It's difficult - it helps to be a seasoned smoker.

Last but not least, should I mix it with pot or smoke it by it self? By itself. If you combine them, about the most I've ever seen someone get out of it is a hardcore couch lock.


Just as a side note, if you grow the plant, you also have the option of making a squib. To do this, take 5-10 fresh leaves, press them together, and roll them tightly into a ball/roll. Put this in your mouth, and either chew it like cud, or suck on it for as long as needed. This slows the onset, but the effects have a much, much longer duration. This is similar to the oracular use that the Oaxacans used, only they made a tea from the leaves.


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