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OfflineAKSE
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Does anyone grow Lion's Tail (Leonotis leonurus )?
    #5918333 - 07/31/06 11:47 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Does anyone grow this herb or have any firsthand experience with it?  I am thinking about ordering some seeds, but would like to know if it will be worthwhile. :mushroom2:


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Re: Does anyone grow Lion's Tail (Leonotis leonurus )? [Re: AKSE]
    #5918347 - 07/31/06 11:51 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I am growing Leonotis nepetifolia right now. It's supposedly a little more potent and faster to flower than the regular Dagga. It is grown very easily, in any half-decent soil. Sow it and water like any other garden plant. It's definately a worthwhile grow. My plants are small (under 10 inches) and the dried leaves produce effects that rival any product I've ever sampled from a vendor. This is one of those plants where freshness proves to be key, or elese you're left with harsh, non-active smoke. I could even sell you some seeds (have tons of them) of this strain, and can vouche for their great viability. I've got live plants I could sell as well. Let me know if you'd be interested.


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Re: Does anyone grow Lion's Tail (Leonotis leonurus )? [Re: emeryg89]
    #5918353 - 07/31/06 11:55 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Wow thanks for the quick reply, I'll deffinitly PM you soon.

I guess the flowers are supposed to produce the best buzz when smoked, have yours began to flowers yet?


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Re: Does anyone grow Lion's Tail (Leonotis leonurus )? [Re: AKSE]
    #5918574 - 07/31/06 01:27 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Marihuanilla, Wild Dagga and Klip Dagga all supposedly contain just leuronine. In my opinion if this is the case then klip dagga contains much more leuronine than the others as it is wonderful material especially used as a base for other smoking mixtures or smoked 10 minutes AFTER weed. I find this puts me in a nice dreamy state with vivid flowing CEVs of its own specific character, I just have to be careful not to let it drift me off to sleep.


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Re: Does anyone grow Lion's Tail (Leonotis leonurus )? [Re: AKSE]
    #5919546 - 07/31/06 07:01 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah. I have about 20 or so plants growing. I bought them from seeds of change, but they look more like nepetifolia now, so i'm not complaining. I also have 3 marihuanilla plants. they are easy to grow, but I haven't tried them yet because they are still young. I put them in some miracle grow soil in about a quarter inch and they popped up in about 5 days. That was maybe 15 or 20 days ago and now they are 4 inches high.


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Re: Does anyone grow Lion's Tail (Leonotis leonurus )? [Re: Oiseau]
    #5919731 - 07/31/06 08:02 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I got a clone of a Leonotis leonurus about 5 months ago, It's now pruned out and is a huge 2.-3ft bush filling up a fair share of its shared bed. Grows great in heat with organics, very easy going, it hasn't flowered yet, or shown signs of pre-flowering, but nonetheless it is a fun grow already.


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Re: Does anyone grow Lion's Tail (Leonotis leonurus )? [Re: Delta9Hippie]
    #5919805 - 07/31/06 08:21 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah I had some plants going, but i lost em when i moved.

theres even this huge plant downtown where i used to live, fuckin monster

heres one of mine b4 it died of frost.



heres that monster



its pointless smoking the leafs, its better made into a tea.
1/4ounce dried leaf into 2 cups tea makes for a lovely night.
the leafs can also be balled up into a bitter quid that will leave u feeling relaxed and euphoric.

the flowers are the only part that should be smoked as they arent as harsh, and much less needs to be smoked to feel any effects.

While the effects remind me of cannabis in a way, they kind have a "dull" effect on your mood and thinking.


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Re: Does anyone grow Lion's Tail (Leonotis leonurus )? [Re: AKSE]
    #5920709 - 08/01/06 12:56 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Smoked 3 grams of lion's tail just the flowers and felt nothing.

Not worth it IMO but only have tried it that one time. :shrug:


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Re: Does anyone grow Lion's Tail (Leonotis leonurus )? [Re: passitbobbie]
    #5925106 - 08/02/06 11:30 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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Marihuanilla, Wild Dagga and Klip Dagga all supposedly contain just leuronine. In my opinion if this is the case then klip dagga contains much more leuronine than the others as it is wonderful material especially used as a base for other smoking mixtures or smoked 10 minutes AFTER weed. I find this puts me in a nice dreamy state with vivid flowing CEVs of its own specific character, I just have to be careful not to let it drift me off to sleep.



CEV's huh? can you describe them. can you take it farther with a heavy dose of the tea?


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Re: Does anyone grow Lion's Tail (Leonotis leonurus )? [Re: Dety]
    #5925117 - 08/02/06 11:32 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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Smoked 3 grams of lion's tail just the flowers and felt nothing.

Not worth it IMO but only have tried it that one time. :shrug:




Were these flowers ordered from a vendor?


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Re: Does anyone grow Lion's Tail (Leonotis leonurus )? [Re: CptnGarden]
    #5925122 - 08/02/06 11:34 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

SoD,could you go in depth on what characteristics you look for when Identifying this plant in the wild?What habitat it likes as well.

Do you have anymore pictures of it in the wild?


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Re: Does anyone grow Lion's Tail (Leonotis leonurus )? [Re: aNeway2sayHooray]
    #5925260 - 08/02/06 12:25 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

not rly, but trust me its not hard to tell if its dagga or not, ive really not seen many flowers that look that way, with the big bulb and tubular orange flowers extending from every hexagonal slot each one is born from on the bulb.


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Re: Does anyone grow Lion's Tail (Leonotis leonurus )? [Re: aNeway2sayHooray]
    #5926597 - 08/02/06 07:40 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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Smoked 3 grams of lion's tail just the flowers and felt nothing.

Not worth it IMO but only have tried it that one time. :shrug:




Were these flowers ordered from a vendor?




Yes i got them from iamshaman.


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Re: Does anyone grow Lion's Tail (Leonotis leonurus )? [Re: Dety]
    #5930162 - 08/04/06 12:18 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

well if u search google images for leonotis, you will get a result of mixed plants, leonotis leonuri, leonotis naepetefolia etc.
leonotis leonuri has longer, thicker leafs, that somewhat resemble yerba santa (closest i can think of right now), with the same cones (balls that sprout flowers) and orange tubular flowers. the naepetifolia specie has leaves that remind me of especialy of catnip, but could be compared to many mints. with again the same flower structure, though the cones may be larger.
naepetifolia may also appear more vine-like in growth with a smooth "square" structured stem (like the orange mint and salvia d). while leonuri specie has very thick woody stems.

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Re: Does anyone grow Lion's Tail (Leonotis leonurus )? [Re: Ebb]
    #5931603 - 08/04/06 02:17 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

^ wow thats very accurate actualy.

that helped me alot too, you explained everything for me lol


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Re: Does anyone grow Lion's Tail (Leonotis leonurus )? [Re: CptnGarden]
    #5932700 - 08/04/06 08:49 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

From many of the pictures I've found on the web, it looks like L. leonurus and L. nepetifolia have differently shaped calices.

On the left, the L. nepetifolia calyx, which is sharp (and in my experience, quite painful.) Right, L. leonurus calyx.
Can anyone who has grown both species confirm this difference?
I grew L. nepetifolia (that I thought until now were leonurus) for the first time this summer. Right now they're all about 10-12 feet tall and pretty much done flowering. Haven't tried them yet though.


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Re: Does anyone grow Lion's Tail (Leonotis leonurus )? [Re: Taharka]
    #5932804 - 08/04/06 09:18 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Why cant u buy it from a vendor "aneways"?


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Re: Does anyone grow Lion's Tail (Leonotis leonurus )? [Re: MustNotBe]
    #5932837 - 08/04/06 09:24 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

well ive found the naepetifolia calyx to break off with sharp thorny spears. yes naepetifolia appear much bigger and rounder. I have a few pods of them sitting right next to me actualy. The leonuri species I had back in my old town was more of a woody tree-like plant, and the pods of calyxs llooked much more condensed, these seem so free in the breeze in spacing.


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Re: Does anyone grow Lion's Tail (Leonotis leonurus )? [Re: CptnGarden]
    #5932952 - 08/04/06 09:56 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

How does it look when Leonotis set seed? For most of the flowers I harvested, I waited until they wilted on their own and then gently pulled them out. Alot of the calices are now turning brown, but the ones I've checked don't seem to have seeds inside of them.


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Re: Does anyone grow Lion's Tail (Leonotis leonurus )? [Re: Taharka]
    #5933094 - 08/04/06 10:46 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

ive not seen them seed, emery might have experience with this.


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Re: Does anyone grow Lion's Tail (Leonotis leonurus )? [Re: MustNotBe]
    #5933711 - 08/05/06 03:19 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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Why cant u buy it from a vendor "aneways"?




Well in my experience(and most other peoples) allot of the vendors that sell entheogenic and medicinal plants do not usually have the freshest or highest quality products.Allot of these plants which we use rely on freshness.Things like sacred lotus and blue lily are usually weak when purchased from a vendor instead of home grown or found in the wild.

The truth is,there is no way to tell how long the plants you are purchasing have been sitting on a shelf or in a closet before they are shipped to you.

Allot of plants people buy as "legal highs" from vendors end up not producing effects.People say "that shit didn't do anything it was nothing like weed":rolleyes:.This outcome is usually a combination of the plant being old and not to its best,freshest potential and the user having to high expectations for it.

Don't get me wrong,vendors provide a great service,but they are a business and businesses are here for money.If you want to get the best out of your plants,grow them yourself.

The reason you or anyone else may not have had noticeable effects from things like lions tail or lotus is because the products the vendor offerers are inferior in quality and usually not very fresh.

I have had a few drinks tonight but I think I got my point across well.Sorry if I seem belligerent.:grin:

Growing a plant you intend to consume creates a bond with you and the plant.In return you learn to appreciate the plant for what it is.This leads to greater results when using the plant to its fullest extent. :thumbup:


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