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Eight, alone
    #5914564 - 07/30/06 10:12 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Hey everybody!
I'm seeking some advice and tips here...
I plan on tripping either tomorrow or the day after, and I'll be ingesting 8 grams, which is my largest dose yet (second largest was 4 1/2). I'll be tripping alone, for my first time ever, so I am wondering what kind of things I should be prepared for, especially on such a large dose. Any recommendations are encouraged! Thanks a lot people.


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Re: Eight, alone [Re: mattXperience]
    #5914573 - 07/30/06 10:19 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I would say try tripping alone on a smaller dose before you go for the whole 8 grams.. You have to realize how your body takes in the mushrooms.. The difference between 3-4 grams and 4-5 grams is a lot greater.. tripping alone is always a toss up with me bc i never really know exactly whats going to happen and it's always a lot easier to cope with the trip when i have someone to talk to..

Basically what im saying is you should prob rethink the 8 grams or a least have a buddy with you IMO


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Re: Eight, alone [Re: DrugFreeMan]
    #5914595 - 07/30/06 10:31 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Like DrugFreeMan said, 8 grams is alot for someone to trip on alone, even with company that is quite a high dose. If your 99% sure you can handle it, go for it. Personally i would advise against it. A bad solo trip can lead to a very alone and very frightful place.

Each to there own though, good luck with whatever you choose.


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Re: Eight, alone [Re: Mushie_Man]
    #5914641 - 07/30/06 10:51 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I'd say...

A. Practice tripping alone first, if there's any doubt that you can handle it.

B. Move up to 6g before 8g.


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Re: Eight, alone [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #5914786 - 07/30/06 12:01 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Excellent advice, going from 4.5g to 8g is a tremendous jump, go up 1 or 2 grams at the most. Don't push too hard too fast, there's no need for that, you'll want to be able to gain something positive from the experience.


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Re: Eight, alone [Re: AislingGheal]
    #5914810 - 07/30/06 12:12 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

some more advice:

on eight grams of good dry cubes, you will get quite a deep trip.

you must be very comfortable with yourself and your decisions in life.

shrooms at high doses have a way of giving people "ego death".
the way I see it is that shrooms will show you the truth about yourself.

they cut through all the bullshit of life and open your mind to a broader perspective.
in this perspective you will analyze your past, present and future life.
your decisions will come into check and so will your behavior.
your relationships are not outside of this judgment either.

I see this as a good thing, a teaching tool.

In my experience, shrooms always show me the truth, but do so
in a manner in which I can learn from.
You cannot get scared, if you do, you just ruined everything.

take the criticism as just that, and learn from it.
accept this new found truth and do your best to apply it to your life.

remember a few things:
it is only a drug!
it will be over in a few hours!
your life has not changed per se, you just ate some mushrooms!

if in a slight panic, those thoughts will return you to earth.


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Re: Eight, alone [Re: monstermitch]
    #5914841 - 07/30/06 12:27 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

wow man! i think im goin to print that out and frame it.


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"If the doors of perception were cleansed every thing would appear to man as it is, infinite. For man has closed himself up, till he sees all things through narrow chinks of his cavern."


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Re: Eight, alone [Re: monstermitch]
    #5916015 - 07/30/06 06:57 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

monstermitch said:
some more advice:

on eight grams of good dry cubes, you will get quite a deep trip.

you must be very comfortable with yourself and your decisions in life.

shrooms at high doses have a way of giving people "ego death".
the way I see it is that shrooms will show you the truth about yourself.

they cut through all the bullshit of life and open your mind to a broader perspective.
in this perspective you will analyze your past, present and future life.
your decisions will come into check and so will your behavior.
your relationships are not outside of this judgment either.

I see this as a good thing, a teaching tool.

In my experience, shrooms always show me the truth, but do so
in a manner in which I can learn from.
You cannot get scared, if you do, you just ruined everything.

take the criticism as just that, and learn from it.
accept this new found truth and do your best to apply it to your life.

remember a few things:
it is only a drug!
it will be over in a few hours!
your life has not changed per se, you just ate some mushrooms!

if in a slight panic, those thoughts will return you to earth.




That was great. More thank what I was expecting in the replies. Thanks..

And yeah, I forgot to mention the reason I'm going with 8:
me and a buddy bought 16, ate 4 each a few weeks ago. It wasn't the best trip, especially considering the fact that 4 is above average and I still didn't get a trip as I have in the past, from smaller doses. This leads me to believe that the batch isn't all that great, so upping the dose will help.


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Re: Eight, alone [Re: mattXperience]
    #5916039 - 07/30/06 07:04 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

sounds like you know what your doing but its best to have some one around, or at lease a call away. shit just call me ill come trip out lol. i guess the best thing you can do is hear music,draw,take a nice walk, meditate. enjoy the universe.(always good triping while a sober girl, but their not always their for us when we need them).


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Re: Eight, alone [Re: LosAngelesGraff]
    #5917991 - 07/31/06 08:42 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

So, I guess I won't be tripping as soon as I expected.
I just learned today that my girlfriend was hit on, and actually kissed twice at a party she attended over the weekend. This information isn't sitting well with me, at all, so I don't think ingesting 8 grams of shrooms is my wisest course of action for this day.

:frown:  I'm so sad and confused right now.


Edited by mattXperience (07/31/06 08:43 AM)


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Re: Eight, alone [Re: mattXperience]
    #5917998 - 07/31/06 08:46 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

are you insecure?

sounds like it.

maybe 8 grams is not a good idea.

my wife would never let anyone kiss her.
she would knock them the f##k out!

if you trust her, there is no need to worry.

now, on to the issue here:

did this guy know her?
did he know you?
did he know you two were together?
alcohol is never an excuse!  Never!

if he did know what is up, I would be paying him a visit.
private like, away from witnesses and phones.
next I would be paying him another visit...

in the hospital. :grin:


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Re: Eight, alone [Re: monstermitch]
    #5918039 - 07/31/06 09:20 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

monstermitch said:
are you insecure?

sounds like it.

maybe 8 grams is not a good idea.

my wife would never let anyone kiss her.
she would knock them the f##k out!

if you trust her, there is no need to worry.

now, on to the issue here:

did this guy know her?
did he know you?
did he know you two were together?
alcohol is never an excuse!  Never!

if he did know what is up, I would be paying him a visit.
private like, away from witnesses and phones.
next I would be paying him another visit...

in the hospital. :grin:




I can't pay him a visit. He lives about 2 hours away from me, as does my girlfriend. We're in a long-distance relationship at the moment (until University starts again), which sucks.

To answer your questions:
did this guy know her? - yes
did he know you? - no
did he know you two were together? - no, which pisses me off even more. she should have told him that she had a boyfriend, and i still dont understand why she didn't. i questioned her about this, and her reply was that it wouldn't have mattered. apparently this guy and his friends don't care if girls have boyfriends or not. They're assholes, from what I've gathered up in the past few days.

And I DO trust her, as far as cheating is concerned. But that still doesn't make me understand why she didn't tell him she had a boyfriend, or simply told him to "fuck off." I'm confused... perhaps she likes the attention.

And am I insecure?... I am at times, but overall, I don't think I am an insecure person. It's just the fact that another guy kissed the woman I love, twice. I mean, how is that even possible? I can see one, if she didn't expect it was coming, but TWO? What the fuck...


Edited by mattXperience (07/31/06 09:21 AM)


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Re: Eight, alone [Re: mattXperience]
    #5918116 - 07/31/06 10:10 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

None get accidentally hit on twice, sorry dude.

I feel for you. Girls can be a real ass at times. Just because she says it was his fault and she wasn't expecting it. Doesn't mean it was his fault and she wasn't expecting it, you catch my drift?

Truth hurts, life hurts more.


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Re: Eight, alone [Re: Mushie_Man]
    #5918215 - 07/31/06 11:05 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

if I were you man, I would not trust her.

no way, no how.
the fact that you are in love is not a good thing right now.
you are vulnerable and your emotions can be controlled by someone else.

this is a very bad position for you to be in.
no one should ever be able to tell you how to feel.
your emotions should never depend on emotions of others.
your emotions should never be dictated by others' actions.

if you fall in a trap where you find yourself in one of those situations,
you have to think for yourself.
Jealousy can kill a relationship, because it means something:
distrust.

How can you trust a woman who refuses to stop other men's advances?
and accepts kisses from them without even mentioning her boyfriend!
If she was serious, she would wear a ring on her left ring finger
while you two were separated and tell others she was involved.

you have yourself a classic cheating, lying bitch on your hands.

my deepest sympathy for you.

and by the way, all is just my opinion.
my opinion should not be taken as fact,
hell, I don't even know anything about the relationship.

just hoping to keep your eyes open and your inner true self protected.


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Re: Eight, alone [Re: monstermitch]
    #5919669 - 07/31/06 07:37 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Sorry to hear about your GF. What she did was inexcusable IMO. It sounds though like you need to talk to her more and get things out on the table right now. Dont let her evade anything or blow it off. Best of luck.


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Re: Eight, alone [Re: monstermitch]
    #5919860 - 07/31/06 08:39 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

monstermitch said:
if I were you man, I would not trust her.

no way, no how.
the fact that you are in love is not a good thing right now.
you are vulnerable and your emotions can be controlled by someone else.

this is a very bad position for you to be in.
no one should ever be able to tell you how to feel.
your emotions should never depend on emotions of others.
your emotions should never be dictated by others' actions.

if you fall in a trap where you find yourself in one of those situations,
you have to think for yourself.
Jealousy can kill a relationship, because it means something:
distrust.

How can you trust a woman who refuses to stop other men's advances?
and accepts kisses from them without even mentioning her boyfriend!
If she was serious, she would wear a ring on her left ring finger
while you two were separated and tell others she was involved.

you have yourself a classic cheating, lying bitch on your hands.

my deepest sympathy for you.

and by the way, all is just my opinion.
my opinion should not be taken as fact,
hell, I don't even know anything about the relationship.

just hoping to keep your eyes open and your inner true self protected.




I agree with what you speak of. Also, I enjoy your quote. Lateralus is one of the greatest albums ever created. I just got Tool tickets over the weekend. I was lucky enough to see them in May for their "Small Venue American Tour"


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Re: Eight, alone [Re: EndlessNameless]
    #5920308 - 07/31/06 10:46 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I got TOOL tix as well, for the Ampitheather in Toronto. I also saw them on the small venue tour, in the Hummingbird Center.


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Re: Eight, alone [Re: mattXperience]
    #5920432 - 07/31/06 11:22 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

you have yourself a classic cheating, lying bitch on your hands.

my deepest sympathy for you.




So priceless.....so true.

Dont waste anymore time in the relationship man, you will never fully trust that girl again. You want to belive your heart and not your brain because I am sure deep down inside you know what she did was wrong but in your heart your making excuses for her, I did that for ten years, dont waste time like I did.


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Re: Eight, alone [Re: mrmonkey]
    #5929299 - 08/03/06 06:01 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Yup, get rid of this chick. Ive been there before. Your distrust will simply get worse and worse and you deserve better than that. You can have such a more fulfilling relationship with someone else if you can trust them 100%.

If she did this she will do it again or worse next time. Trust me on this one, Ive been there. End it now before you get any more attached.


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Re: Eight, alone [Re: davesj1]
    #5929444 - 08/03/06 06:50 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Jumping from 4 grams to eight grams is a little bit silly anyways. Eating 4.5 grams doesnt really prepare you very well for 8 grams. I have eaten eight grams and I wouldnt expect to see anything but visuals for about 4-6 hours if I was you(at those kinds of doses the mind job is tremendous).
Your girl problems could manifest in strange ways. You could end up talking to some flowers and asking them why they dont like you, or some other extreemely weird shit.
Its just such a heavy dose. The classic heroic dose is considered to be 5 grams.

There was a thread just like this a day ago. Guy wanted to dose but he broke up with his girl...
Any girl that cheated on me is instantly forgotten about but I dont hate them for it. Its a defense mechanism. You need to work out that repressed shit though, and that might be more difficult than you would like when on eight grams(you might insist this thought process upon yourself to reach a greater cause). I have only eaten eight grams when nothing was on my mind except spacetime and my fully capable and functioning human body.

SOrry about your girlfriend. That does suck hard. Its nothing I would want to go into a trip thinking about if I really was in deep with that other person.


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You moron. Material is material is material.  No 'thing' fixes any situation.  If anything were so simple we would be living in a much better world.[/quote] <-----the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life.
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