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OfflineMystic_Cannibal
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some simple questions from a newb
    #5913228 - 07/29/06 09:22 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I'm just starting my first time and I was wondering about a few things because the teks Ive been reading seemed needlessly complicated.
I'm thinking I'm going to do the PF tek and the casing 101 tek. I'm trying to keep it as simple as possible my first time.
http://www.shroomery.org/index.php/par/23805
my questions are
1 Why is it important to poke holes in the jar lids before sterilization wouldn't there be less risk of contamination and water getting in if i waited until just before inoculation?
2 Is it important to put aluminum over the tops of jars? I'm not seeing it in all of the teks, especially if i don't poke holes until after sterilization?
3 In the casing 101 tek they break up the mycelium in a bag before spreading it out couldn't i just break it up in the jars then spread it out?
4 Is it important to use aluminum trays? couldn't i just use the bottoms of my aquariums as big trays?
5 Just so i know i have it understood for casing i just have to put the mycelium chunks over a layer of wet vermiculite then cover them with a quarter ratio of dry casing mix? after that besides spraying and venting i just let them fruit?

Thanks for being patient with the ignorant.


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OfflineMXracer252
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Re: some simple questions from a newb [Re: Mystic_Cannibal]
    #5913262 - 07/29/06 09:44 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

ok i'm a newb to but i'ma take a whack at this one
1)when u pc ur jars 4 sterilazation if u don't have ne holes it'll form a vacume so when u did make holes it would suck unfiltered air into ur jars
2)if u were going to wait till after u pc to poke ur holes u want need tha foil but if u do it 1st u need it to keep water out
3)u can try to break it up n tha jars if u want but i'd say its 99.9% impossible, once the jars colonise there pretty hard to break apart
4) yes u can use ur aquarium its called a mono tub but unless ur going to have massive amounts of cakes or u plan on spawning it i wouldn't try it because ur substrate probably want b thick enough
5) thats tha basics but read more and you'll find out it's not as simple as u think


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InvisibleSpookerShroom
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Re: some simple questions from a newb [Re: MXracer252]
    #5913318 - 07/29/06 10:11 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Pretty good, strait forward answers MXracer!!!

just wanted to add to #5 mystic, you do not add a dry casing layer, you add a sterilized or pasturized field capacity casing layer.

Good questions that the FAQ's might not have answered though.


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Re: some simple questions from a newb [Re: SpookerShroom]
    #5914380 - 07/30/06 08:10 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Sweet God, MX, that is hard for me to read :smile:

IMO, you would have a much greater risk for introducing contams by f'n with the lids once they are sterile.

It is fairly easy to get your lids set up if you have a drill, else you'll need to do them one by one with a nail or something.

With a drill, take one lid and create a template out of it.  Go ahead and drill the template (careful, the drill bit can slide around AND the edge of the lids could(?) be sharp.

Take your the other 11 lids and stack them under the template.  Use masking tape or similar to make an X pattern to hold the lids in place w/o spinning.  Obviously your template holes should not be under that tape, lol.

Drilling the other 11 in this fashion is very easy.  I went fairly slow and counted as I fell through each layer.

Then, remove the X you created, and move on to sterilize the lids and jars per the Tek you are following.

peace,
-ghost


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Re: some simple questions from a newb [Re: ghostofbmarley]
    #5921922 - 08/01/06 01:27 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

thanks guys


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Offlinehippie_cune
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Re: some simple questions from a newb [Re: Mystic_Cannibal]
    #5921937 - 08/01/06 01:33 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

im also a newb, but i thought id add this:

puttin the hole in the jar before sterilization alows u to sterilize what ever nasty shit that nail n hammer brought in. if you were to do it after.. who knows.

this may just be my case where i used a nail that i had to pull out form behind a picture!


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