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PowerTrip
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How hallucinogenic is weed for you?
#5915812 - 07/30/06 05:58 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Personally, smoking weed sends me right out of my mind if I do too much. I have always had the ability to force some minor visuals, but the way it alters my thought process is what I am referring to when I say it is hallucinogenic. Every time I smoke I go deep into thought over anything currently going on in my life, and I usually arrive at some conclusion as to how I should handle the situation. The body buzz is also very intense for me. If I close my eyes and focus on it I can feel the effects of gravity as if I am flying at high speeds. It is similar to the euphoria I have felt on past shroom trips.
Back when I was a pothead I never had such strong effects from smoking. Maybe something changed since then (roughly 5 years ago). If weed effects my thoughts to such an extreme degree is it an indication that I may have some deep rooted psychological problem? Could it be that my 10 or so mushroom trips have altered the way my brain processes information? My experience is either very unique or this is just something that people don't talk about. Everyone I know who uses weed just does so with the intent to numb their perception and take their mind off of shit. I use it with the intent to gain knowledge and insight.
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Re: How hallucinogenic is weed for you? [Re: PowerTrip]
#5915858 - 07/30/06 06:10 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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you are normal. but those are some strong effects. everyone's brain chemistry is a different.
good for you for using weed to enhance knowledge. good for you for enhancing your knowledge period.
the mushroom trips enhanced your knowledge for sure. they opened your mind some and allowed you to think on a slightly broader plane.
I personally have never had any visuals at all from weed. nothing.
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Re: How hallucinogenic is weed for you? [Re: monstermitch]
#5915870 - 07/30/06 06:12 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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if i smoke to much pot i usually get really lightheaded. what pot gives me is that pixilated look that the darkness gives off at night.
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PowerTrip
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Re: How hallucinogenic is weed for you? [Re: monstermitch]
#5915889 - 07/30/06 06:17 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I personally have never had any visuals at all from weed. nothing.
My visual effects are limited, and cannot be compared to anything on the level of lsd or mushrooms. I don't smoke a very large amount though, so maybe there are boundaries yet to be broken. The visuals I get are mostly only closed-eye visuals, or a completely dark room is required. Nothing is in color, it is just shades of gray.
Another thing I forgot to note is that time dilation is very strong while using weed. What seems like close to an hour really elapses in only ten actual minutes.
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Re: How hallucinogenic is weed for you? [Re: PowerTrip]
#5915891 - 07/30/06 06:17 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ive gone through the same thing. I use to smoke many times a day, stopped for a year or so, and was hesitant to smoke with friends cause id just get real tripped out. I smoke more frequently now and learned to over come the effect - i smoke smaller amounts tho, just 1-2 hits at a time
Its just your tolerance, nothing to stress over
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Re: How hallucinogenic is weed for you? [Re: wunperf]
#5916100 - 07/30/06 07:31 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I have had visiuals. I do get pixilated vision and i also notice a buzz around objects that are closer to my eyes and backgrounds. Iuno i would say that in general pot is hallucinagenic and it is quite interesting.
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Re: How hallucinogenic is weed for you? [Re: PowerTrip]
#5916286 - 07/30/06 08:15 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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PowerTrip said: I go deep into thought over anything currently going on in my life, and I usually arrive at some conclusion as to how I should handle the situation. The body buzz is also very intense for me. If I close my eyes and focus on it I can feel the effects of gravity as if I am flying at high speeds.
Its called being high
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Re: How hallucinogenic is weed for you? [Re: MrClam]
#5916312 - 07/30/06 08:21 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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The first time I smoked, I hallucinated that a squirrel was in my room... Just jumping around and being a squirrel. It was kinda neat, but hasn't happened again since I quit for a while... Then I melted into the couch.
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Re: How hallucinogenic is weed for you? [Re: MrClam]
#5916317 - 07/30/06 08:22 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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yep being high is different to being stoned....Once I took mushies for the first time weed was never the same
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Re: How hallucinogenic is weed for you? [Re: onicko721]
#5916441 - 07/30/06 08:57 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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ugh dont even get me started. this is a sore subject for me because its SO hallucinogenic that i feel like im psycho. obviously when youre stoned you feel psycho, but thats not what im talking about. im referring to the fact that even on 0 tolerance, a lot of my freinds smoke anyway. even though they get really fucked up, and they say things like "wow that was SO fucking trippy.. i got scared blah blah.".. it wasnt for the same reasons as me. i seriously feel like 1/1000. smoking actually triggers a pavlonian response for me. im instantly filled with paranoia. not about cops or shit, but about my life feeling empty.
whenever i smoke i feel like the barrier of contentness which makes me able to deal with the regular world is dissolved.. so im left with a fruitless vision of my future. almost like i feel like i can see my future, and my future is very bad. so i always feel like im seeing my life failing miserably in every way possible. its horrible
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Re: How hallucinogenic is weed for you? [Re: Limelight]
#5916497 - 07/30/06 09:06 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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when i first smoked i thought that a cone was a dear with antlers lying down in my yard. nothing has happened like that since.
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Re: How hallucinogenic is weed for you? [Re: Limelight]
#5916535 - 07/30/06 09:13 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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sucks to be you, man. I'm sorry it's like that for you.
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Re: How hallucinogenic is weed for you? [Re: drloomis82]
#5918989 - 07/31/06 03:56 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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I seem to be quite sensitive to visuals on weed compared to other people I know. I get closed eye visuals almost every single time I smoke, mostly caleidoscopic like things. Always in dark colors (lots of blue). But they are rarely anythign near spectacular. Ive experienced open eyed visuals twice tho'. Once at a festival where a smoked a rather large amount of weed, it was starting to get dark and I saw caleidoscopic images in the sky, eventually a tunnel opened in the sky right above me and I felt like I was flying through it. Also the surroundings were spectacular all of a sudden, trees were amazingly beautiful.
The other time was foolissly eating two grams of hash. I cant remember that much from it, but my vision was really fucked up. I was seeing things frame by frame so to say, extremely weird. Also anything close to my eyes seemed abnorminally big, but things further away were really small.
But otherwise it doesnt come close to shrooms, especially not mentally (although the high from the 2 grams of hash was incredibly intense, but no real mindfuck)
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Re: How hallucinogenic is weed for you? [Re: Celaeno]
#5920649 - 08/01/06 12:32 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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ive never had any hallucinogenic effects with marijuana alone. All i know is it makes my visuals go crazy on mushrooms though
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Re: How hallucinogenic is weed for you? [Re: apfrommsp]
#5920668 - 08/01/06 12:39 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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The closest i've ever been to visuals on weed was my vision moving frame by frame. That happened the first time i got high, and a few times after with killer herb!
Can anyone hallucinate on weed with high amounts or special bud, or do they have to be sensitive to it?
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Re: How hallucinogenic is weed for you? [Re: Phishe]
#5920823 - 08/01/06 01:50 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Well, consitering the fact that I can make my self hulisonate when im sober off all things, when I smoke weed I can really get some nice visuals and intence rushes.
It all depends what my set and setting is like, when im alone, and some where I can relax I can trip out quite well.
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Re: How hallucinogenic is weed for you? [Re: BlindLemon]
#5920877 - 08/01/06 02:15 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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weed has produced some fairly strong hallucinations for me in the past, i remember having a cone and lying down and my room started to shrink and everything in my field of vision started to tile and spiral around
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Re: How hallucinogenic is weed for you? [Re: strange_mind]
#5920936 - 08/01/06 02:59 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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i smoke alot of pot and i just keep getting stoned i smoke alot believe u me i think i smoke way to much but hey what are u going to do
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Re: How hallucinogenic is weed for you? [Re: Wysefool]
#5923763 - 08/01/06 11:28 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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auditory halucinations is all i get from mushies or weed. I always hear what sounds like voices coming from another room, or wierd ringing noises sometimes...but never visual. I dont mind, i like the ability to function pretty normally while high. That way i dont have to plan around gettin high...i jus toke up whenever i feel like it
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Re: How hallucinogenic is weed for you? [Re: unseenat17]
#5924779 - 08/02/06 09:01 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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i've had morphing mostly from hash... i'd stare at something and parts of it would float in some direction, it's like 4D vision or something 
laying with closed eyes gives me this sinking feeling as if my feet are miles away and are loose in space...
first time i smoked was just like the video clip "like a rolling stone" when frames morphed into the next frame with nothing in betwine, sitting down took me three frames and suddenly i was sitting and i thought "how'd i get here?"
synchroniseties always happen to me when i'm high (it get quite confusing sometimes... even distressing!)
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Re: How hallucinogenic is weed for you? [Re: Simisu]
#5930032 - 08/03/06 11:04 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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never ever
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yageman
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Re: How hallucinogenic is weed for you? [Re: ctaf420]
#5930069 - 08/03/06 11:16 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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The more psychedelics you have taken, the more hallucinogenic weed becomes.
Its pretty cut and dry considering the fact that those who have never used any of the classical hallucinogens still find weed to be a drug that can cause hallucinations, Even psychedelic visuals that are somewhat pronounced.
For me, with years of psychedelic use, occasionally used at doses most wouldnt dream of taking, for me, marijuana is an intense psychedelic after taking about 3 fat hits from a pipe.
If anyone was actually wondering if it can produce massive visuals(geometric designs)in some people, the answer is a clear cut YES. For some people it is that hallucinogenic or more.
Its no to be debated, because it has hallucinogenic effects anyways.
So does opium though....... But it does not do what MJ can do to those who have an extensive background of hallucinogen use.
Most people who have tripped 70 times or more, you can bet your ass that they see MJ as a hallucinogen.......(visuals and all)
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Edited by yageman (08/03/06 11:17 PM)
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Re: How hallucinogenic is weed for you? [Re: yageman]
#5930143 - 08/04/06 12:02 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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hmmm...interesting. What makes you think that extensive halluninogen use makes weed more potent to the brink of giving you intense visuals?
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Re: How hallucinogenic is weed for you? [Re: unseenat17]
#5930149 - 08/04/06 12:07 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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i almost agree with that^^^^
but eating so many hallucinagens has actually left me with subtle permanent tracers, and herb does amplify these little devils. i wouldnt say that weed ever makes my hallucinate in the true sense, more like intensify my residuals...
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#5930152 - 08/04/06 12:11 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: How hallucinogenic is weed for you? [Re: Psilicubes]
#5930157 - 08/04/06 12:16 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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well shit...i have never taken acid (i kinda wanna try though), but ive done shrooms quite a bit (20 - 30 times), and nothing has intensified weed for me...i actually have quite a tolerance for it. I have gone two weeks without weed though at the moment cuz im trying to find a different job, so im looking forward to my low tolerance once i do start it up again, which hopefully wont be long *crosses fingers*
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yageman
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Re: How hallucinogenic is weed for you? [Re: unseenat17]
#5930255 - 08/04/06 12:57 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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The major point is that more use of psychedelics is not going to make weed less hallucinogenic.
To "intensify the rediduals" to some, can be so intense that it is considered tripping.
After a strong trip, or many small ones the lessons add up in more ways that one.... It drives some people pretty nuts(wrong path, unhealthy even?), others harness the energy and learn from it consistantly.
There is no doubt that some people feel even extreem psychedelic effects from marijuana.
For the one person wondering about intense visuals.....I was only talking about some people. People who become emerced in this psychedelic mind set. 1500 mics of lsd, one time, will do this to most people.
Flashbacks are total bullshit because of how they are defined. Granted, anxiety attacks can make them seem very real. The truth is that HPPD lives within all who take these drugs. Some people are tuned in such a way that makes these after effects more apparent. For example there is a reason some people dont get visuals from 20x salvia extract.
Marijuana causes visuals anyways. That fact depends on what you consider visuals. If you consider geometric designs in the dark to be visuals, then it, marijuana can give visuals.
Even the highest dose of lsd provides just that but it goes deeper.
"What are visuals" would be the most valid question if you want to know why marijuana can provide you with them no matter what your psychedelic background is..
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Edited by yageman (08/04/06 12:57 AM)
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Re: How hallucinogenic is weed for you? [Re: yageman]
#5930416 - 08/04/06 02:22 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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>Marijuana causes visuals anyways
im not sure if you are saying they cause visuals in everyone, but maybe we dont realize it, but if i turn off the lights or close my eyes...i get cevs with or without weed. I personally dont get any distortions, tracers, micro or macro whatever-you-call-ems, or increased cevs on weed. I have been overbaked on the brink of passing out with heavy sweating and a small episode of an anxiety attack, but I just absolutely do not get visuals on weed.
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Re: How hallucinogenic is weed for you? [Re: unseenat17]
#5930427 - 08/04/06 02:34 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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They dont cause visuals for everyone.
You get visuals with or without weed. SO there you go.
If you dont feel that weed makes those visuals more clear of psychedelic then you are one of the few. That I truely dont understand and have nothing to say about it. If you dont feel that weed hightens those perceptions then I dont know what to say. There is a reason MJ makes you trip harder when you are on any given psychedelic.
To each his own
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Edited by yageman (08/04/06 02:36 AM)
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Re: How hallucinogenic is weed for you? [Re: yageman]
#5930637 - 08/04/06 07:06 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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cannabis has basically the same influance on people... it's just that everyone is diffrent and interpret that influance in diffrent ways! it's also a matter of controling the mind/body... people that practice meditation and all the mind/body arts are probably more suseptible to the effects of THC!?
at least i am, meaning when i concentrate on my mind/body connection is when i get the most effects and indeed the most benefits out of pot! where as if i smoked and just sat and talked to someone or watch TV i would get less prominant effects then if i concentrated on my breath and my body
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Re: How hallucinogenic is weed for you? [Re: Simisu]
#5930954 - 08/04/06 10:03 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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I do get visuals from weed...but then again I can see some when I'm not stoned, they're just intensified when I smoke. It doesn't happen all the time though. Lots of kaladiscope type closed eye visuals like someone said already...some open eye as well though.
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