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Do you recommend a cold shock or upside down 1st if no pinheads?
    #5912615 - 07/29/06 05:14 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Okay...so it's been at least 7 weeks. I have them pretty much at 90% colonized they have shrunk and everything was measured as pftek, they have their own room, same 84% temp the whole time, no light coming through...but have not seen pinheads. They have been done colonizing and have not seem progress for a couple weeks. Should I cold shock them like bring the temp down to 75% for a day? Or should I turn them upside down. We have 8 jars, 4 no lids, 4 with lids. Not sure what else to do. This is our first time and we don't want it to all be a waste. I DO NEED pinheads before I birth them right? I was under the impression that I did, which is why I'm still waiting.


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Re: Do you recommend a cold shock or upside down 1st if no pinheads? [Re: retro_killa]
    #5912620 - 07/29/06 05:17 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

you'v waited too long

once the cake is completely colonized, wait 2-3 days so the inside can finish

then birth it

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Re: Do you recommend a cold shock or upside down 1st if no pinheads? [Re: Atheist]
    #5912651 - 07/29/06 05:28 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

you DO NOT need pins formed to birth a cake.

birth now.

or...

fill the jars/glasses with distilled water,
(if you want you can clean the cakes off a bit and put them back before this)
place them in the fridge for 24 hours (dunking the cakes)
the fridge is not for cold shocking, you don't cold shock cubes,
the fridge is to prevent bacteria from blooming in your water.
remove the cakes after dunking and give em a rinse.
roll them is pasteurized casing material, or vermiculite.
be sure to get plenty on the top and bottom too.
and on to fruiting.

or you could crumble them into trays and case them after the dunk.
or you could spawn the crumbles into a pasteurized bulk substrate.

whatever...


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Re: Do you recommend a cold shock or upside down 1st if no pinheads? [Re: monstermitch]
    #5912694 - 07/29/06 05:45 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

>>>I have them pretty much at 90% colonized

do you mean 90% humidity or they arent done colonizing?

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Re: Do you recommend a cold shock or upside down 1st if no pinheads? [Re: Atheist]
    #5912784 - 07/29/06 06:18 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Someone failed shroomschool or did not attend.

What do you mean you have 4 lids on and four without lids?

Did you just take the lids off, leaving the cake in the jar?

You said no light is getting to them.....do you know if you want start pinning (in most cases), you need to give them some light? possibly FAE?

7 weeks how shrunken are they? All the nutes might be gone by now.

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Re: Do you recommend a cold shock or upside down 1st if no pinheads? [Re: SpookerShroom]
    #5912982 - 07/29/06 07:31 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

there should be enough nutes at 7 weeks not as much as there was
old cakes can stil fruit
they need to be dunked
my cakes never show pins until a week after i birth them

dunk now birth right away light fae light fae light fae

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Re: Do you recommend a cold shock or upside down 1st if no pinheads? [Re: SpookerShroom]
    #5913120 - 07/29/06 08:25 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I do have lids on them I meant the foil on top.


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Re: Do you recommend a cold shock or upside down 1st if no pinheads? [Re: retro_killa]
    #5913129 - 07/29/06 08:28 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Also, they have of course seen some light when my bf kept looking at them. But, I put a stop to that. Well, I will try to dunk them and roll and put them in their incubating terrarium. What does light fae mean?


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Re: Do you recommend a cold shock or upside down 1st if no pinheads? [Re: retro_killa]
    #5913132 - 07/29/06 08:29 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

FAE is Fresh Air Exchange.


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Re: Do you recommend a cold shock or upside down 1st if no pinheads? [Re: Atheist]
    #5913133 - 07/29/06 08:29 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

They are 90 colonized


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Re: Do you recommend a cold shock or upside down 1st if no pinheads? [Re: liamtheloser]
    #5913141 - 07/29/06 08:30 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

OOOOOh alrighty thanks!


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Re: Do you recommend a cold shock or upside down 1st if no pinheads? [Re: retro_killa]
    #5913313 - 07/29/06 10:09 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

90% colonized...
seven weeks along...

sounds quite contaminated to me.
bacteria probably.


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Re: Do you recommend a cold shock or upside down 1st if no pinheads? [Re: monstermitch]
    #5913384 - 07/29/06 10:35 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

for me it has only taken 2 weeks 3 weeks top to be 100% colonized...thats alittle wierd...

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Re: Do you recommend a cold shock or upside down 1st if no pinheads? [Re: unkempt]
    #5913425 - 07/29/06 10:49 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

okie dokie...well I suppose Ill try the dunk n roll, I dont want to just get rid of it. Dang I havent had our 2nd bathroom open for this long...Its just fusterating waiting all this time man all the materials I should have just gotten them from someone else. Thanks everyone for ur answers


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