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Mycelium knots
    #5914327 - 07/30/06 07:29 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Hopefully this is the appropriate forum for this Q...

http://www.fanaticus.com/forensic.htm

The link above discusses the FBI's investigation of PF. The text in it discusses the fact that psilocyn/psilocybin was not present until knotting had formed.

At my admittedly basic level of understanding, i don't believe that the knots appear until just prior to the pinning stage. And if that assumption is correct, than why is it considered a bad idea to trade LC syringes?

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Re: Mycelium knots [Re: ghostofbmarley]
    #5914391 - 07/30/06 08:18 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Because spores are intended for microscopic study. An LC implies growing, which with certain species is illegal. Vendors and others trade and sell edible and medicinal cultures freely.
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Re: Mycelium knots [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #5914583 - 07/30/06 10:23 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Ahhhh...I see.

Thank you RR for your reply =)
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Re: Mycelium knots [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #5914616 - 07/30/06 10:41 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Based on that.

It would seem that one could also study mycelium taken from an LC, under a microscope.

I always assumed that there could be detectable levels of "actives" in mycelium of certain species. Certainly, not much (from what I have heard, and read), but, enough to detect.


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Re: Mycelium knots [Re: Tippinthru]
    #5914678 - 07/30/06 11:10 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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I always assumed that there could be detectable levels of "actives" in mycelium of certain species.




Do you mean in non-active species?


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Re: Mycelium knots [Re: Cubenisseur]
    #5914729 - 07/30/06 11:34 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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I always assumed that there could be detectable levels of "actives" in mycelium of certain species.




Do you mean in non-active species?




No, only in active species.

My significant other did lots of work with LC's in volume.

The mycelium from 5 gallons of as near possible optimal LC did (EDIT corrected to DID NOT) produce a "high", or anything near a "high".


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Re: Mycelium knots [Re: Tippinthru]
    #5914748 - 07/30/06 11:45 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

quote from the link in my original post:

- Conclusion: The psychoactive drugs psilocyn and psilocybin were not detected in the mycelium, the earliest stage of development of the mushroom. These drugs were identified in the mycelium knots, the earliest stages of the fruiting body of the mushroom.-

So, if the FBI scientists are to be trusted, technically speaking it would appear that a private trade of germinated spores would be legal, but dealing with that type of technicality stuff is probably not worth the risk. At least that is what I my understanding based on my thoughts and this thread.

EDIT - And also understand why TT's experience consuming mycelium was subpar.
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Re: Mycelium knots [Re: Tippinthru]
    #5914750 - 07/30/06 11:47 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

"did produce a "high", or anything near a "high". "
i dont clearly understand the results. he got a little high from all that LC? no level 1-5?


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Re: Mycelium knots [Re: Omnicracker]
    #5914774 - 07/30/06 11:57 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah that was worded funny... should it read "didn't produce a high"?


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Re: Mycelium knots [Re: Cubenisseur]
    #5914837 - 07/30/06 12:27 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

It should have read......DIDN'T. As in DID NOT. :blush:


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Re: Mycelium knots [Re: ghostofbmarley]
    #5914925 - 07/30/06 01:01 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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So, if the FBI scientists are to be trusted




Bingo.
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Re: Mycelium knots [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #5914954 - 07/30/06 01:12 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

One can detect gold, in sea water.

If you have the expertise, and very sophisticated equipment.

I would think, it would depend on the analytical expertise, and equipment, to detect actives in cubensis mycelium.

Not that I am, or would promote sending live cubensis cultures to anyone. Simply because you could/would be flirting with disaster, if it fell into the wrong hands.


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Re: Mycelium knots [Re: Tippinthru]
    #5915066 - 07/30/06 01:54 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

When I was living in Spain you could go into certain headshops and buy what is essentially a brick of solid mycellium. I bought a rubbermaid and filled the bottom with water, elevated this brick above the water level and 10 days later, shrooms.


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