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zappaisgod
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What it is relevant to is your willing suspension of disbelief when any whackjob concocts some highly creative bit of nonsense as long as it runs counter to what everybody else believes.
So I should believe the 9/11 commission report even though they were caught in an lie? It's not about any wackjob anything, it's about the very people who were nominated to explain those events to us lied. I don't believe liars, if you do that is your prerogative. I would hope you know by now they lied so I don't have to dig up a link, but if you call me on it I will be glad to.
I was quite disgusted with the makeup of the 9/11 commission myself. I thought one member should be before it as she crafted that polcy that emasculated our intelligence agencies. They also ignored Able Danger. I don't know what lie you refer to. The only thing I found was that they were rather ineffectual in determining what stupid policies led to our failure to detect the attacks because they were complicit in covering up Clinton administration's incompetence. This had nothing whatsoever to do with a conspiracy to actually commit the attacks.Quote:
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I call total bullshit. No one said anything about the 6 million
That's funny, I was watching CNN yesterday and it took the jew on their about all of 1 minute to bring up the 6 million. They are using the 6 million line whenever anyone tries to suggest isreal is out of line. So yes, there are many, many jews talking about the 6 million during debate about the current conflict.
I am not aware that CNN is in anyway affiliated with the US Government or me or anybody else who posted anything in this thread. But I now know beyond refutation that you are a jew hater. That's fine. You have a lot of company. Of course, that kind of explains your position and willingness to accept any jew bashing report from anywhere. Too bad you can't find a link to that CNN report.Quote:
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Israel's right to invade Lebanon was invoked when they were attacked
This has not been proven. You claim this as does your buddy Phred, but I have seen just as many sources claiming the soldiers were captured by hezbolla inside lebanon. And if that is true then the whole claim that isreal was attacked falls to pieces.
And we always go back to this. You have some douchebags who you say report Israel was in Lebanon. You never supply any links to these sources. And I never get a fucking answer out of you as to what would ever prove to you that they were attacked in Israel. That's fine, I know what you are now. And the UN, no friend to Israel, has condemned Hezbollah, as have several Arab nations, also not friends of Israel, for attacking across the border. But hey, they don't hate jews as much as you so they must be dupes.
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I don't know what lie you refer to.
They publicly denied ever having been informed of able danger, then later retracted that statement and admitted they had. That = lie and they even admitted it.
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But I now know beyond refutation that you are a jew hater
Why? Because I disagree with you? What exactly makes you so sure I hate them? I am used to these tactics though. I will tell you right now, weather you believe it or not, that I do not hate jews. What I do hate is violence and govts who instigate war. Other than that I do not hate anything as I feel hate is a very strong word that should not be used lightly.
I am sick of the fighting, and the govt of the US and isreal are not doing anything to end it. They are just causing more because there will never be a "mission accomplished" since there is no country to conquer. Unless the western policy plans to be genocide of all the arab people, we will never win. We are filling the ranks of people willing to fight the west by our actions and our support of isreal. We could stop isreal if we wanted to, but we support them instead. Thus continuing the cycle. New arab babies being born right now will be fighting us in the future because of the ignorance of people like you that think war actually will solve this.
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You never supply any links to these sources
Here ya go,
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the intelligence concerning Able Danger was provided to the 9/11 Commission and ignored. Two 9/11 Commission members, Timothy J. Roemer and John F. Lehman, both claimed not to have received any information on Able Danger.
Following the Government Security News report, members of the 9/11 Commission began commenting on the information they had on Able Danger
Wikipedia
And about the current isreal warmongering,
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The militant group Hezbollah captured two Israeli soldiers during clashes Wednesday across the border in southern Lebanon
http://www.forbes.com/technology/feeds/ap/2006/07/12/ap2873051.html
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The Lebanese Hezbollah movement announced Wednesday the arrest of two Israeli soldiers in southern Lebanon.
http://english.bna.bh/?ID=47348
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In the afternoon, the scene changed in the streets of southern Lebanon, which was the target of 32 Israeli raids that mainly targeted areas near the area where the two soldiers were captured in Aita al Chaab, close to the border with Israel.
http://news.monstersandcritics.com/middl...turing_soldiers
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The militant group Hezbollah said it captured two Israeli soldiers during clashes across the border in southern Lebanon on Wednesday.
http://en.chinabroadcast.cn/2947/2006/07/12/191@113428.htm
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It all started on July 12 when Israel troops were ambushed on Lebanon's side of the border with Israel.
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/HG15Ak02.html
I do not claim know the background of all of these sites nor can I attest to their credibility. But I have found a shit load of links, I and many others would have a very hard time believing you if you claimed every single one of them are wackjob conspiracy theorists.
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zappaisgod
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I don't know what lie you refer to.
They publicly denied ever having been informed of able danger, then later retracted that statement and admitted they had. That = lie and they even admitted it.
Yes, I mentioned that in my post. Did you read it?
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But I now know beyond refutation that you are a jew hater
Why? Because I disagree with you? What exactly makes you so sure I hate them? I am used to these tactics though. I will tell you right now, weather you believe it or not, that I do not hate jews. What I do hate is violence and govts who instigate war. Other than that I do not hate anything as I feel hate is a very strong word that should not be used lightly.
I am sick of the fighting, and the govt of the US and isreal are not doing anything to end it. They are just causing more because there will never be a "mission accomplished" since there is no country to conquer. Unless the western policy plans to be genocide of all the arab people, we will never win. We are filling the ranks of people willing to fight the west by our actions and our support of isreal. We could stop isreal if we wanted to, but we support them instead. Thus continuing the cycle. New arab babies being born right now will be fighting us in the future because of the ignorance of people like you that think war actually will solve this.
No, it was how you referred to the guy on CNN as "it took the jew on their (sic)" Then there is your disgusting insistence that they should allow themselves to be slaughtered by avowed uncivilized troglodytes who care nothing for life and use their own people as human shields, hoping and praying that there will be a defensive reaction that will kill civilians and even transporting dead babies from site to site to enhance their publicity campaign. Why don't you deplore Hezbollah's actions? And Hamas's? And Islamic Jihads? And Iran's? And Syria's? Syria assassinated the former prime minister of Lebanon because he wouldn't be their puppet. You do know that, right? Or do you think it was the Joooooooos that did that? The Islamofascists are the sole precipitors of the violence. Let Israel have its tiny slice in peace and there will be no fighting. That is all
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You never supply any links to these sources
Here ya go,
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the intelligence concerning Able Danger was provided to the 9/11 Commission and ignored. Two 9/11 Commission members, Timothy J. Roemer and John F. Lehman, both claimed not to have received any information on Able Danger.
Following the Government Security News report, members of the 9/11 Commission began commenting on the information they had on Able Danger Wikipedia
Yes, I know about that. I also know it relates to a coverup of Clintonian fuckups, which is why I screamed about Jamie Gorelick being on the commission in the first place. I also mentioned it in my post above. If that's all you got well then good luck to you. And about the current isreal warmongering,
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The militant group Hezbollah captured two Israeli soldiers during clashes Wednesday across the border in southern Lebanon
http://www.forbes.com/technology/feeds/ap/2006/07/12/ap2873051.html
Sorry, grasshopper, but that link does not put the Israeli troops in Lebanon. The hezballoids crossed the border in Southern Lebanon, not the Israelis. Wishful thinking on your part.
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The Lebanese Hezbollah movement announced Wednesday the arrest of two Israeli soldiers in southern Lebanon.
http://english.bna.bh/?ID=47348
Now who is being a disingenuous fool? "The Lebanese Hezbollah movement announced" Are you now a mouthpiece for these scumbags? Unfuckingbelievable. Like I said, willing to suspend disbelief for any whackjob.
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In the afternoon, the scene changed in the streets of southern Lebanon, which was the target of 32 Israeli raids that mainly targeted areas near the area where the two soldiers were captured in Aita al Chaab, close to the border with Israel.
http://news.monstersandcritics.com/middl...turing_soldiers
More of the same
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The militant group Hezbollah said it captured two Israeli soldiers during clashes across the border in southern Lebanon on Wednesday.
http://en.chinabroadcast.cn/2947/2006/07/12/191@113428.htm
Same sentence as earlier, "Hezbollah said it captured two Israeli soldiers during clashes across the border". Hezbollah said it had clashes across the border. They are based in Lebanon. But whatever, why do you believe this source?Quote:
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It all started on July 12 when Israel troops were ambushed on Lebanon's side of the border with Israel.
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/HG15Ak02.html
Once a-fucking-gain you find the criminal's own claims to be credible. This is buffoonery in the finest. The prisons are full of innocent men too. Yeah right. What was it PT Barnum said?
I do not claim know the background of all of these sites nor can I attest to their credibility. But I have found a shit load of links, I and many others would have a very hard time believing you if you claimed every single one of them are wackjob conspiracy theorists.
It's the same people making the claim every time. Hezbollah. You can find ten thousand links to Hezbollah making that claim, I won't care. No wonder you were ashamed of your links
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There's really no reason to trust Israel anymore than Hezbollah. God knows both have been caught elbow deep in the cookie pot of bullshit before.
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Re: Loose Change [Re: Redstorm]
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I find this kind of relativism disturbing. I know of no Zionist pronouncement calling for the destruction of Islam. I am also unaware of any Israeli suicide bombers strolling into crowded cafes. I am also quite cognizant that Israeli soldiers stand in front of civilians as opposed to behind them. So, cut the bullshit. It is beneath you.
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I don't give two shits for the lives of either the Muslims or Jews of the Middle East. In fact, I would be much happier if they just stopped fucking around and just finally did away with each other.
With that said, just because the Israeli's get their jollies off by bulldozing houses rather than splodey-doping civilians, it doesn't make them any more honest. A commando mission like the one described into Lebanon would not suprise me at all. God knows they've done it before. Anyways, I'm not going to believe either group because they're both fucking scum.
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Re: Loose Change [Re: Redstorm]
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I think that is bullshit. If the Israelis weren't being constantly threatened with annihilation they wouldn't be bulldozing anything, they'd be tending their olive trees. An utterly ignorant position. Feel free to link me to any Israeli pronouncement calling for the annihilation of Muslims. Thank you in advance for your abject failure to do so.
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It doesn't matter if it's bullshit; it's my stand on the issue. I don't give a fuck about the rest of the world, let alone the shithole that we like to call the Middle East. I don't want us to waste lives or my tax money there. Europe created the whole region, so perhaps it's time for them to start cleaning it up.
I could equally call your opinion that we should have our hands in the matters of other regions bullshit as well, but you're entitled to your opinion.
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Re: Loose Change [Re: Redstorm]
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I'm too fucking tired. Too many Mels, too little sleep
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Fair enough. We can continue whenever you would like.
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Re: Loose Change [Re: Luddite]
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zappaisgod said: What it is relevant to is your willing suspension of disbelief when any whackjob concocts some highly creative bit of nonsense as long as it runs counter to what everybody else believes.
As to this: "There the air is clear and there is nothing to be ashamed of. I just don't believe it has any bearing on Israel's right to rampage through it's neighboring countries and commit atrocities all the while claiming "the 6 million, the 6 million". WW2 is over and the arabs didn't have shit to do with it. Tell me about the 6 million when someone is actually trying to exterminate the race instead of just trying kick jews out of their grandparents land. Israel has no more right to invade lebanon than saddam had to invade kuwait and weather I believe the govt set up 9/11 or not has nothing to do with it. "
I call total bullshit. No one said anything about the 6 million. Israel's right to invade Lebanon was invoked when they were attacked, yet again, by elements in Lebanon sworn to their destruction and funded, supplied and supported by other governments sworn to the destruction of Israel, and which had not been acted against by the, alleged, legitimate government of Lebanon pursuant to article 1556. That's it. You can stamp your feet all you want but they have a right to live and defend themselves. Again, TOTAL BULLSHIT on your part.
I'm getting so sick of this "they have a right to defend themselves" line. They are waging all out slaughter on those people, but I guess the best defense is a good offense.
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Re: Loose Change [Re: Hank, FTW]
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They are waging all out slaughter on those people,
This is a lie. If they were, those people would all be dead.
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They are waging all out slaughter on those people,
This is a lie. If they were, those people would all be dead.
How many Hezbollah have been killed? How many civilians? How many children?
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Re: Loose Change [Re: Hank, FTW]
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Why don't you link it for us? And while your at it, please explain why Hezbollah is launching rockets from and setting up operations in hospitals and residential neighborhoods and next to UN outposts. Interesting thing about that hospital the Israelis just raided, there were no patients in it. And the commandos checked IDs. http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1153292046965&pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull
Wholesale slaughter? You are lieing. It's a good thing the Israelis used ground troops. If they had just taken it out with jets we might have seen "Green Helmet" again with the same bodies from Tyre and Qana. http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2006/07/milking-it.html
And useful idiots everywhere would be wailing and gnashing their teeth.
As for your ludicrous wholesale slaughter charge we have this, which you were too lax to post. http://www.moiz.ca/coffin.htm
Lebanese casualties as of 8/3/6.....900. No distinctions made.
Why do you hate Israel and lie about her? Is it a Joooooo thing, Mel?
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