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InvisibleAssHumper10K
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Re: Thor a vendor?!?? Check this out.... [Re: SouthernGent]
    #591783 - 03/28/02 10:15 AM (22 years, 6 months ago)

My first customer! (although I did a couple freebies for doctor dingleberry when I arrived here. How quickly they forget.)
PM me.


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Re: Thor a vendor?!?? Check this out.... [Re: AssHumper10K]
    #591878 - 03/28/02 12:34 PM (22 years, 6 months ago)

where are the spore distribution rules? i've never heard of these.


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Re: Thor a vendor?!?? Check this out.... [Re: AssHumper10K]
    #591883 - 03/28/02 12:43 PM (22 years, 6 months ago)

ooooh, ok. i get it. 'They sell oil. It is their business to sell oil, not to look for alternative sources of energy' they sell spores. that's their business. it's not their business to look for alternate ways to grow shrooms. ways WITHOUT using spores.......

ok, maybe i don't get it.........

Link


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Re: Thor a vendor?!?? Check this out.... [Re: AssHumper10K]
    #591921 - 03/28/02 01:33 PM (22 years, 6 months ago)

PGF, you have way too many puppets.


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Re: Thor a vendor?!?? Check this out.... [Re: 3DSHROOM]
    #591946 - 03/28/02 02:07 PM (22 years, 6 months ago)

Link you are fucking hilarious. Me like Link.

Would you freaking calm down asshumper10K? You have a good point but attacking everyone on this site so viciously is not going to make you any allies except for SouthernGent who seems to fear your asshumpings so much that he even changed his mind in a 180 degree manner on the subject.

A better analogy for this than oil companies would be a GM of an NBA team who was also the league commish. You would think that he would have a bias towards his team. Of course he would. But even in that situation there would be very little that he could do to favor his team without it being so obvious to everyone else that he would not be able to do it. And don't forget there is also 3D and Anno. And the Mod's. And don't forget that while it is easy for you to flame all day long about this, because you are technically right, that this is a unique environment with unique needs. Who the hell else is going to Administrate this place with the objectivity that thor has shown? You? It isn't exactly like people are lining up for the responsibility he has. And if they were, they might be doing it to further their agenda. Thor already has a track record of being fair and honest.

In my opinion, Thor should give it a try. If things start getting fucked up and the other vendors call foul then he relinquishes his duties here. I mean if I start coming to the shroomery and seeing thor's company on the homepage everytime in big brite letters I am going to stop coming and I think alot of others would too and I think thor knows that and doesn't want that. I think it would work out, if only for the reason that it is thor and there will always be people like you to keep everything in check. You are necessary, a dickhead, but a necessary dickhead. People like you and PGF are the ones who keep this place from becoming one big giant asskissing festival to the admins and mods.


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Invisibledjfrog
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Re: Thor a vendor?!?? Check this out.... [Re: Thor]
    #591996 - 03/28/02 03:03 PM (22 years, 6 months ago)

My concern is not people's impressions here, as anyone willing to take the time can find other vendors. But I worry about people who want the shroomery to be taken down will be able to use such an association. At least in the US there are people who don't think you should be sharing how to grow mushies. Now if they can show that you are profiteering off the venture (or even imply it), they have a lot more room to bring the board down.

Case in point:The Hive. These guys got burned, because the guy running the board was also distributing supplies.

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Re: Thor a vendor?!?? Check this out.... [Re: Thor]
    #592019 - 03/28/02 03:31 PM (22 years, 6 months ago)

Wow this is such a tough one to comment on. Thor I think you've done an outstanding job with the Shroomery in the last year as Admin. You and 3Dshroom both have.  I would really hate to see you step down from being Admin.
At the same time I would not like to see a vendor as an admin or moderator. no vendors are moderators, and an admin has much more power then a moderator.
It?s been that way for a long time here, for as long as I've been posting here some 4 years or so, I've never seen a vendor be a moderator or admin here that I can remember.


Although I also have seen you are a stand up guy, very fair and thoughtful in your decisions.
Eventually it?s going to be hard for you not to be biased towards your own spore business, its just human nature.

Many think it?s only the other vendors that are going to care. Well to some degree that is true. It?s us other vendors that support this place and help pay most of bill.  www.thehawkseye.com pays $150 every month here, about twice all the other vendors are paying so naturally I'm going to be concerned. I even just donated $500 towards the new server we will all be enjoying soon, so yes I really care about the future of this place.
And one of those concerns is that we have admins that are fair and neutral to the spore & supply business side of it.
I personally could not stay neutral and unbiased if I were a mod or admin here. I even asked for my name to be pulled when
a voting poll was going on for a mods here last year.

Now I realize Thor you need to make more money. Who doesn't want more money that needs it. I was broke while I was going to school also. I know the feeling :crazy:
What ever happened to that idea I gave you about polling all the advertisers from High Times to put banners here?
High Times themselves charge a good $600 to $2000 a month for banners on their website.
I can?t see how that idea would not work. Especially when banners here are much cheaper. This is a counter culture website and High Times, Cannabis Culture, Heads Magazine, they are all counter culture mags full of advertisers looking to get there product out there to people like us.
If you poll all those advertisers certainly many of them would bite and pay to have their banners on The Shroomery.
Just some thoughts to help you get more money. What banners are here now are paying the monthly bill right? And that $$ figure will get cheaper soon with the shroomery on its own server. So if you bring in more advertisers, then it starts becoming prophet for you. Then we no longer have a conflict of interest of you being a spore vendor/admin etc...

I think you?re a good person Thor and of course I want good things to come to you, especially some financial gain if you?re going through some tough times right now. But being a vendor here with Dimitri is a huge conflict of interest with other vendors and the simple fact that vendors are not admins or mods here. Instead neutral to it.
I defiantly don?t want to see you step down from being Admin here. You do a great job with it. I just hope there is another resolution to this to help get you more money.

As I suggested to you a long time ago. Raise the prices of what you?re charging for banners. $75 to $100 a month,  is not unreasonable. Getting more advertisers here, not just mycological related vendors could certainly bring in a lot more money and solve your financial problem.

I don?t know what more I can say. You just need to follow your heart and do what you feel is right. I would really hate to see you step down as Admin. At the same time I would really hate to see another vendor as admin or moderator here, no matter who it is. Even our beloved Workman :smile:  Maybe you can do it unbiased for a while. But its just human nature you will favor your own business over time.... me thinks. :tongue:
But just so you know, I'll stand behind your either way weather I agree with it or not.







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Offline3DSHROOM
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Re: Thor a vendor?!?? Check this out.... [Re: Ryche Hawk]
    #592037 - 03/28/02 03:54 PM (22 years, 6 months ago)

If Thor was to become a vendor he could use a different nick so that the admin status doesn't have an effect on people's decisions on who to buy from. As LeGrouper said, if he was to use his status to help his own business, it would clearly show to everyone and he would be called out on it.

I know Anno and myself would not let him do anything of that nature. Thor has said that he would give up his duties as an admin of the BB so that there would be no way for him to get an unfair advantage over other vendors. I'm sure Anno, myself, and all the mods can take care of it on our own.

I think he could restrain himself from abusing his power but I can see how many people wouldn't like for this to happen.


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OfflineLeGrouper
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Re: Thor a vendor?!?? Check this out.... [Re: Ryche Hawk]
    #592045 - 03/28/02 03:59 PM (22 years, 6 months ago)

Wow, you're a smart fucker ryche. I am ordering from you now. That was the best post here by far. I think that just about sums it up. That is a good idea to get more advertisers and make a little money off of that. I think the admins should be able to make some profit off of the ads, especially if it helps to keep thor around and keep him impartial. This place is growing all the time and is becoming a place where advertisers should really start paying more attention. I have ordered stuff from trippy store, a place I would never have known about had I not seen it here. But I still think it wouldn't be that big a deal if thor was mixed up with a vendor.


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Re: Thor a vendor?!?? Check this out.... [Re: djfrog]
    #592068 - 03/28/02 04:27 PM (22 years, 6 months ago)

I think djfrog makes an excellent point. A bit paranoid, perhaps, but it never helps to be extra paranoid. If your commercial activities draw the attention of LEO that would surely give them ammo to bring a case against The Shroomery. I don't know why nobody picked up on his point, but I think people should discuss this seriously. The chances may be slim, sure, but we'd all have a lot to lose if that's how things turn out.

I change my mind: I think it's much better in the long run to keep the two activities separate. I'm sure you'd make a fantastic vendor, just as you're a fantastic admin, but it's probably in everybody's best interest that you don't be both at the same time.

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Invisibledjfrog
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Re: Thor a vendor?!?? Check this out.... [Re: EchoVortex]
    #592087 - 03/28/02 04:51 PM (22 years, 6 months ago)

I don't think its paranoid at all. We can't predict when the shit will hit the fan, but when it does, game over. Its very important that those who take a public position "to help stop the spread of dangerous misinformation related to psychedelic mushrooms" can withstand scrutiny not just from friendly members of the community, but those who would do the community harm.

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Re: Thor a vendor?!?? Check this out.... [Re: AssHumper10K]
    #592101 - 03/28/02 05:14 PM (22 years, 6 months ago)

Sooner or later a board and its members have to govern themselves. I was on a board where there was so much inner fighting, people stopped posting and new members hung around long enough to say, "this sucks". This board is'nt an oil company. If Thor fucks up, hopefully, his friends will be good enough friends to set him straight. Are there rules against what Thor wants to do? He asked for opinions now the choice is his the same way the choice is yours, as to whether or not you will hang/post on a board where the admin is also a vendor. If anyone feels THAT strongly then maybe they should start a new board. (Thats what ultimatly happened on the other board I was on). I will say THIS......for those of you who don't agree with Thor's decision to become a vendor, if you choose to stick around, just don't piss and moan about it, OK? That would be a real drag for the rest of us.

Edited by Kitten2 (03/28/02 05:48 PM)

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InvisibleJackMehoff
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Re: Thor a vendor?!?? Check this out.... [Re: djfrog]
    #592134 - 03/28/02 06:02 PM (22 years, 6 months ago)

djfrog you are wise beyond your years.

You, PGF(Crobih), AssHumper10K, and Crobih(PGF) have made me see the light.

How could I have been so blind?

Could it have had something to do with seeing this as bringing the blatant hypocricy that is always under the surface here out on the table for all to view. Could it have something to do with seeing the bullshit for what it is and haveing an appreciation for cutting thru said bullshit. Could it have something to do with seeing money go into Thor's pocket caused me to briefly overlook the fact that I am concerned for those who know no better, the children, yes and even the idiots who can not see the situation for what it is here and also for same who can not see the real dangers to this site and to the members here that are present and real.

Could be!

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Re: Thor a vendor?!?? Check this out.... [Re: Ryche Hawk]
    #592149 - 03/28/02 06:21 PM (22 years, 6 months ago)

In reply to:

www.thehawkseye.com pays $150 every month here, about twice all the other vendors are paying so naturally I'm going to be concerned.


I wish that were true Ryche. THE LITTLE GUY pays $120.00 in advertising per month plus donations on top of that.

Edited by boxtop703 (03/28/02 06:29 PM)

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InvisibleSouthernGent
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Re: Thor a vendor?!?? Check this out.... [Re: JackMehoff]
    #592166 - 03/28/02 06:32 PM (22 years, 6 months ago)

I got a better solution to the whole problem Thor goes on and makes a fortune in his new business venture, and I SouthernGent buy the Shroomery and raise advertising cost commensurate with the number of hits the site gets and market banners to the high times guys hence bringing more info providers to help us all. Sure I get wealthy, Thor gets to make some money, and Anno would be promoted to Vice President and chief Moderator. Life is good.


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InvisibleJackMehoff
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Re: Thor a vendor?!?? Check this out.... [Re: ]
    #592173 - 03/28/02 06:43 PM (22 years, 6 months ago)

The natural concern of Reich is duely noted.

Considering he has made HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS
from members here over the years his $150 is money well spent.



Never under estimate the gullability of the idiot element


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    #592177 - 03/28/02 06:47 PM (22 years, 6 months ago)


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Re: Thor a vendor?!?? Check this out.... [Re: Anonymous]
    #592186 - 03/28/02 06:52 PM (22 years, 6 months ago)

Be patient Mcman i ll be negotiating new ad rates and spots soon.


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InvisibleJackMehoff
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Re: Thor a vendor?!?? Check this out.... [Re: Anonymous]
    #592200 - 03/28/02 07:09 PM (22 years, 6 months ago)

Here is where Reich (or somone) points out all of Reich's generous contributions to paying for maintaining this site over the years. Conveniently failing to mention that the Shroomery was hosting his site all those years and provideing him with countless potential customers all at the same time. Congratulations go out for paying the rent while at the same time provideing an outlet to make some serious bucks off of the members here.

In reply to:

I for one would pay top dollar for a spot there.




I bet you would!!




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Re: Thor a vendor?!?? Check this out.... [Re: Thor]
    #592328 - 03/28/02 09:57 PM (22 years, 6 months ago)

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