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I shot my new 12g
    #5905329 - 07/27/06 01:21 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

With 00bucks.OUCH

pistol grop shotties are suicide :machinegun:


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Re: I shot my new 12g [Re: buckwheat]
    #5905337 - 07/27/06 01:23 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Damn, sounds like quality entertainment. Out here people have tried to shoot them but it's considered a "residential area" or something, so the cops usually end up getting called.


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Re: I shot my new 12g [Re: buckwheat]
    #5905352 - 07/27/06 01:27 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Rifled slugs.


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Re: I shot my new 12g [Re: eris]
    #5905355 - 07/27/06 01:28 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Stupid law but there are some pretty stupid people out there.

Still no reason to have a designated neighborhood shooting range if it's rural enough.That would be awesome


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Re: I shot my new 12g [Re: buckwheat]
    #5905359 - 07/27/06 01:29 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah, most of the people that try to shoot walk deeo into the woods - where there is totally nothing in sight for a long ways, but complaints still end up getting filed usually. :shrug:


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Re: I shot my new 12g [Re: Konnrade]
    #5905360 - 07/27/06 01:30 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Do they kick more than buckshot?

Thats gotta suck.


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Re: I shot my new 12g [Re: buckwheat]
    #5905391 - 07/27/06 01:40 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Then why don't you shoot something cool and post us pics of the destruction?  :yesnod:


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Re: I shot my new 12g [Re: Asante]
    #5905440 - 07/27/06 01:54 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

No i was at the shooting range 2 miles from here.I live in yuppie hell and people would think armagedon was coming if they saw someone with a shotgun.

I wouldnt mind watching a watermelon or TV getting blown up though :smile2:


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Re: I shot my new 12g [Re: buckwheat]
    #5905461 - 07/27/06 02:02 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

rifled shotgun rounds? uhm.. well i have heard of rifled shotguns which shoot sabot rounds but you can't rifle a bullet or round, just think of the wording. Rifling is something is done to the barrel (usually 4 grooves that rotate once every 8-12" of the barrel) and in all this talk no one asks "what kinda pistol grip shotgun did you get" because when i see a gun post that is the FIRST thing on my mind.


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Re: I shot my new 12g [Re: buckwheat]
    #5905467 - 07/27/06 02:04 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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Do they kick more than buckshot?

Thats gotta suck.




I've never owned a shotgun, but slugs are noticeably more metal being thrown, and in the form of one solid madd being ejected from the gun all at once. So I would imagine they kick more.

Not to mention the fact that they're just about the only projectile from a gun that actually can destroy a padlock by shooting it like in movies and TV.


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Re: I shot my new 12g [Re: lesstutrey]
    #5905472 - 07/27/06 02:06 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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but you can't rifle a bullet or round




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Re: I shot my new 12g [Re: lesstutrey]
    #5905473 - 07/27/06 02:07 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Mossberg 590a1 it's not pistol grip. i said that cuz i cant imagine shooting a pistol grip with that kind of kick.


I wasnt the one that said something about rifled slugs.Im completly new to shotguns so i have no idea how that works.


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Re: I shot my new 12g [Re: buckwheat]
    #5907163 - 07/27/06 10:22 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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With 00bucks.OUCH





Its a good hurt though. If you go home after a day of shotgun target practice without a bloody shoulder, you were doing something wrong.

I love the 590a1, great shotgun.

And here are some other exotic shotgun ammos.

Avenger: Hollow steel balls with a low gunpowder load. Short range and low recoil, with low penetration. Could be useful in a situation requiring low penetration, such as home defense. Semi-nonlethal.
Bird Bombs: An explosive payload, which (in theory) detonates on impact. Roughly equivalent to an m80 firecracker.
Bolo: Two heavy slugs connected by piano wire. Was once known as the garrote slug. While impossible to aim, the wire becomes a very hazardous blade at muzzle velocity.
Bouncer: Two zytel (nylon) balls. High muzzle velocity, very low penetration. Semi-nonlethal, like rubber bullets.
Chain reaction: A 6-inch length of chain. Impacts in a rather random pattern.
Comet: A regular shotgun slug with a red tracer.
Detonator: Essentially, a hollow lead slug with an explosive tip. It's made with for the purpose of filling with your own explosive or other payload, which then detonates on impact.
Door buster: Tiny lead pellets, approaching lead dust. Impacts with full force, but over a larger area, with very little penetration.
Dragon's Breath: Yes, these really do exist, and yes, you can order them for $16.98 each. White phosphorous that ignites upon being shot. Creates a 100-yard flamethrower that burns for about three seconds. Contrary to popular belief, this does not damage a smooth-bore shotgun.
Fire siren: A small weighted whistle. Incredibly loud at muzzle velocity. Wear ear protection.
Flash bomb: Like the bird bomb, above, but using a flash-powder incendiary instead of an explosive one.
Flechette: A whole bunch of needles. High penetration.
Hammer: A bean-bag round; a nylon bag filled with tiny shot. High impact, but theoretically nonlethal.
Mini Missile: A solid lead slug with a steel core. The lead slug peels away on impact, driving the core through hard targets (like armor.)
Napalm: Like the Bird Bomb, above, but filled with white phosphorous, which burns very hot upon impact.
Pit Bull: Six big lead pelletes, and one big slug. Not that exotic, really.
Shredder: A lot of sharp tacks. Short range, but high trauma to flesh.
Smoke bomb: Essentially, the Dragon's Breath Round, only using a smoke powder instead.
Stinger: 16 zytel (nylon) balls. Essentially, the rubber bullet for shotguns. Semi-nonlethal.
Super flare: A shotgun-launched flare.


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Re: I shot my new 12g [Re: d33p]
    #5907226 - 07/27/06 10:41 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

d33p said:
Quote:

buckwheat said:
With 00bucks.OUCH






Dragon's Breath: Yes, these really do exist, and yes, you can order them for $16.98 each. White phosphorous that ignites upon being shot. Creates a 100-yard flamethrower that burns for about three seconds. Contrary to popular belief, this does not damage a smooth-bore shotgun.

Pit Bull: Six big lead pelletes, and one big slug. Not that exotic, really.





:eek:

Wher can you buy dragons breath?

pitbull sounds awesome too


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Re: I shot my new 12g [Re: buckwheat]
    #5907241 - 07/27/06 10:44 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I have a tactical 870 express 12 gauge for protection, and a browning gold hunter semi-auto 12 gauge that I use for birds.


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Re: I shot my new 12g [Re: Leanin]
    #5907280 - 07/27/06 10:56 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Rifled Slug = a bit bigger than .50 cal

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Re: I shot my new 12g [Re: buckwheat]
    #5907419 - 07/27/06 11:37 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I'm not sure of an online vendor, i always see adds for them in shotgun news though.


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Re: I shot my new 12g [Re: d33p]
    #5907442 - 07/27/06 11:44 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

d33p said:
Avenger: Hollow steel balls with a low gunpowder load. Short range and low recoil, with low penetration. Could be useful in a situation requiring low penetration, such as home defense. Semi-nonlethal.
Bird Bombs: An explosive payload, which (in theory) detonates on impact. Roughly equivalent to an m80 firecracker.
Bolo: Two heavy slugs connected by piano wire. Was once known as the garrote slug. While impossible to aim, the wire becomes a very hazardous blade at muzzle velocity.
Bouncer: Two zytel (nylon) balls. High muzzle velocity, very low penetration. Semi-nonlethal, like rubber bullets.
Chain reaction: A 6-inch length of chain. Impacts in a rather random pattern.
Comet: A regular shotgun slug with a red tracer.
Detonator: Essentially, a hollow lead slug with an explosive tip. It's made with for the purpose of filling with your own explosive or other payload, which then detonates on impact.
Door buster: Tiny lead pellets, approaching lead dust. Impacts with full force, but over a larger area, with very little penetration.
Dragon's Breath: Yes, these really do exist, and yes, you can order them for $16.98 each. White phosphorous that ignites upon being shot. Creates a 100-yard flamethrower that burns for about three seconds. Contrary to popular belief, this does not damage a smooth-bore shotgun.
Fire siren: A small weighted whistle. Incredibly loud at muzzle velocity. Wear ear protection.
Flash bomb: Like the bird bomb, above, but using a flash-powder incendiary instead of an explosive one.
Flechette: A whole bunch of needles. High penetration.
Hammer: A bean-bag round; a nylon bag filled with tiny shot. High impact, but theoretically nonlethal.
Mini Missile: A solid lead slug with a steel core. The lead slug peels away on impact, driving the core through hard targets (like armor.)
Napalm: Like the Bird Bomb, above, but filled with white phosphorous, which burns very hot upon impact.
Pit Bull: Six big lead pelletes, and one big slug. Not that exotic, really.
Shredder: A lot of sharp tacks. Short range, but high trauma to flesh.
Smoke bomb: Essentially, the Dragon's Breath Round, only using a smoke powder instead.
Stinger: 16 zytel (nylon) balls. Essentially, the rubber bullet for shotguns. Semi-nonlethal.
Super flare: A shotgun-launched flare.



those all sound incredibly awesome and crazy

do you have video of the "dragon's breath"


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Re: I shot my new 12g [Re: Pat Bateman, VP]
    #5907448 - 07/27/06 11:47 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

there's no google video of it :sad:


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Re: I shot my new 12g [Re: buckwheat]
    #5907464 - 07/27/06 11:51 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

buckwheat said:
With 00bucks.OUCH

pistol grop shotties are suicide :machinegun:




You need these.

12 GA. Armor Piercing
This awesome round houses enough power to penetrate the thickest car doors, commercial steel doors and most objects up to 1/4" steel plate. This slug has a steel penetrator button, boosted by a very hot charge, has an unbelievable velocity to slice through metal like a hot knife slices through butter.

Or some hollow point slugs ...

12 GA. Exploder
A stabilized, finned slug with a deep hollow core for loading combustible materials. The exploder round has curved finns in the rear of the slug for stability. Recent D.O.T. regulations require that the "Exploder" hollow cavity be shipped unloaded. This allows you to load the cavity yourself, safely with no tools required.


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Re: I shot my new 12g [Re: Terrapin77]
    #5907472 - 07/27/06 11:54 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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penetrate the thickest car doors, commercial steel doors and most objects up to 1/4" steel plate
velocity to slice through metal like a hot knife slices through butter.





because he'll really need to do that sometime
unless he's a bank robber, then by all means those would be necessary


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Re: I shot my new 12g [Re: Pat Bateman, VP]
    #5907480 - 07/27/06 11:58 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

I le magnifique said:
Quote:

Terrapin77 said:
penetrate the thickest car doors, commercial steel doors and most objects up to 1/4" steel plate
velocity to slice through metal like a hot knife slices through butter.





because he'll really need to do that sometime
unless he's a bank robber, then by all means those would be necessary




They'd still be fun to shoot at targets to see how much damage they can do. :smirk:


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Re: I shot my new 12g [Re: Terrapin77]
    #5907492 - 07/28/06 12:02 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

These sound cool aswell

12 GA. Pepper Blast
A shot that will bring tears to your eyes. This 12 gauge shell will spread a blast of cayenne pepper directly from the barrel of your gun, disabling your target and allowing you to get away or take control of the situation. A blinding blast of Cayenne pepper can make that unwanted pest think twice. 2.75” round

12 GA. Terminator-X
Upon impact, this slug mushrooms and expands to nearly 2 inches, stopping the slug from totally penetrating your objective. This rapid expansion forces the dozen of tiny pellets to spread through your objective like a cancerous disease, opening an area at the impact point equal to a softball! The cavity created has the shock effect of 95%! That means only 5% of any living being could survive this kind of hit. 2.75” round

12 Gauge "Double Slug"
One shot, Two hits! You will double the punch, the impact and the chance of hitting your target all in one shot! The 12 Gauge round is loaded with two slugs that weigh 3/4 of an ounce each. The recoil is a little heavier than a standard 12 Gauge load and so are the resutlts! At 25 yards the two slugs will strike your target about two inches apart. At 50 yards, the strike spreads to nearly a foot apart! Unbelievable twin knock-down power! 2.75" round.

12 Gauge "Pit Bull"
Pure Power! The Pit Bull is a powerful 12 gauge round packed with six 00-Buck pellets topped with a heavy-duty 1.3 oz. slug! Loaded extra hot for MAXIMUM stopping power! Once it bites, it won’t let go. This is the number one rated ammo for home and self defense.


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Re: I shot my new 12g [Re: Terrapin77]
    #5907777 - 07/28/06 02:02 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

who thinks of shit like cayenne pepper in shotgun shells :lol:


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Re: I shot my new 12g [Re: buckwheat]
    #5908007 - 07/28/06 04:53 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

YOU SHOOTING TARGETS ? IF SO WHAT KIND


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Re: I shot my new 12g [Re: Terrapin77]
    #5908135 - 07/28/06 06:37 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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12 GA. Pepper Blast
A shot that will bring tears to your eyes. This 12 gauge shell will spread a blast of cayenne pepper directly from the barrel of your gun




That will make you very popular at the indoor range :rotfl:

But seriously, are all these crazy loads really officially sold? It sounds crazy to me to legally sell shells that detonate on impact, approximating an M80 in force.

And one cartridge holding enough fuel for a 100ft (30 meter) 3 second flame? Thats horsie, I think somebody accidentally ended up on a Roleplaying game webpage. 30 meter x 3 seconds thats a liter of kerosene at least. The btu needed for such a flame simply cant be fit in a shotgun shell.


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Re: I shot my new 12g [Re: Asante]
    #5908565 - 07/28/06 10:39 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

All of the rounds i mentioned and also the ones Terrapin mentioned are for sale in many ads throughout shotgun news for sure. I've never personally bought any and tried them because you can't have them shipped to my state, but they are real.



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Re: I shot my new 12g [Re: d33p]
    #5908588 - 07/28/06 10:49 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

:shocked:


Man, you can have quite some fun with some of those but I can't imagine what'd happen if someone used an exploding shell against something living.. Or actually I can :sad:

BTW that thing throws a fireball across 30 meters, thats not the same as a sustained flame over three seconds.
Looks like something thought up by an ex-D&D Wizard :smirk:


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Re: I shot my new 12g [Re: Asante]
    #5908858 - 07/28/06 12:47 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

White phosphorous is man's best friend and worst enemy


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