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Veritas

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Re: Having Some Balls [Re: leery11]
#5924717 - 08/02/06 08:24 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yes, shoes and music are optional, too. If you don't enjoy either, and don't want the benefits you gain from them (i.e. foot protection from shoes, relaxation or stimulation from music), you don't have to participate.
Challenging the idea that makeup and objectification are intrinsic parts of being female IS the same as challenging the idea that socialization and enculturation (is that a word?) are intrinsic parts of being human.
Can we remove ourselves from our programming? What are we without our assumed identity? What are the consequences of such revolution?
If we are born with the "wrong" body parts, can we opt to disagree with nature & plot our own course?
If we are born into a society which requires strict gender behaviors, can we opt to disagree & face social censure? This is a question which goes beyond transsexualism, as each of us faces societal pressure to conform to the behaviors which our society links to our equipment.
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Re: Having Some Balls [Re: Veritas]
#5924767 - 08/02/06 08:51 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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If we are born into a society which requires strict gender behaviors, can we opt to disagree & face social censure?
One time I was waiting to get on a plane and one of the passengers real name was Jan but he was dressed like Jane. I noticed he/she was having lots of trouble getting used to high heels and kept turning their ankles. The balding gray hair spoiled the effect at the top end as well. Others noticed and although you couldn't hear them snickering you knew they would be later.
So yes, we can "opt to disagree and face social censure."
The real issue is, what then? Keep facing social censure and develop a tough skin?
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Edited by LunarEclipse (08/02/06 08:52 AM)
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leery11
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it is rather hard to separate onself from their prescribed views upon their identity.
i just find it sad that little girls are dressing like they want to service you for money... i'm talking like 5 to 6 year old girls.
doesn't it disturb you to see them with knee high skirts just like you see potentially loose college girls wearing?
now this is unfair of me because some girls may dress that way, but have sexual values and moral standing but.... 
i find it so tasteless and ugly myself.
if you want to beautify yourself, it isn't done by fashion! underneath the skin and jewlery hidden in her words and eyes is a wall that's cold and ugly
-------------------- I am the MacDaddy of Heimlich County, I play it Straight Up Yo! ....I embrace my desire to feel the rhythm, to feel connected enough to step aside and weep like a widow, to feel inspired, to fathom the power, to witness the beauty, to bathe in the fountain, to swing on the spiral of our divinity and still be a human...... Om Namah Shivaya, I tell you What!
Edited by leery11 (08/02/06 09:58 AM)
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Re: Having Some Balls [Re: leery11]
#5924968 - 08/02/06 10:34 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Poster: leery11 Subject: Re: Having Some Balls
i just find it sad that little girls are dressing like they want to service you for money... i'm talking like 5 to 6 year old girls.
doesn't it disturb you to see them with knee high skirts just like you see potentially loose college girls wearing?
now this is unfair of me because some girls may dress that way, but have sexual values and moral standing but....
i find it so tasteless and ugly myself.
if you want to beautify yourself, it isn't done by fashion! underneath the skin and jewlery hidden in her words and eyes is a wall that's cold and ugly
Ugly, no, tasteless and inappropriate for a young girl to look like Jon Benet Ramsey, yes. The beauty queen moms are pretty twisted too, I saw a show on it and frankly those poor girls are getting a bad deal.
I mean what's ugly about any girl/woman other than the obvious bowsers in the crowd?
What I don't understand is when women dress sexy then get all uncomfortable when a guy tries to sneak a peek. You know the kind, they keep trying to cover up their breasts that the outfit they wear shows to the max. What's up with that?
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leery11
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You know the kind, they keep trying to cover up their breasts that the outfit they wear shows to the max. What's up with that?
----------------- forgive me for the following judgements, these are my obversvations but I do not intend to condemn young women: yeah i don't get that either. but then again i have pants that don't fit because of losing weight, so i'm always having to pull them up and hoping no one looks at me... maybe it's something similar. i could buy new pants, but why? new pants are expensive.... and i can just wear a belt when i remember to.
but ugly i do not mean in terms of physical nature, i mean in terms of how they presesnt themselves. if you stripped all that garbage off a girl and got her to resonate with her inner self, and put on something appropriate, beautiful, tasteful, interesting, compelling... she would be beautiful. she is ugly because she chooses to plaster herself in the cookie cutter sex-goddess garb, and it reflects her insecurity.
despite symmetry and general proportions of attraction, if a girl peresents herself that way, it's similar to walking around with a dunce cap on..... it really tarnishes any beauty she may have, because choosing to exploit her body and conform to what i think of as a deprave sense of low self esteem and a form of eye prostitution... it reflects who she is on the inside.
she's just an ipod toting everyone. while true, she deserves love, and i should withold judgement... and if i looked into her eyes i would surely find worth merits, for we're all human and have our wounds and flaws.... it is just that, you choose to sell an image to the world.... and if THAT is the image you choose to sell.... it says something about you as a person.
it doesn't mean i wouldn't necessarily be friends with them or try to get to know them, but i do view them as "ugly" whether they have a smoking hot body or not, because of the marks they are choosing to wear.
the team colors of the exploited and manipulated.
-------------------- I am the MacDaddy of Heimlich County, I play it Straight Up Yo! ....I embrace my desire to feel the rhythm, to feel connected enough to step aside and weep like a widow, to feel inspired, to fathom the power, to witness the beauty, to bathe in the fountain, to swing on the spiral of our divinity and still be a human...... Om Namah Shivaya, I tell you What!
Edited by leery11 (08/02/06 02:39 PM)
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Re: Having Some Balls [Re: leery11]
#5925354 - 08/02/06 12:54 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Somehow the comparison of you forgetting to wear a belt with a woman knowingly wearing something that shows her breasts to the max strikes me as funny. You hike up your pants rather than lose them in the supermarket, she tugs at her blouse pretending that it really wasn't her that chose to wear this revealing outfit. And quit staring, ya perv...
"the team colors of the exploited and manipulated"
What amazes me is that women/girls think that all the makeup, tattoos and piercings are sexy. Well OK a tongue piercing both revolts me on most levels and perhaps appeals to me on another level. Not so much the enhancement aspect, but just because she cares so much about the enhancement aspect. She's a superfreak she's superfreaky ya'll.
Then I go OMG what kind of freak would sit there while someone drove a freaking spike through their tongue? And this is for pleasure? What's next, a pierced nipple or clit? OMG they do that too???
Call me old fashioned but let's keep all that freaking metal out of the bedroom let alone in plain view like that tongue thing.
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leery11
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LunarEclipse said: Somehow the comparison of you forgetting to wear a belt with a woman knowingly wearing something that shows her breasts to the max strikes me as funny. You hike up your pants rather than lose them in the supermarket, she tugs at her blouse pretending that it really wasn't her that chose to wear this revealing outfit. And quit staring, ya perv...
hehe. well i don't think I do it to show off my goods. I think I do it because I am lazy and unconcerned with self-image. I just don't like when they are completely falling off though, that sucks.
i don't get piercings myself either..... it's a pretty silly thing to do I mean..... sure you look "cool" but so what.... do you need to look cool bad enough to poke something into your body? At least you could be like an African and elongate your neck or drag your earlobes super low, that would earn major "cool" points, but everyone has a piercing.... except me.
I'm becoming very conservative honestly as far as these trends go. This generation really is depraved... I feel like my role is that of an old man shaking my fist at these hooligans through the world wide web.
but i dunno. it's not a big deal if someone wants to get pierced, but it may make me a lot less likely to want to do things with them that would be rated tvMA.
but you know honestly a lot of the loving Christians here seem to have piercings, even sometimes tongue ones, and I'm almost positive they aren't kinky like that...... I know my male friend isn't, but he has a lip piercing for some reason.
this could lead to a tanget on "Christian Death Metal" ....
-------------------- I am the MacDaddy of Heimlich County, I play it Straight Up Yo! ....I embrace my desire to feel the rhythm, to feel connected enough to step aside and weep like a widow, to feel inspired, to fathom the power, to witness the beauty, to bathe in the fountain, to swing on the spiral of our divinity and still be a human...... Om Namah Shivaya, I tell you What!
Edited by leery11 (08/02/06 02:44 PM)
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