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Re: Just met an amazing girl while at a gay bar looking for a transsexual [Re: passitbobbie]
    #5925983 - 08/02/06 04:31 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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passitbobbie said:
You are right that the technical definition of a female is a human with a self-lubricating hole.




I just gotta say I found this really funny. Living in miami, i've been warned about this if you know what i mean.

And do you what you gotta do but i don't see why you'd need to tell the goth girl right away. You don't seem to have so much experience and i can tell you from what I've read in your posts you and her are not in any sort of a relationship where you need to tell her, just be safe. And also lilly's post was more confusing than your sexuality.


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Re: Just met an amazing girl while at a gay bar looking for a transsexual [Re: tomk]
    #5926146 - 08/02/06 05:27 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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tomk said:
It's not that he isn't getting something. It's that you don't get something.

Gender is more fluid then just male and female sex organs. Gender is a complicated social construct that often includes lots of cultural bullshit. Most cultures around the globe have room for a third gender. In India, they are called hijra's. In native american cultures, children who did not confirm to binary gender roled would be put in a hut with a bow (masculine symbol) and pottery (feminine symbol). The child would be told to pick an item to take from the hut, and the hut was lit on fire (so the choice would be automatic without time for cultural pressures to alter the kids choice). A child who picked the item of the opposite gender would be raised as a two spirit person, given some of the responsibilities of both genders. These individuals were considered highly desirable as mated (because a male biological male and a two spirit biological male were able to produce much more wealth then a male and female biological couple). The first buddhist priests were explicitly allowed to have sex with other men, but not woman, on the basis of theoretical reasons. Even look at the roman catholic church, where priests (who are, often as not, repressed homosexuals themselves) are treated to a different set of rules around sexual behavior. You find this throughout cultures. Further, these third gender biological males often held roles around the shamanistic/guru/priest/monk archtype.

As christianity spread, it repressed both people's immediate connection to the divine and limited their available choices of gender identity. This is the framework you are operating on when you criticize the original poster for not seeing gender identity the way you do. Even though your framework of gender seems obvious to you, throughout the world it has been a minority way of conceptualizing gender. The judeo-christo religions work to actively suppress anima, (the feminine subconscious), and this repression of anima leads to the narrow way of conceiving of gender you advocate.

That is especially unfortunate on a psychedelic forum, because third gender types throughout cultures are the ones who are most linked to ethnogenic substances, and because psychedelics and respect for these third gender types are both linked to the same structures in the collective aspects of the unconscious mind.




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Re: Just met an amazing girl while at a gay bar looking for a transsexual [Re: passitbobbie]
    #5926224 - 08/02/06 05:49 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

wait a sec.

Does your "girlfriend" have XX chromosomes?

We need to start talking about chromosomes here cause i am confused to all hell.


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Re: Just met an amazing girl while at a gay bar looking for a transsexual [Re: passitbobbie]
    #5926252 - 08/02/06 05:57 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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I'm sorry I said a mean thing lily I just don't like being called Kid.




:cryariver:

Calm down killer.... excuse me I meant to say kid.


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Re: Just met an amazing girl while at a gay bar looking for a transsexual [Re: THE KRAT BARON]
    #5926299 - 08/02/06 06:14 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

it surprises me that on a web site dedicated to such a mind opening fruit, i find so many closed minded people....


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Re: Just met an amazing girl while at a gay bar looking for a transsexual [Re: impgl]
    #5926329 - 08/02/06 06:24 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Don't worry about it, I pretty much call everyone kid. Some people don't like it, some don't mind. No worries.

All I'm saying, is that you do need to remember that it's still technically a man, and that sleeping with "her" would be a little gay. Whether she describes herself as a woman or not doesn't make her any less of a man as far as biology goes. She still has a Y chromosome and a penis.

And I'm sorry impgl, but I don't see anyone being closed minded, just throwing around opinions. Get over yourself.

passitbobbie, whatever you decide to do, please be careful. I'm sure you have plenty of people on here who will back you up all the way (including myself, pm me if you ever want to chat, I won't judge) but just remember to use protection. These days any person of any gender is likely of carrying diseases, and you just need to protect yourself.


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Re: Just met an amazing girl while at a gay bar looking for a transsexual [Re: impgl]
    #5926349 - 08/02/06 06:29 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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impgl said:
it surprises me that on a web site dedicated to such a mind opening fruit, i find so many closed minded people....




My thoughts also. But it is a different place then it was 4 years ago. jeez, I've been around that long? On and off


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Re: Just met an amazing girl while at a gay bar looking for a transsexual [Re: impgl]
    #5926415 - 08/02/06 06:51 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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impgl said:
it surprises me that on a web site dedicated to such a mind opening fruit, i find so many closed minded people....




Is everybody that likes hullucinogenic drugs expected to have the same values, morals, and beliefs? Thinking everybody should be accepting of people who'd like to fuck trannys is being close minded imo. :shrug:


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Re: Just met an amazing girl while at a gay bar looking for a transsexual [Re: mntlfngrs]
    #5926433 - 08/02/06 06:57 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

not that much different imo. Ive been here the whole time.


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Re: Just met an amazing girl while at a gay bar looking for a transsexual [Re: THE KRAT BARON]
    #5926445 - 08/02/06 07:00 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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mattzdope said:
Quote:

impgl said:
it surprises me that on a web site dedicated to such a mind opening fruit, i find so many closed minded people....




Is everybody that likes hullucinogenic drugs expected to have the same values, morals, and beliefs? Thinking everybody should be accepting of people who'd like to fuck trannys is being close minded imo. :shrug:




What he said. I agree 100% I hate the sterotype that people who have taken a certain amount of a psychedelic should be enlightened or some such shit. That shit can do anything to you look at charley manson for instance he's a fuckin psychopath you could argue he already was one and you would be right but the acid didn't enlighten him did it?


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That's what livin' is to me
That's what livin' is to me"
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Re: Just met an amazing girl while at a gay bar looking for a transsexual [Re: THE KRAT BARON]
    #5926446 - 08/02/06 07:00 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

The level of kindness and respect was higher than it is now.

We don't all have to agree, but there's a way to say it which you reserve for a crowd you respect, and another way to say it in a crowd where you hang.

The Shroomery has slowly moved from the former towards the latter.


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Re: Just met an amazing girl while at a gay bar looking for a transsexual [Re: Asante]
    #5926454 - 08/02/06 07:02 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Who needs kindness and respect? That shit is for hippies man  :wink: :thumbup: :sun:


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Re: Just met an amazing girl while at a gay bar looking for a transsexual [Re: QuantumMeltdown]
    #5926462 - 08/02/06 07:04 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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Who needs kindness and respect? That shit is for hippies man  :wink: :thumbup: :sun:




Nice  :smirk:


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Re: Just met an amazing girl while at a gay bar looking for a transsexual [Re: Asante]
    #5926471 - 08/02/06 07:06 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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Wiccan_Seeker said:
The level of kindness and respect was higher than it is now.

We don't all have to agree, but there's a way to say it which you reserve for a crowd you respect, and another way to say it in a crowd where you hang.

The Shroomery has slowly moved from the former towards the latter.




Don't know about you but I tend to be straight forward about how I feel to people whom I respect. A group "where you hang" on the other hand I tend to tone myself down a bit and go with the flow.

Then again are we supposed to respect every single member on the boards? Respect is earned not given away. Individuals make up a crowd.

Do you really expect a thread that touches peoples core beliefs and morality to be a completely polite discussion? :grin:


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Edited by mattzdope (08/02/06 07:09 PM)


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Re: Just met an amazing girl while at a gay bar looking for a transsexual [Re: THE KRAT BARON]
    #5926557 - 08/02/06 07:27 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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Don't know about you but I tend to be straight forward about how I feel to people whom I respect.




Kindness and respect to me are the default. There isn't a "more straightforward" persona behind it, its sincere.

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A group "where you hang" on the other hand I tend to tone myself down a bit and go with the flow.




Toning down to me means toughening up to the general atmosphere, and that general atmosphere has shifted from warm discussion towards cold debate over the years.

This is not to toot my own horn but the Shroomery was dominated by open, welcoming personalities, until people like PGF came and beat them shut. Nowadays the people "toning down" tone down on caring too much. And the whole hippie-hating atmosphere lately.. If someone were to say "where is the love :heart:" then a large group of shroomerites would write him off as a pathetic sentimental sucker.
It wasn't always like this.

If you look at how people post here in the Pub and how those same people post in OTD you'd have to agree that atmosphere matters a great deal in how someone profiles themselves.


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Re: Just met an amazing girl while at a gay bar looking for a transsexual [Re: THE KRAT BARON]
    #5926607 - 08/02/06 07:42 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I know I havn't been here that long, but I am actually amazed that the the majority of the posts in this thread have been respectful and understanding. I fully expected, given the title of this thread alone, that it would be mercilessly flamed. Sure there were a few jokes, but I think most of it was people being uncomfortable with the topic and trying to break the tension, in a way.

I for one am thankful that there are still people in the world with open minds and open hearts. And passitbobbie, I respect you for being open enough to start this thread even though it was a sensitive subject, and for the honest way you are handling the responses you get. I think you have more "testicular fortitude" than you give yourself credit for.


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Re: Just met an amazing girl while at a gay bar looking for a transsexual [Re: EmperorKuzco]
    #5927775 - 08/03/06 03:59 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

So I met an older black trans online today and went to her drag/trans show which was very cool. All the gay guys were hitting on me and I felt so bad. I was just like "No thanks I'm not into guys I'm just here for X". Danced again... Went back to her place and fooled around. I enjoyed it, no revulsion. She didn't finish which happens sometimes due to the hormones but it was still very nice. I thought I would know doing it once but we didn't get to where the real difference comes in (causing ejaculation through oral or being penetrated). Its no big deal I'm gonna hook up with her again soon which should be fun.


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Re: Just met an amazing girl while at a gay bar looking for a transsexual [Re: passitbobbie]
    #5927823 - 08/03/06 04:47 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I would like to hear more about this "third gender" perhaps my interest in the two are interelated... I know I've certainly been fucked by an entheo a time or two  :wink:


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Re: Just met an amazing girl while at a gay bar looking for a transsexual [Re: passitbobbie]
    #5927919 - 08/03/06 07:01 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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passitbobbie said:
Yea whatever if you had read my post you would know I'm not into casual sex. My girlfriend abandoned me and continues to ignore me and never calls me on the phone, I don't feel so bad.




I realize that I shouldn't have to point out the painfully obvious as I believe most shroomerites have some level of intelligence and ability to interpret events, but some guy who wants another guy who dresses like a girl obviously has something going on in the attic. So, if your "girlfriend" doesn't talk to you, broke up with you, doesn't acknowledge your existance and lives a few hundred miles away, shes not your 'girlfriend'. The prefix "ex" could be used here. Good luck finding a man who dresses like a woman to have a long -term relationship with.


*no flaming*


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Re: Just met an amazing girl while at a gay bar looking for a transsexual [Re: xDuckYouSuckerx]
    #5928044 - 08/03/06 08:58 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

ding ding ding She's got a winner!!!


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