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smoked a gram of 20x in two days..
    #5907585 - 07/28/06 12:36 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

So I've tried salvia maybe 5 times now.. Never breaking through. I've experienced the normal effects of salvia like feeling disconnected from reality but thats nothing like what I've heard salvia does to the people who break through.. I tried taking one good hit and holding for 30 seconds and lay back and close my eyes. I did get a weird effect were it seemed like layers of the darkness started to strip away and I forgot where I was but no intense hallucinations or being shot to another world.. Anyone know of a site that has an extract that is really good and sure to make me experience something worth experiencing? I'm probably willing to try once more before calling it quits.

I know it was a waste to smoke all that in two days but I've heard salvia trips can be amazing, I just want to experience it..


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Re: smoked a gram of 20x in two days.. [Re: psychout]
    #5907990 - 07/28/06 04:41 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

i didnt get a "breakthrough" until I had gone through quite a bit myself. Give it time, it's not like you can just take X amount and all of a sudden breakthrought..

it has more to do with your mindstate and experience with the drug, than it has to do with potency.


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Re: smoked a gram of 20x in two days.. [Re: psychout]
    #5908171 - 07/28/06 07:13 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Are you sure your 20x indeed is 20x ?
You might have poor quality salvia.


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Re: smoked a gram of 20x in two days.. [Re: Asante]
    #5908580 - 07/28/06 10:47 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I bought it at my local cigar land shop.. $30 for 1 gram 20x and here is a link to what the package looked like..
http://www.everyonedoesit.co.uk/img/products/salvia_extract_60x_flavoured.jpg
I wouldn't be surprised if it was bad quality or isn't real 20x..


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Re: smoked a gram of 20x in two days.. [Re: psychout]
    #5908627 - 07/28/06 11:08 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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I tried taking one good hit and holding for 30 seconds and lay back and close my eyes.




If you didnt wake in sweat-soaked clothes smelling of poo, you either have another definition than I of "one good hit" or the Salvia sucked.

And my bet is on your Salvia sucking.

The package you linked to was labeled "Salvia 60x" which almost certainly is complete horsie, and that likely goes for the 20x of same brand which you bought.

Salvia 60x implies that salvia is purified to its crystal state, and then that 175mg is soaked into one gram of leaf.
Redgreenvines, by all means correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think it is possible to soak 1 gram of salvinorin into 5.7 grams of leaf. Looking at DMT teks I've read, you'd be hard-pressed to get beyond the benchmark of 1gr into 19gr to make 20gr, which is used in the DMT world. These proportions would only allow for a Salvia 20x

So you have a company that sells a flavored Salvia 60x
I'm sorry, I don't buy it, and I suggest you do neither.

I don't think they mean "times the potency of plain leaf" when they write 20x or 60x

And you bought a gram of 20x for $30 at a random vendor?
Really, I think you've been had - badly. From a random vendor you'd be lucky to get 1gr of Salvia 10x for that price.

Only buy Salvia extract from Shroomery vendors, and they are almost guaranteed to be highest quality.




EDIT: holy hell I think I get it.
Perhaps they mean with "20x" that you can do twenty doses from that one gram. That would put your gram a LOT closer to a true Salvia 5x and $30 for a gram of standardized Salvia 5x isnt at all unrealistic.

Watermelon flavored Salvia 60x...

Sorry you've been had.

Reputable companies are for instance Bouncing Bear Botanicals and Iamshaman.


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Re: smoked a gram of 20x in two days.. [Re: Asante]
    #5908645 - 07/28/06 11:14 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Hey Wiccan, is it known what causes the sweating factor? It happened every time I tried it.


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Re: smoked a gram of 20x in two days.. [Re: demiu5]
    #5908666 - 07/28/06 11:23 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Its the same manufacturer that is sold at all the vendors in my area and I think you're right, it must just be false advertisement. They probably do mean the amount of doses you get from the amount sold. So yeah it seems the 60x is the exact same product as the 20x just larger quantity.. Man that pisses me off but it does explain a lot if it was equivalent to 5x. I guess there is still hope for me. :smile:


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Re: smoked a gram of 20x in two days.. [Re: psychout]
    #5908741 - 07/28/06 11:49 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I have 80x that is actually 80x! I mean just a pencil dot, with hot flame, does it everytime.
REAL 20x is powerful enough, IMHO
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Re: smoked a gram of 20x in two days.. [Re: deadheadjpc2000]
    #5908752 - 07/28/06 11:56 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: smoked a gram of 20x in two days.. [Re: Asante]
    #5908817 - 07/28/06 12:29 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Wiccan_Seeker said:
If you didnt wake in sweat-soaked clothes smelling of poo, you either have another definition than I of "one good hit" or the Salvia sucked.

And my bet is on your Salvia sucking.




let's not dismiss the fact that some people are in fact, salvia hardheads, or that many have such misconceptions of a breakthrough (i first heard that term on this board, years after I had already experienced what it refers to).

Lets ALSO not forget the inverse tolerance effect, which again relates to my original reply, that breakthroughs (I am starting to oppose this term around here) have more to do with your own physical and mental preparation than potency, or volume.

I know more than a few people that simply cannot feel the effects of salvia, for one reason or another, and many who resist the experience while its happening. Personally, I believe that the more you try to relate with the physical world, or your own memories, the less you will get from salvia.


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Re: smoked a gram of 20x in two days.. [Re: kotik]
    #5908933 - 07/28/06 01:19 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

great post kotik,

I agree.

and interesting theory (the last sentence).


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Re: smoked a gram of 20x in two days.. [Re: astraalialma]
    #5909001 - 07/28/06 01:48 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Well I have had a state of feeling disconnected from reality, like it was shooting at me from my left side like gravity or a force was shooting it before me in front of my eyes and whatever object it shot at me would freeze in the place I remembered it being in.. happened repeatedly during the peak.. But is that really the full potential of salvia because I've heard experienced people get freaked the fuck out off this stuff and I've only done weed and alcohol.. I really didn't find it that scary, just fascinating.
Either way I'm gonna try it from a different vendor and see what results I get. Thanks for everyones responses.


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