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hippie_cune
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contamed jars
#5915279 - 07/30/06 03:13 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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im cleaning some contamed jars out to make a new batch. what should i use/do to clean these jars properly?
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zeegos
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Use antibacterial handwash in the jars with hot water then just rinse with fresh cold water.
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Tippinthru
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Suggest you sink closed jars in a tote of hot soapy Lysol/bleachy water.
Unscrew lid underwater, allow jars to fill.
Let soak overnight submerged.
Next day, discard content.
Then, scrub out, and run through the dishwasher.
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monstermitch
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nice thinking there girl...
I've pressure cooked my moldy jars in the past. cleaned them out after in the basement, and soaked the jars in bleach/iodine/anti-bacterial soap water for a few hours, scrubbed out in that soak water, rinsed in clean water and re-used.
however, skipping the pc step to dunk the jars in an anti-bacterial solution for soaking is a good one. sounds like a reasonable alternative.
or you could just throw them away... they cost less than a dollar each.
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Blutjager
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And here I thought pressure cooking the green jars was my own little idea.ha ha,I'm not taking anymore chances of releasing clouds of poison spores around here again after what it did to me in the past
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soulsizzle
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Re: contamed jars [Re: Blutjager]
#5915593 - 07/30/06 04:45 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Blutjager said: And here I thought pressure cooking the green jars was my own little idea.
Actually, I believe the concept is mentioned in The Mushroom Cultivator by Stamets and Chilton. The book was originally published in 1983, so it's hardly a new idea.
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RogerRabbit
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The best thing to do in my opinion is simply toss them in the dumpster, jar and all. A box of 12 jars is $7 or less. Why risk losing everything to save under a dollar? In addition, it's doubtful you can even clean a jar for that amount, regardless how much one values his personal time and effort. RR
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hippie_cune
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hahaha ive already scrubbed em down a few times.
i figured boilin them would get rid of the bacteria.. ill scrub em when they cool again.
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Tippinthru
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RogerRabbit said: The best thing to do in my opinion is simply toss them in the dumpster, jar and all. A box of 12 jars is $7 or less. Why risk losing everything to save under a dollar? In addition, it's doubtful you can even clean a jar for that amount, regardless how much one values his personal time and effort. RR
I agree. But, RR, you might consider that new hands sometimes get the green by the case of jars, when starting out. Some, are on very tight budgets, or for whatever reason, this type jar is hard to come by, for them. So, chucking a case, or more of jars, might not be to practical for them.
I have only had 2 jars contaminate. I did chuck them. Simply because I did not want to risk increasing the spore load anywhere near me.
An experienced cultivator told me that he contaminated a whole 8X8X20 ft grow room once, because he wore a hat in it, he was also wearing, when cleaning out a few contaminated jars elsewhere.
That was his learning lesson about foolishly contaminating a major project. Wasting all the effort, materials, and work he did, taught him to toss jars, rather than clean them out. All the same, he had a very low contamination rate. So, he did not have to toss many.
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hippie_cune
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yeah... budget
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mrmonkey
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Somebody in the future and who knows how long is going to be digging a hole in my yard and come across a few nasty ass jars, maybe I should leave a note not too open them......
I have two jars now with black mold and from reading around I gather that is some dangerous shit in that jar. I wont even open contamed jars in or anywhere around my house or me lol
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hippie_cune
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Re: contamed jars [Re: mrmonkey]
#5915783 - 07/30/06 05:48 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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so you bury them?
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mrmonkey
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I bury them, yea. I mean for the price of new jars I cant justify the risk of opening it or not sterilizing it enough to come back or spreading it in my home.
I bury everything i dont want anyone too ever come across.
I mean it might be far fetched but I dont want too open some contamed jar in my house and have it grab hold and grow in my house or some garbage man break the jar by accident and breath in the stuff.
I tighten the lid as tight as I can wrap foil around it, put it in a plastic bag and bury it about a foot or 2 down.
I mean this is the contam I have right now I think.
http://www.shroomery.org/index.php/par/26782
With this quote I take it seriously.
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The mold you are experiencing is very dangerous! It's called ASPERGILLUS FLAVUS, and it contains one of the most potent toxins known to man called Aflatoxin. This is the stuff you have to beware of when you buy a new house. If I were you, I don't think I'd even open that jar up. Just toss it out in the jar, or bury it.
Edited by mrmonkey (07/30/06 07:06 PM)
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hippie_cune
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Re: contamed jars [Re: mrmonkey]
#5916259 - 07/30/06 08:08 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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mrmonkey said: I bury everything i dont want anyone too ever come across.
hahahhahahahaha
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onicko721
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There must be a way to safely reuse the jars. We throw so much out for convenience. I'd like to see people respecting the earth that gave us these mushrooms to begin with.
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liamtheloser
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Re: contamed jars [Re: onicko721]
#5916568 - 07/30/06 09:19 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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if it's full of black spores, you might as well roll the dice on your health... black spores mean death. if it's full of green spores, you'll be fine, just open them underwater, or what I do is pull the polyfil outta the lid and dump it full of alcohol and let it sit for a good hour or two, then i go outside and toss the contammed substrate into the blackberry bushes.
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fastfred
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It's easy enough to just PC the contammed jars and then reuse them. You can do other things while the jars are PCing and it only takes a few minutes to clean out a dozen jars in the sink. It's certainly worth the time.
I know RR advises using disposable petri dishes and throwing out jars because he doesn't seem to give a damn about the environment, but I hope the rest of you have a more enlightened viewpoint.
I, for one, care a great deal about the environment. I don't sit around and try to rationalize polluting the environment just because when you figure in your time it's slightly cheaper to throw something out rather than reuse it.
A good way to clean out jars is to run a sinkfull of water, add a 1/4 cup of bleach and then open your jars underwater.
It's also a sin to be wasteful and needlessly pollute the environment. "Waste not, want not." "A penny saved is a penny earned." And all that.
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tweach1
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I wanted to Rez this in regards to respecting mother earth and not throwing out something just because it is slightly cheaper/more convenient to do so.
Now this thread is from 5 years ago, and RR states that jars are cheap.
Cheap no more, jars cost 1$ a piece round here and it probably isn't much less elsewhere.
What I cant understand is why you cant just PC a contaminated jar and re-inoculate it? Do some endospores survive? even with a long PC?
This is hard to believe.
I will be re-pcing some contamed jars and re-innoculating them, no opening the jars at all.
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