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Offlinezeegos
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Oven tek, alternative?
    #5911869 - 07/29/06 12:07 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I was just wondering if this would work. Take a large pot and boil some water in the bottom of the pot so you have a constant flow of hot air/steam rising, place your jars on a shallow rack inside the pot so it isnt touching the water and carry out inoculation procedures that way. Would that work?


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Re: Oven tek, alternative? [Re: zeegos]
    #5911875 - 07/29/06 12:09 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I'd say it's too warm. Just use a cardboard box with seran wrap on top and a whole in each side... voila, still air box


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Re: Oven tek, alternative? [Re: zeegos]
    #5911882 - 07/29/06 12:12 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Doubtful. I don't see that creating a very strong updraft. Plus I think the oven tek is flawed to begin with unless you're in a clean room, in which case its a little redundant.


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The sun was pulling cheap shots doing commercial body tricks, Behind the back, Under the leg, I think he even did a headspin, On a crossfader that sounded whack, But looked excellent, All of the sudden it gets dim, The crater face steps in, Puts mexican drumbreaks on the Technics, He's like "Let's begin", He conducted an orchestra so dope the sun started sweatin' him, I guess he'd expected to win on pure artistic merit, Composing complex plays with nothin but soundbytes, Burned out the lights, Made MCs too self conscious quit the master mics, For a thousand nights, It continued without a single slip up, Except once the record skipped, But it kinda sounded cool.


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Re: Oven tek, alternative? [Re: beyondsisxth]
    #5911887 - 07/29/06 12:15 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

yeah, the oven tek is just circulating unfiltered air, and very slowly too...


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Re: Oven tek, alternative? [Re: liamtheloser]
    #5911899 - 07/29/06 12:20 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

ah, i see. Well that cardboard box idea sounds easy enough, seeing as i have plenty around im gonna get to it. Thanks


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Re: Oven tek, alternative? [Re: zeegos]
    #5911922 - 07/29/06 12:33 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

yes, and when using the still air box, be careful not to stir up much air... You can make a much better one by using a rubbermaid tub or sterilite tub... That way you can put a rack and water in the bottom... But don't need that sort of precaution if you're just innoculating jars.

Don't forget to sterilize your needle between each jar, you can use alcohol and flaming or either by itself.

Have fun!


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Re: Oven tek, alternative? [Re: zeegos]
    #5911929 - 07/29/06 12:36 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Still air, in a confined place, is far better to do that sort of work in.


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Re: Oven tek, alternative? [Re: zeegos]
    #5911942 - 07/29/06 12:42 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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ah, i see. Well that cardboard box idea sounds easy enough, seeing as i have plenty around im gonna get to it. Thanks




Yeah, An just go to the grocery store and buy some cleaning glove for about 2-3$.


You just need to seal it good with everything you need inside and spray a little bit of solution of H2O + bleach(very very very little bleach) on every wall and item inside, wait for 15-20 min for the bleach to evaporate and start working.


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Re: Oven tek, alternative? [Re: ExoticBlend]
    #5911951 - 07/29/06 12:46 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

you don't need to seal it... it's not for handling nerve gas or anthrax :P

Just needs an environment with still air... A lot of people seal their boxes because they're paranoid, but it's definately not neccessary.


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Re: Oven tek, alternative? [Re: ExoticBlend]
    #5911953 - 07/29/06 12:47 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

have you secured those gloves to that box there? or do you just where them when using it?


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Re: Oven tek, alternative? [Re: zeegos]
    #5911967 - 07/29/06 12:50 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

i always wear gloves, but I usually wear latex, a lot of people use dishwashing gloves because it looks cool, like you're dismantling a biological weapon or something.


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Re: Oven tek, alternative? [Re: liamtheloser]
    #5912004 - 07/29/06 01:04 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)



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Re: Oven tek, alternative? [Re: monstermitch]
    #5912120 - 07/29/06 01:45 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Wow....

I must be the sloppiest person on here, I dont use anything when knocking up jars. I turn off the a/c, wash down the area, spray half a can of lysol all around in the air, wash my hands, flame the needle and go to work.....30+jars, 2 contamed and I am sure it happened while I was flipping them around looking for growth.

Never sterilized my casing layers...no contams
Boil water in a pot to sterlize jars...no contams

Maybe I am just fortunate and live in a well insulated house or something.


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Re: Oven tek, alternative? [Re: mrmonkey]
    #5912128 - 07/29/06 01:49 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

What general, non-specific area of the States do you live in? Humid or dry?


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Re: Oven tek, alternative? [Re: zeegos]
    #5912143 - 07/29/06 01:57 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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zeegos said:
have you secured those gloves to that box there? or do you just where them when using it?




Yes They are WELL secure. When you use it, you sweat and it may be difficult to take them off/put them on. So it need to be strong enought.


Here's a view form outside and inside. I will probably put more ducktape inside when I'll use it againg.

What i did is i put 2 layer of duck tape. The first being hafl in the glove and hafl on the box. Them i add an other layer over the one on the box. Make it solid, it's better to have more duck tape than not having enought and broking your box while working with it.

And the reason I seal it it's because I like working with A/C running, so since i have a good airflow outside my box, i take no chance.


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Re: Oven tek, alternative? [Re: ExoticBlend]
    #5912185 - 07/29/06 02:11 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

nice, thanks. im just looking to make something not too fussy like that.


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Re: Oven tek, alternative? [Re: zeegos]
    #5912849 - 07/29/06 06:43 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I live in humid area's, typical humidty is in the 90's


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Re: Oven tek, alternative? [Re: mrmonkey]
    #5912901 - 07/29/06 07:08 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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mrmonkey said:
Wow....

I must be the sloppiest person on here, I dont use anything when knocking up jars. I turn off the a/c, wash down the area, spray half a can of lysol all around in the air, wash my hands, flame the needle and go to work.....30+jars, 2 contamed and I am sure it happened while I was flipping them around looking for growth.

Never sterilized my casing layers...no contams
Boil water in a pot to sterlize jars...no contams

Maybe I am just fortunate and live in a well insulated house or something.




you must be.
props to you. :thumbup:

most of us struggle.

my house is sooooooooo old and sooooooooo moldy.
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Re: Oven tek, alternative? [Re: monstermitch]
    #5912963 - 07/29/06 07:25 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

i just nock up my jars like mrmonkey turn off a/c sometimes i forget spray with lysol sterilize needle thats it last 80 jars 0 contam before that i had alot get contamed from a bad spore print. if the lc is clean the needle is clean thats good enough. used a glove box once and it was to much of a pain when my spore print was bad anyway.


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Re: Oven tek, alternative? [Re: monstermitch]
    #5912969 - 07/29/06 07:27 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Hmmm I might have eat my words, I have 22 jars colonizing and just checked them and about 10 of them have some black looking dirt in them, I dont know what it is because I used BRF and Vermi and never seen this before, I am going to post pics tommorrow although I dont think it is contmed from air, I think I let the boiling water seep into the jars.....I dunno but it doesnt look very good too me.


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