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OfflinePhishe
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Bad Mescaline Trips?
    #5917103 - 07/30/06 11:44 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

So pretty soon now i'm planning on trying San Pedro. I was wondering if people get bad trips from mescaline? Do you have to prepare as much as other hallucinogens?

There is a lack of info at erowid and i couldn't find a match in the search here.

Also, whats a common dose for San Pedro? How effective is that dose?

I also heard that it is generally pretty euphoric, so thats why i was thinking there is less of a chance of getting bad trips. Am I wrong?


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Re: Bad Mescaline Trips? [Re: Phishe]
    #5917169 - 07/31/06 12:01 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

It's definitely one of the most gentle psychedelic drugs out there... about on par with MDMA in my opinion.


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Re: Bad Mescaline Trips? [Re: Mezcal]
    #5917270 - 07/31/06 12:23 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Cool, sounds great, i'm up for that.


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Re: Bad Mescaline Trips? [Re: Phishe]
    #5917443 - 07/31/06 01:16 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I dont think mescaline is something that should be bought, only sought out in the desert after training and preperation. I have been told this is what the plant itself wants, but i have no personal experience to really say,
Either way, Id say acid is pretty euphoric too tho , but im sure weve all heard of some gnarly freak outs on L


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Re: Bad Mescaline Trips? [Re: tocuhe]
    #5917474 - 07/31/06 01:28 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

For a plant to "want" something, wouldn't it need a brain?

is there really something in its nature to cause a difference whether its bought our not.

Still no info about dosage?


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Re: Bad Mescaline Trips? [Re: Phishe]
    #5917481 - 07/31/06 01:31 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

My friends dad said he did peyote when he was young and it was the most fucked up thing he'd ever done and he did mushrooms at the time. He did not make it sound gentele at all.


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Re: Bad Mescaline Trips? [Re: tocuhe]
    #5917508 - 07/31/06 01:39 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

the 1 time i tried it i blended up 4 foot of cuttings and mixed in a bit of water & some lemons. this left me & a mate with 3 litres each of liquid to drink (dont have my own place to be able to do the boiling process). drank pretty much the whole thing although it took like 6 hours to get the whole thing down so kindve ruined the trip. i eventually got to about a level 3 although wouldve easily gotten to a 4 or 5 if i hadve somehow drank the whole 2 feet within 1-2 hours. it was a pretty euphoric trip and i found it nearly impossible to get into any sort of bad trip. its hard to explain but its just not really possible like it is on shrooms. it did leave me feeling quite different for the next few weeks which i didnt really like. my perception of everything seemed to have changed a lot and if i smoked weed it felt like i was tripping. ive never gotten this effect from shrooms or dxm (never tried lsd).

as far as dosage goes i recommend 2 feet (pachanoi cuttings). just be sure to boil it so you can get it all down. the stuff tastes like shit


Edited by JRichter420 (07/31/06 01:43 AM)


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Re: Bad Mescaline Trips? [Re: JRichter420]
    #5917515 - 07/31/06 01:43 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Jrichter, seems like you were on a pretty big trip. Isnt it normal afterwards to see things differently, the after glow. Coming back to reality. I think you did twice a 'normal' dose. I think a normal dose is 12 inches but i still dont know much about that stuff.


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Re: Bad Mescaline Trips? [Re: Phishe]
    #5917558 - 07/31/06 02:02 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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Phishe said:
For a plant to "want" something, wouldn't it need a brain?




Think about what you are eating these plants for... neurotransmitters! :wink:


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Re: Bad Mescaline Trips? [Re: shymanta]
    #5917584 - 07/31/06 02:15 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Some believe that certain (or all plants) have spirits or high beings connected to them. Examples: mushrooms, salvia, dmt containg plants


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Re: Bad Mescaline Trips? [Re: tocuhe]
    #5917611 - 07/31/06 02:32 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I've done Mescaline 3 times now and each time was complete enlightenment, euphoric, and very gentle.. Will deffinately make your day.. Never once has it ever came close to mistreatin me.


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Re: Bad Mescaline Trips? [Re: Tomcat23]
    #5917759 - 07/31/06 05:18 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Me either...I've done the syrup twice, and the extract once.  Every time...WONDERFUL. You go far out without realizing how far you actually are.  Every sensation is pleasurable. 

The thing about the syrup is that I had relentless puking about 2 hours in.  After that though...I was FLYING.  :smile:  No nausea what so ever on the extracted powder. 

My next dose will be the largest...600 mg of mescaline powder.  I hear it just gets better and better.  :smile:


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Re: Bad Mescaline Trips? [Re: Phishe]
    #5917809 - 07/31/06 06:28 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Hello phishe - I did peruvian torch once - 20 grams dried, I found the beggining confusing and a little freaky - trippy in a strange way - THEN - slowly it began to feel more and more like MDMA but better - every single sensation was causing bliss - strange to have such normally boring things causing such deep contentment .
It lasted as long as acid and tailed off gently then next day no comedown - but I had a strange confused feeling come over me for spells of an hour or two many times over the next few days(this last bit is very unusual I think).

Enjoy :smile: :smile: :smile: :heart:


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Re: Bad Mescaline Trips? [Re: MOTH]
    #5917821 - 07/31/06 06:35 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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Jrichter, seems like you were on a pretty big trip. Isnt it normal afterwards to see things differently, the after glow. Coming back to reality. I think you did twice a 'normal' dose. I think a normal dose is 12 inches but i still dont know much about that stuff.




i never actually drank the entire 2 feet, just the majority of it. plus i drank it over like 6 hours so didnt get the full effect. a lot of ppl say a normal dose is about 12 inches but the potency of each cutting can vary a lot so i reckon just go for the whole 2 feet. maybe just drink half of it to start with and see how u go.

as far as the afterglow goes, it was totally different to anything else ive experienced before. its hard to explain but it sorta felt like i was still tripping for the next 2 weeks. like i was unable to return to baseline. unlike with shrooms which have me feeling back to normal once the drug wears off. the person i tripped with felt exactly the same too.


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Re: Bad Mescaline Trips? [Re: MOTH]
    #5917900 - 07/31/06 07:57 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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EllemyshShade said:
Me either...I've done the syrup twice, and the extract once.  Every time...WONDERFUL. You go far out without realizing how far you actually are.  Every sensation is pleasurable. 

The thing about the syrup is that I had relentless puking about 2 hours in.  After that though...I was FLYING.  :smile:  No nausea what so ever on the extracted powder. 

My next dose will be the largest...600 mg of mescaline powder.  I hear it just gets better and better.  :smile:




I'm sold.  I've been very interested for quite awhile and I am preparing to do an extraction soon.  I've also wondered how 'gentle' it can be.  I'm still prepared for hell, in some small way anyhow  :wink:, but I'm hoping it's a little easier going then mushrooms.


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Re: Bad Mescaline Trips? [Re: Spooge]
    #5917946 - 07/31/06 08:23 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

i couldnt imagine a bad time on cacti... its just so awesome. I didnt think it was possible but i did have one friend who had a bad time - the circumstances were really really fucked up for him though so it was fairly out of the ordinary. One foot is a typical dose but dont be scared to have more! Its very subtle.

I'd love to try the extract - a friend is going to try and make it i think. That said i have had much better experiences when i have been involved in the prep of the drug and highly recommend doing so. We combined several of the techniques you find on erowid to do so. Make sure you freeze it and all that and also strain it through some cheese cloth or something. Have fun!


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Re: Bad Mescaline Trips? [Re: tocuhe]
    #5918054 - 07/31/06 09:30 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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tocuhe said:
I have been told this is what the plant itself wants,





Why bother being arrogant enough to pretend you KNOW what a nature wants?

Same lines of thinking as 'knowing what god wants'.

Now to simply CHOOSE that approach to express your own respect.  :thumbup:

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but i have no personal experience to really say,





Nobody does! Not enough to say for sure. Glad some people still admit it.


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Re: Bad Mescaline Trips? [Re: ExplosiveMango]
    #5918070 - 07/31/06 09:45 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

well maybe it hasnt been bad to you cause you havent rubbed it the wrong way lol. i have only had one experiance where it was bad and it was only for 20 min of the trip my friend questioned its wisdom and we paid dearly intense pain annd a good mind fuck freak out completly cause of him i just was taken on the ride too. dont fuck with it lol


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Re: Bad Mescaline Trips? [Re: ExplosiveMango]
    #5918071 - 07/31/06 09:46 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

well maybe it hasnt been bad to you cause you havent rubbed it the wrong way lol. i have only had one experiance where it was bad and it was only for 20 min of the trip my friend questioned its wisdom and we paid dearly intense pain annd a good mind fuck freak out completly cause of him i just was taken on the ride too. dont fuck with it lol just take it as it comes


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Re: Bad Mescaline Trips? [Re: Phishe]
    #5918236 - 07/31/06 11:16 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Phishe said:
For a plant to "want" something, wouldn't it need a brain?

is there really something in its nature to cause a difference whether its bought our not.

Still no info about dosage?




You don't understand the history behind these plants. Pick up a book, the worst you can do is gain some respect for the plants/fungus you kill for your benefit.


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Re: Bad Mescaline Trips? [Re: StroFun]
    #5918462 - 07/31/06 12:43 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

12 inches of san pedro is not that much. i had a very mature specimen, very thick and 6ft tall. i took 24 inches lasdt time and it was awsome but still nothing overpowering what so ever. i would imgagine anything less would be just a tease


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Re: Bad Mescaline Trips? [Re: LedHead]
    #5919396 - 07/31/06 06:18 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

well cactus,plants and mushroom you dont have to kill for you benifit just pick from it if you take a leaf, mushroom,or cactus cutting your not killing the whole thing


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Re: Bad Mescaline Trips? [Re: thedudenj]
    #5922013 - 08/01/06 02:12 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Take it while sitting in the back of a police cruiser, and they picked you up for cooking it, thats about the only way I could see having a bad trip, maybe if you knew you were in a world of shit for it. It'll be really calm, or atleast it was last time I did it. Insane, but calm.


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Re: Bad Mescaline Trips? [Re: justamonkey]
    #5923555 - 08/01/06 10:39 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

What is this mescaline powder people speak of? Can one inside the United States legally obtain such a powder?


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