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Re: 50-plus pounds of pot seized in Bloomingburg NY [Re: 76degrees]
    #5914461 - 07/30/06 09:00 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Since your already a criminal for growing 200 plants and might see Federal time anyways you might as well steal the electricity to make life easier. I have heard that the power company mainly checks for industrial/commercial places stealing electricity more so than residental and I have never heard of someone getting busted due the fact they were stealing power it is usually determined after the fact.

76 - I see your side of the argument as well.


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Re: 50-plus pounds of pot seized in Bloomingburg NY [Re: rawtoxic]
    #5914502 - 07/30/06 09:25 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I'm pretty sure "the cave" in Tennessee was discovered for stealing electricity. Though, that was a MUCH larger operation. Another point I would like to add is that if you are already doing something illegal, quite profitably, and you can afford the alternative means of electricity -then it seems stupid to jeopardize the op by doing more illegal things than necessary. And that's just on a level of reducing the odds you'll get nabbed. That's beside the moral argument I am making. I just think it's wrong on MANY levels. Sorry for going on... but I feel very strongly about repealing the stupid laws we have in this country. And I hate to see things cloud the issue like: Pot growers are energy stealers and contributing to climbing prices of electricity. And although that is not absolutely the truth, there is enough evidence to make that case blown out of proportion in the eyes of the public (by the lovely media of course). Thus, helping to ruin any chance of decriminaliztion. There is a lot of support these days promoting the benefits and beneficial properties of Marijuana. I would hate to see such a petty thing like thieving be it's downfall.


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Re: 50-plus pounds of pot seized in Bloomingburg NY [Re: 76degrees]
    #5914754 - 07/30/06 11:49 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Dude, dude, dude. You are not going to beat the prohibitionists through reason and common-sense. They will be forced to relinquish their illogical position by their peers one day. As rational legislators begin to put it all together the laws will be repealed.

Stealing power is simply a reaction of nescessity, to MJ being outlawed for those who wish to grow a big garden. Unless you wanna run a few generators and take an even bigger risk from the added noise and the need to expell the exhaust to the outdoors.

Stealing power is just another symptom of the drug war, just like all of the increased violence. It's all due to making something illegal that they have no possible way of eradicating.

Do people steal power to run breweries? No, that's because a brewery doesn't have to worry about its power use because alcohol is legal.

People are still going to have large grows, and power is going to continue to be stolen every day until the absurd laws are changed.


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Re: 50-plus pounds of pot seized in Bloomingburg NY [Re: THE KRAT BARON]
    #5914812 - 07/30/06 12:12 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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mattzdope said:
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Microcosmatrix said:
I'm gonna have to get me one of those 5000w grow lights! :rolleyes:

They never get the shit right, ever.




http://www.adorama.com/AR532505.html

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LOL, good 1

Them's not growlights tho. I think the highest HID wattage is 1,500w, and the lamps last under half as long as the 1,000w, so they arent common, or even made anymore.


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Re: 50-plus pounds of pot seized in Bloomingburg NY [Re: Microcosmatrix]
    #5915068 - 07/30/06 01:55 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Microcosmatrix, U make a good point. Tho, I still can't agree with you. We still can't justify the thieving. Generators could be placed in underground compartments to muffel the noise and could be subsidized by solar panels if they are doing an outdoor shed type thing.


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Re: 50-plus pounds of pot seized in Bloomingburg NY [Re: 76degrees]
    #5915077 - 07/30/06 01:58 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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We still can't justify the thieving.




I'd classify it as comandeering resources in time of war.  :grin:

I'm from the school that teaches that stealing power is too unacceptable of a risk**, but I wouldn't say it's morally wrong per se given the hostile climate we live in.

**They probably have bigger meters somewhere up the line tracking what's going out. If all of the little meters taken as a whole don't agree with the one big meter, an investigation will ensue.



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Re: 50-plus pounds of pot seized in Bloomingburg NY [Re: Microcosmatrix]
    #5917753 - 07/31/06 05:11 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I agree with you. All's fair in war. They want to call it a war and take POWs then they'll have to deal with the consequences.

I'm surprised that there aren't more booby traps set out for cops. It's OK to kill when you're at war. Everybody knows that. It's you or them, that's what makes it alright to use any means at your disposal.

It's just not smart to steal power though. It's a good way to get busted.


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