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Zen Peddler


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Bored? why not take shrooms and try and invoke a demon-thing?
#5911154 - 07/29/06 04:11 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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http://www.boudillion.com/lam/lam.htm
towards the bottom there are instructions on how to communicate with this guy - kinda weird eh?
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deXtrous
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Re: Bored? why not take shrooms and try and invoke a demon-thing? [Re: Zen Peddler]
#5911160 - 07/29/06 04:19 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Any dickface can tell that Lam looks like an alien.
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Phishe
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Re: Bored? why not take shrooms and try and invoke a demon-thing? [Re: Zen Peddler]
#5911162 - 07/29/06 04:23 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I think by doing that, you're messing with the occult. I do not really believe in this, but many do and its still something to be weary of. Not meant to scare you if your gonna start tripping! Hell it would be cool though to meet these beings, have fun if your really gonna go for it.
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Zen Peddler


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Re: Bored? why not take shrooms and try and invoke a demon-thing? [Re: deXtrous]
#5911166 - 07/29/06 04:29 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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yeah true - i wasnt saying that that point was particularly interesting, more the info on how a person can contact this guy. Im not particularly interested in doing it myself, as ive already had enough experiences with the paranormal to last a life time...
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Re: Bored? why not take shrooms and try and invoke a demon-thing? [Re: Zen Peddler]
#5911202 - 07/29/06 05:10 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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whats wrong with messing with the occult? Occult is simply hidden knowledge. At various points in history, all math, science, medicine and etc. were considered occult.
In fact, taking mushrooms is in itself an occult activity, only for initiates.
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Re: Bored? why not take shrooms and try and invoke a demon-thing? [Re: kotik]
#5911207 - 07/29/06 05:19 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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There are other ways to cure heavy boredom. Even is "magick" we're to be a legit passtime, or a physically possible occurance, surely one wouldn't want to go around conjuring spirits for their amusement.
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Re: Bored? why not take shrooms and try and invoke a demon-thing? [Re: Wasteland]
#5911378 - 07/29/06 08:10 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Oh yes Magick is real, and invoking spirits can be a dangerous pastime. The real problem is not in the summoning itself, but what to do with the spirit if it is hostile or wants to attach itself to you. Ideally one has foreknowledge of the entity to be summoned and has a specific reason for the summoning.
Simply inviting spirits to come and play without reason, and without protecting oneself, is to invite disaster!!
I have encountered spirits like Lam, they all have some deep underlying purpose that they would love to impose upon you if you let them. I never have. They seem too much in a hurry, and alittle too intense.
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Re: Bored? why not take shrooms and try and invoke a demon-thing? [Re: phungi]
#5911645 - 07/29/06 10:44 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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not sure if it works that way either
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Mourningdove
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Re: Bored? why not take shrooms and try and invoke a demon-thing? [Re: Marcellus_W]
#5911749 - 07/29/06 11:14 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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People who fuck around like this get burned...and deserve it.
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phungi
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Re: Bored? why not take shrooms and try and invoke a demon-thing? [Re: Mourningdove]
#5911905 - 07/29/06 12:24 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Mourningdove said: People who fuck around like this get burned...and deserve it.
People who "fuck around", as you put it, may very well get burned, but my question is.....who are you to say who deserves what?
People who pass judgment based on ignorace are the ones who may get burned MORE than they deserve. Be slow to judge. Quick to forgive.
If you are using entheogens then you are as open to the powers on the other side as anyone else using them, remember that.
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Edited by phungi (07/29/06 12:27 PM)
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Re: Bored? why not take shrooms and try and invoke a demon-thing? [Re: phungi]
#5912062 - 07/29/06 01:28 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Good point. Sorry for putting it that way.
I just got alarmed by the title of the thread. One may want to think about messing with such powers just to relieve boredom...
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UnderNose
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Re: Bored? why not take shrooms and try and invoke a demon-thing? [Re: Mourningdove]
#5913882 - 07/30/06 02:43 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Aleister was on to something. Lots of people see this and other entities or feel the results of their actions but don't recognize it!!
I have seen "The Watchers" on high mushroom doses, not a good feeling at first. Understanding them is not easy. Like the document said "To gaze into the eyes of this entity is to invite potent contact. One feels an immediate sensation of lightness, of weightlessness, and then a sensation of falling... of being sucked into a vortex" "Witnesses often feel like they are being sucked into their eyes. They also invoke deep feelings of fear"
When this happened to me and a friend it was difficult to get away from. It felt like mind control or minds mixing. We could feel all the above feelings and see a vortex. Wasn't totally scary just unsettling
Not sure if they were accidentally invoked or just interested. One thing that my friend remembers is that we were able to see this because we were so fucked up, but were unable to understand them for the same reason
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Re: Bored? why not take shrooms and try and invoke a demon-thing? [Re: UnderNose]
#5913960 - 07/30/06 03:19 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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No you don't have to "invoke" these types of entities for them to show up, especially during a heavy entheogen experience.
Just remember your basic tools of defence: Trancending of Fear. System reset. Relaxation. Letting Go.
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UnderNose
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Re: Bored? why not take shrooms and try and invoke a demon-thing? [Re: phungi]
#5913975 - 07/30/06 03:24 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hay Have you ever experienced a pocket in time in which the environment you were in is put on pause or you are taken to a identical representation of that area, where the people you were with are replaced by "entities", They start saying things your friends could not even comprehend let alone say
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Zen Peddler


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Re: Bored? why not take shrooms and try and invoke a demon-thing? [Re: UnderNose]
#5914068 - 07/30/06 04:04 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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when people say that you get burned from these types of things id have to agree that there really isnt any evidence that this is the case. Infact, until recently, human history was littered with encounters with teh paranormal, with spirits, possession and all sorts of weird stuff. its only since the european acceptance of judo-christianity that everything non-biblical is regarded as heresy, evil, sinister or dangerous.
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Re: Bored? why not take shrooms and try and invoke a demon-thing? [Re: Zen Peddler]
#5914091 - 07/30/06 04:19 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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The only thing I can think of as getting burnt are feelings of intense fear, anxiety and paranoia, Any actions feelings resulting from this could be seen as getting burnt. Maybe leading some people to never return.
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Re: Bored? why not take shrooms and try and invoke a demon-thing? [Re: UnderNose]
#5914138 - 07/30/06 05:14 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Scary!
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EquilibriuM
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Re: Bored? why not take shrooms and try and invoke a demon-thing? [Re: Hoss]
#5914442 - 07/30/06 08:48 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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careful with the inorganic beings...
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ExplosiveMango
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Re: Bored? why not take shrooms and try and invoke a demon-thing? [Re: EquilibriuM]
#5918127 - 07/31/06 10:16 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Interestingly, part of the ritual for invoking Lam, or Lams, is to begin by meditating on the eyes of Crowley's Lam portrait. To quote Kenneth Grant: "To gaze into the eyes of this entity is to invite potent contact. One feels an immediate sensation of lightness, of weightlessness, and then a sensation of falling... of being sucked into a vortex...." Sound familiar? It is well known among UFO investigators that the eyes of the "grey aliens" have a powerful effect on the witness. Witnesses often feel like they are being sucked into their eyes. They also invoke deep feelings of fear.
Grant continues with instructions: "The eyes will enlarge and will suck in [your] consciousness until there arises a sensation of being within the entities head." (Again, this is presented as a good thing.) In any event, the first gate of consciousness is obviously through the eyes. And thus one who would meditate upon the eyes of a portrait of such a entity will indeed begin the process of opening a portal within themselves to the entity. In other words, you don't have to be a trained occultist to raise hell in yourself, which is also one of Keel's contentions.
those must be the instructions?
I think I could believe a bio-chemical argument relating the particular facial geometry to its supposed powers. Since facial geometry recognition has been genetically ingrained for millenia, it is very likely that huge numbers of individuals (same 'human' genetic structure) may be vulnerable to psychological distortions resulting from chemical action triggered by the image of this distorted face. By meditating on the image, or giving deep focus to the image, you may be able to increase neuro-kinetic energies, in such a way as to potentially cause the types of psychological cascades of 'belief' often seen in UFO/Occult obsessives.
This image's connection to the human neuro-chemistry through our universally present knowledge of facial geometry is definitely an unknowable link at this technological juncture.
I find their are lots of ways to believe this- "In other words, you don't have to be a trained occultist to raise hell in yourself" -line.
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Re: Bored? why not take shrooms and try and invoke a demon-thing? [Re: ExplosiveMango]
#5918611 - 07/31/06 01:43 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hey...anyone know some sort of occult ritual me and some friends could do for our next trip? I don't actually belive in this stuff so it would just be for shits n giggles.
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Re: Bored? why not take shrooms and try and invoke a demon-thing? [Re: Shlewm]
#5918662 - 07/31/06 02:08 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Aliens scare me!
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ExplosiveMango
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Re: Bored? why not take shrooms and try and invoke a demon-thing? [Re: Shlewm]
#5918999 - 07/31/06 03:58 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Shlewm said: Hey...anyone know some sort of occult ritual me and some friends could do for our next trip? I don't actually belive in this stuff so it would just be for shits n giggles.
Read the article, get a big picture of an alien/Lam, get some candles in a dark room, make up a chant on your mushroom come up, and recite it while you stare into those eyes.
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Re: Bored? why not take shrooms and try and invoke a demon-thing? [Re: ExplosiveMango]
#5919241 - 07/31/06 05:22 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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My very first time ever using mushrooms, I was at WEMF in 2002. I remember being in the Psytrance room at around 4am. I was the only one there, and I should have probobly been back in my tent. But instead I was mulling in the trance room, enjoying an extremely powerful trip. Then I saw them. I was dancing slowly in the corner, and I closed my eyes. I re-opened them, and the room was empty. Then I closed my eyes again, and I was suddenly dancing with an entire room full of people. All were beautiful, all were good - or at least those were the energies I felt. So, I smiled, and kept dancing. Eventually I couldn't tell if they were there or not, I'd close my eyes, and they'd still be there, I'd open them, they'd still be there, I'd close them again and they'd be gone, only to return when my eyes reopened. The thing that was strange, was that I felt their presence. Something was there. It wasn't just a hallucination... I could feel body heat and warmth, and the most beautiful feeling of accompaniment I think I've ever experienced. Since that day mush has been my favorite... and I think that's why.
Maybe if they were something parallel to this... maybe there's other things you can contact as well?
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Re: Bored? why not take shrooms and try and invoke a demon-thing? [Re: wiggles]
#5919399 - 07/31/06 06:20 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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dont do it man , its not worth it ! your better off eating shrooms and makeing prank calls
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Re: Bored? why not take shrooms and try and invoke a demon-thing? [Re: wiggles]
#5919819 - 07/31/06 08:25 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Many many things can be made contact with. When your assemblage point is unlocked from the ordinary position, there is potential for you to experience all kinds of entities, and for them to notice you as-well. What you describe is very much different then these inorganics.
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Re: Bored? why not take shrooms and try and invoke a demon-thing? [Re: Shlewm]
#5919836 - 07/31/06 08:32 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Shlewm said: Hey...anyone know some sort of occult ritual me and some friends could do for our next trip? I don't actually belive in this stuff so it would just be for shits n giggles.
Isn't there a rule in the occult that you have to first believe in it, for it to work.
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xxxchristian69
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Re: Bored? why not take shrooms and try and invoke a demon-thing? [Re: Zen Peddler]
#5919844 - 07/31/06 08:36 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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demons are bad they want only to destroy you dont contact them
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Re: Bored? why not take shrooms and try and invoke a demon-thing? [Re: xxxchristian69]
#5919881 - 07/31/06 08:44 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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They don't want to destroy you, they want your energy, they need it. They will trade you knowledge for it, but they are sneaky and may try and trick or trap you...
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Re: Bored? why not take shrooms and try and invoke a demon-thing? [Re: EquilibriuM]
#5921665 - 08/01/06 12:03 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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I wouldn't mess with something you don't believe in. I may not believe in the bad side of humanity, but every day I see it on the television screen.
Whether you believe in something or not, it can still affect you. I'd be afraid to attempt to contact a "demon." I'm happy the first thing that ever made contact with me was happy, and loving.
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Re: Bored? why not take shrooms and try and invoke a demon-thing? [Re: wiggles]
#5921745 - 08/01/06 12:30 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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wiggles said: I wouldn't mess with something you don't believe in. I may not believe in the bad side of humanity, but every day I see it on the television screen.
Linguistic error. Previous use of the word 'believe' in this thread has been used to mean 'believe exists'. You clearly 'believe' the bad side of humanity, you just don't identify with/love/want (believe in) it.
However, I imagine ideas about demons are powerful things... maybe you could conduct a ritual while balancing your thoughts in the disbelief part of your mind... but what's the contingency if they slip and fall?
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phungi
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Re: Bored? why not take shrooms and try and invoke a demon-thing? [Re: EquilibriuM]
#5921970 - 08/01/06 01:51 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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EquilibriuM said: They don't want to destroy you, they want your energy, they need it. They will trade you knowledge for it, but they are sneaky and may try and trick or trap you...
I agree, they like to barter and trade.
So the question is, how good of a haggler are ya? And how much are you willing to give up? 
I have never percieved them as demons. Just "others", some very friendly and generous, and some not so much. Always look into the eyes if you can, if you feel fear let it wash over you and own it, never let it own you. This is what causes insanity for some people on high dose entheogens, for others its their path to freedom, people like myself.
Any how always look at the eyes of any entity that you encounter if you can this tells you much about its intention and how powerful it is. If it draws you in and you are able....let go and become one with it, then you will recieve its lessons. And wisdom is with these spirits, and entities.....much, much wisdom.
Remember that fear will freeze your mind and make you useless. Arm yourself with words so that when the fear comes you have a plan and the words to carry it out. "Fear is the little death that brings total obliteration."
If you can conquer fear then communing with higher minds will be a joy, if not......leave this kinda shit alone, your sanity's not worth it. 
With Perfect Love,
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