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Omnicracker
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"Breathing" a Monotub
#5915060 - 07/30/06 01:51 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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my monotubs have moving incredibly slow, every stage has been almost double the average time expected. the primordia hung around for about a week before they started to pin.
ive been "breathing" them every now and again to promote FEA, without having to open and fan. i hold the top down with my thumbs and with my fingers i press in on both long sides, flexing the walls with the holes. it doesnt seem to drop the humidity at all either.
any input?
sidenote: i think Wronguy points a fan at them for a few hours a day to induce pinning. run on a timer this would return the monotub to it "automated" status.
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Re: "Breathing" a Monotub [Re: Omnicracker]
#5915128 - 07/30/06 02:25 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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there should be a fan going in the room all the time. or at least on a timer. not pointed directly at the tub.
breathing..... interesting. I guess I don't see an obvious problem.
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Atheist
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i fanned mine with my hand for like 10 seconds twice a day, when i woke up and when i went to bed
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Re: "Breathing" a Monotub [Re: Atheist]
#5915208 - 07/30/06 02:56 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Never opened my recent monotub. Had twelve holes in it though, and it was extremely humid inside. I harvested some moist mushies off that.
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zeegos
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Could one put their monotub outside during the day when the temperature is in the 20's range? (I work with *C )
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Re: "Breathing" a Monotub [Re: zeegos]
#5915276 - 07/30/06 03:12 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Just for the sake of fresh air?
Open a window.
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Re: "Breathing" a Monotub [Re: toole]
#5915277 - 07/30/06 03:13 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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I would reckon the wind would supply it with plenty of fresh air. Seems like a good idea to me.
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toole
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Re: "Breathing" a Monotub [Re: zeegos]
#5915288 - 07/30/06 03:17 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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But how does that differ from a window?
Plus with a window, you arn't carrying mushrooms out for your neighbors to see.
Depends on your location for that I guess.
Either way I guess it couldn't hurt, but I see plenty of nice mushrooms come from indoors
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Re: "Breathing" a Monotub [Re: toole]
#5915294 - 07/30/06 03:22 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Well luckily neighbours arent a problem for me. I would just think that outdoors would supply much more fresh air than a fan or open window. Plus, wind direction would be a factor when relying on an open window for fresh air.
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Omnicracker
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Re: "Breathing" a Monotub [Re: zeegos]
#5915455 - 07/30/06 04:10 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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there is a ceiling fan and a big hepa unit running at all times, providing plenty of air circulation in the room. neither are blowing directly on the tubs though. everything is just moving so slow, im just trying to figure out if it was because of the heat, or FAE.
there are pins now, just a few, but im hoping that theyre just early birds and the pinset hasnt really taken off yet. i remember having this problem the last time i tried monotubs, it was like growing in slow motion. it seems like it took about a week from pin to harvest.
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Re: "Breathing" a Monotub [Re: Omnicracker]
#5915460 - 07/30/06 04:11 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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its like doing CPR on a tub. give her about ten pumps to put the life back in her.
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Re: "Breathing" a Monotub [Re: Omnicracker]
#5915542 - 07/30/06 04:29 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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The ceiling fan is enough; that's all that I use for FAE. I think it's likely just the particular sub-strain that you're working with. There are a few other variables that I could probably come up with, but I'd need to know a lot more about your procedure.
Wronguy (or another mod) will probably show up soon to give a better answer as to what the problem could be, but I'm betting that your next monotub grow will be much better.
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Re: "Breathing" a Monotub [Re: Omnicracker]
#5915557 - 07/30/06 04:32 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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The general consensus is that during primordial, pinning, and fruiting stages, you want at least 1, more like 2, and even 3 full fresh air exchanges per hour, for optimal growth.
To determine that amount, you simply calculate the cubic feet of your grow container, then try to change that internal air volume, with fresh air, as stated above.
I don't think fanning, or bellows breathing a tub, is anywhere near optimal. Just my $0.02 cents.
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Re: "Breathing" a Monotub [Re: Tippinthru]
#5915617 - 07/30/06 04:57 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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haha, why not put a vacume cleaner hose up to one of the monotub holes? Air will be drawn out of the tub with fresh air being sucked in. I guess you would want to secure your polyfill with tape though.
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Omnicracker
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Re: "Breathing" a Monotub [Re: zeegos]
#5915623 - 07/30/06 04:59 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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thats the same as pointing a fan right at them, just weirder.
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Re: "Breathing" a Monotub [Re: Omnicracker]
#5915674 - 07/30/06 05:15 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'm not a "tub" sort of girl.
But, it would seem to me, a small computer fan, would work.
 With a piece of course grade pre-filter material in front. Course, like a furnace filter. Which, would allow easy air-flow through it.
You could have one on both ends of a tub. One pushing, the other pulling.
With a timer, this would automate FAE in a tub.
I just use a 60's era coolmist to kill both birds, with 1 stone.
 
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Omnicracker
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Re: "Breathing" a Monotub [Re: Tippinthru]
#5915725 - 07/30/06 05:32 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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im starting to miss my martha... she was the girl what knew my needs.
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tokey666
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Re: "Breathing" a Monotub [Re: Omnicracker]
#5915946 - 07/30/06 06:41 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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My monotub is at a halt now. The shrooms are just....sitting there. Why? The only thing I can narrow it down to is substrate depth. I tried only 1 inch of poo in the bottom of my tub this time. I am guessing the lack of humidity is the problem.
Also, the lack of myc creating carbon monoxide to push out is causing little air exchange as well.
So, how deep is your substrate? Could that be the problem?
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Re: "Breathing" a Monotub [Re: tokey666]
#5916085 - 07/30/06 07:23 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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4inch WBS spawned HPoo and 1/3 inch 50/50 coir/verm casing.
Edited by Omnicracker (07/30/06 07:45 PM)
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tokey666
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Re: "Breathing" a Monotub [Re: Omnicracker]
#5916149 - 07/30/06 07:43 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Well there goes that!
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