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The secret weapon
    #5904920 - 07/27/06 10:44 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

against gnat's, fruit fly's, etc.


First line of defense.


Second line of defense
(any sticky type trap, or coil)

The SECRET WEAPON

VENUS FLY TRAP
A small pot/tray of these, inside large fruiting chambers.

They secrete a pheromone, or odor that attracts gnats.
Then, they trap, & eat the bastards. :grin: :thumbup:

Venus fly traps thrive in a mushroom fruiting environment.


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Re: The secret weapon [Re: Tippinthru]
    #5904925 - 07/27/06 10:47 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I tried venus flytraps when I had a gnat problem with some plants. The gnats are to small so they usually don't trigger the trap, or if they do they can just get out. Works well for normal size flies though. The bug zapper seems like a good idea though. How does it attract the gnats? I don't think gnats are attracted to light.


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Re: The secret weapon [Re: tallgreen]
    #5904931 - 07/27/06 10:49 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

REELWEESE, THE SECWWET WEAPOOON !


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Re: The secret weapon [Re: tallgreen]
    #5904978 - 07/27/06 11:05 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

True, often a gnat will not trigger the trap.

However, the gnats get stuck in the secretion, that baits the trap.

Another good gnat trap, is to evenly cut the top off a plastic soda bottle. Pour 1/2 inch of wine in the bottom of the container. Then invert the top, up-side-down & stuff it back in the container like a funnel.

The gnat's are attracted by the wine, go down the funnel, then most often DROWN in the wine :grin:


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Re: The secret weapon [Re: Tippinthru]
    #5904981 - 07/27/06 11:08 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

they also like Coke(Coca-Cola)

and if they get really bad...

nuke the whole fucking area with a bug bomb!~

lolzz

2 years ago I had to nuke my house!~

:crazy:



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Re: The secret weapon [Re: Roadkill]
    #5905105 - 07/27/06 11:52 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

>>>>>2 years ago I had to nuke my house!~

My significant other has told me about just such horrors :eek: :mad2: :sad:


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Re: The secret weapon [Re: Roadkill]
    #5905156 - 07/27/06 12:21 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

You must have a big microwave  :grin:

LOL,  :rolleyes:


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Re: The secret weapon [Re: Roadkill]
    #5905186 - 07/27/06 12:30 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

my gnat infestation is getting lower, but after each session of dead trays, i just take my greenhouse outside and give it a washski. I find that one of these works well.



this should be done anyway... but the fly trap is a great idea. They say gnats are attracted to dead gnats, so sitting on the sticky dying will cause more to come to trigger the fly trap.

as for the zapper... does this really work, have you had experience with seeing dead gnats under the light? I will surly try anything i can


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Re: The secret weapon [Re: Oatman2000]
    #5905223 - 07/27/06 12:46 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

The ZAPPER----------> WORKS :grin:GREAT.

Set it on a large piece of white paper.
Leave it on, all night, in a dark gnat infested area, or room.

In the morning, you will see ZAPPED gnat parts - all over the paper.

They can OFTEN be found in thrift stores CHEAP. :thumbup: :wink:


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Re: The secret weapon [Re: Tippinthru]
    #5905242 - 07/27/06 12:53 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

no my thrift stores... they all suck, and have nothing. but for gnat controll i wouldn't mind spending the cheeze to buy a new one.


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Re: The secret weapon [Re: Oatman2000]
    #5905259 - 07/27/06 01:00 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

IMO, well worth the investment.

It's cool too.

You can HEAR it work.

When you hear it go ZAPPPPPPP :eek:

You KNOW it just killed one, or several of the bastards.

You GRIN in satisfaction, each time you hear that sound. :grin:


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Re: The secret weapon [Re: Tippinthru]
    #5905285 - 07/27/06 01:09 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Just distill some brandy and leave it out... the fucking things drink till they die.. never seemed to happen with my vodka i made though :undecided:


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Re: The secret weapon [Re: Weebl8bob]
    #5906139 - 07/27/06 05:30 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

You guys GREATLY underestimate the TRUE value of a clapping gnat fight...  :tongue2: :box:

-SDP :bigblunt:


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Re: The secret weapon [Re: SDP]
    #5906161 - 07/27/06 05:39 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

i use chopsticks..

...seriously though, do they get inside the shrooms???


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Re: The secret weapon [Re: shroomsynergy]
    #5906741 - 07/27/06 08:25 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Gnats lay eggs in the substrate.
The eggs hatch, and turn into larva.
The larva are like tiny MAGGOTS.

The tiny maggots, eat mycelium, and burrow into mushroom fruit bodies.

The larva hatches into more gnats.

The cycle repeats itself, each time creating MORE GNATS.

From the Contam FAQ.

Fungus gnats (Sciarids) (Lycoriella spp.) and phorids (Megaselia spp.)

Adults are small (1/8 inch long), fragile grayish to black flies with long, slender legs and thread-like antennae. Their wings are clear or smoky-colored with no pattern and few distinct veins. Larvae are clear to creamy-white and can grow to about 1/4 inch long. They have shiny black head capsules.
They are attracted to the mushroom crop and their larvae feed directly on mycelium, swarm over the mushroom, and tunnel into the developing or developed mushroom. Tissues that have been physically damaged by flies often become colonized by bacteria which cause soft rot, thereby accentuating the problem. Controls include strict sanitation and general farm hygiene. For example, the grow room must be air tight. Fresh air that is used is filtered. Even a small crack will serve as an entry for the flies. Most farms use sticky tape or some other method that allows monitoring of populations. A biocontrol using nematodes offers effective control when populations of flies are low. In addition to the damage which fly larvae cause by eating mushroom mycelium or killing pins, the adults also carry diseases such as Verticillium, Mycogone and Cobweb.

http://www.shroomery.org/index.php/par/23418


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Re: The secret weapon [Re: Tippinthru]
    #5906943 - 07/27/06 09:18 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

a vacuum cleaner works great... just suck those fuckers up!


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Re: The secret weapon [Re: liamtheloser]
    #5907258 - 07/27/06 10:51 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

uhh.. fruit flies dont do that do they? If they do.. can they lay eggs in a vermiculite barrier such as that in the PF Tek?

Oh and my appologies the wine/brandy/alcohol thing was already posted.. Sorry :cool:


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Re: The secret weapon [Re: Weebl8bob]
    #5909457 - 07/28/06 04:16 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

it's funny, i got some of those bastards in my PanCyan crop. they were all over the colonized Hpoo, but i never found a single larvae in any of the PanCyan fruits. i carefully disected tquite a few shrooms, and never found even a half of 1 larvae. i dont think that they liked my PanCyans...... ....it's ok, cause i LOVE em'!!!

...thats funny shit!!!!!


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Re: The secret weapon [Re: shroomsynergy]
    #5909521 - 07/28/06 04:50 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

i have tried a vaccume... but there are soo many! :dogpile:


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Re: The secret weapon [Re: Oatman2000]
    #5909568 - 07/28/06 05:11 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

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i have tried a vaccume... but there are soo many! :dogpile:




Get a bigger vacuum  :rolleyes:


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Re: The secret weapon [Re: Tippinthru]
    #5909702 - 07/28/06 06:07 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Holy Kaza-whumpus Batman!

Where did that old thing come from? lemme take a wild guess???

a.)-Thrift store, old janitor vaccume
b.)-Thrift store, old janitor vaccume
c.)-Thrift store, old janitor vaccume

I'm gonna go with (C)?


Got any stats on that puppy?


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Re: The secret weapon [Re: Oatman2000]
    #5909709 - 07/28/06 06:09 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

D - pawn shop, old janitor vaccume

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Re: The secret weapon [Re: EquilibriuM]
    #5909728 - 07/28/06 06:19 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

It is my significant others, shop vac.

He bought it at an auction, for $20.

It came from a hotel maintenance shop.

It will suck up 40 lbs of wbs, spilled h/poo, marbles, nut, bolts, panty hose, mice, or whatever gets in its way. :grin:


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Re: The secret weapon [Re: Tippinthru]
    #5909786 - 07/28/06 06:58 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Tippinthru said:
against gnat's, fruit fly's, etc.


First line of defense.


Second line of defense
(any sticky type trap, or coil)

The SECRET WEAPON

VENUS FLY TRAP
A small pot/tray of these, inside large fruiting chambers.

They secrete a pheromone, or odor that attracts gnats.
Then, they trap, & eat the bastards. :grin: :thumbup:

Venus fly traps thrive in a mushroom fruiting environment.




Holy shiiit! I'm getting a venus fly trap now, they're like $20.00 at walmart...

What is there life span?


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Re: The secret weapon [Re: beatnicknick]
    #5910433 - 07/28/06 10:41 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

$20?!?!?! Shit man.. I only payed $5 lol


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Re: The secret weapon [Re: Tippinthru]
    #5918976 - 07/31/06 03:53 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Get a bigger vacuum  :rolleyes:





....hell yea!!!

Actually, i just bought some Gnatrol, and put it in a spray bottle at about 1tsp Gnatrol to 1 pint water, and sprayed the surfaces (careful not to spray fruits) and cut them by about 75% in 2 days. at this rate i think that i can re-apply every other day and have them almost extinct in a week!!!!  i sprayed one mushroom just for an experiment and it had no wilt, or deformity. i think that it wont effect fruits if sprayed!!! (at least not unless your TRYING to fuck them up)

WOOOOHOOO!!!!!!  :thumbup: :thumbup: :mushroom2: :mushroom2: :mushroom2:


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