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#5904389 - 07/27/06 04:37 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Now don't laugh! Demonic possession and exorcism are as old as time it self.
It started long time ago, boy this things been riding here for a while now
I managed to loose the possessing demon briefly several times during the last 3 years but it always re attached itself to me. Possession happens thro a trauma memory called core images which are hidden in your psyche / subconscious memory.
Anyone interested in the subject should read a book called Psychic Self Defence by Australian mystic Robert Bruce.
Wikipedia has this to say about exorcism:
Exorcism is the practice of evicting demons or other evil spiritual entities which are supposed to have possessed (taken control of) a person or object. The practice is quite ancient and still part of the belief system of many religions. The person performing the exorcism, known as an exorcist, is often a priest, or an individual thought to be graced with special powers or skills. The exorcist may use religious material, such as prayers and set formulas, gestures, symbols, icons, amulets, etc.. The exorcist often invokes some benign supernatural power to actually perform the task.
Now my possession is not full blown, that is the demon can not control me physically, it can only overshadow my mind and feed me telepathic information.
However ive had enough of this and im frankly gagging to get rid of it.
The demon is very ancient and powerful. It can take many forms, but one time when I was on some potent ayahuasca, I could see my whole body shapeshift , my legs turned into demonic bull like legs and so did my arms.
So if anyone has any skills or hidden talents bring them out and lets banish the thing back where it came from.
The rest of you say a prayer and smoke a joint
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Re: Exorcism [Re: Jalruza]
#5904393 - 07/27/06 04:40 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I,m not sure if I believe it it or not. But if you havent seen the movie, The Exorcism of Emilie Rose, give it a watch.
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Re: Exorcism [Re: rod]
#5904399 - 07/27/06 04:45 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ohhhhh yeah ive seen the movie the exorcist good shit, i read the book too, i like the priests in there
That possession was a full blown one, where the demon had full control, it was also brief in nature
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Re: Exorcism [Re: Jalruza]
#5904413 - 07/27/06 05:09 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Demonic possession and exorcism are as old as time it self.
but that doesn't mean it's true. personally I don't believe in possession.
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Possession happens thro a trauma memory called core images which are hidden in your psyche / subconscious memory.
sounds more like post traumatic stress disorder to me (PTSD). very intense experiences can have a big influence in your thinking patterns and memories of certain events can pop up without being able to cntrol it. doens't have anyhting to do with possession.
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Now my possession is not full blown, that is the demon can not control me physically, it can only overshadow my mind and feed me telepathic information.
Now what you need is a 'modern exorcist', a psychiatrist. Seriously.
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Re: Exorcism [Re: stefan]
#5904438 - 07/27/06 05:39 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Haha , hes got all the answers.
Ever heard of Astral Projection?
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Re: Exorcism [Re: Jalruza]
#5904446 - 07/27/06 05:48 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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you mean the goatrance act astral projection? sure, I know them
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Re: Exorcism [Re: stefan]
#5904451 - 07/27/06 05:54 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Are they any good?
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Re: Exorcism [Re: ivi]
#5904465 - 07/27/06 06:07 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Dude i was talking about act of astral projection not the music band
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Re: Exorcism [Re: stefan]
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Re: Exorcism [Re: Seuss]
#5904480 - 07/27/06 06:18 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah i heard that
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Re: Exorcism [Re: Jalruza]
#5904485 - 07/27/06 06:29 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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" Only after 20 to 30 performances of the ancient ritual of exorcism, here and in St. Louis, was the devil finally cast out of the boy, it was said.
In all except the last of these, the boy broke into a violent tantrum of screaming"
The way these things work, demons they find certain things very repuslive, things such as holy/religious icons and words and prayers and stuff. Holy water, or just being near a priest drives demons mad or at the very least makes them uncomfortable.
I remember many years back when i first discovered the demon was present, i used to "experiement" with it , sort of trying to get to know better what im dealing with.
I drunk ayahuasca one time, and when my energy was high my whole body shape shifted into this demon, particulary my hands. When i looked at my hands the didnt look human but appeared very ugly looking "chicken leg" demonic hands. Very ugly demonic hands as ugly and as demonic as you can imagine. I might drink some aya one day again and then draw pictures of it.
Anyway, what i did, i used one of counter measure written in the Psychic Self Defence book. I used a pen to write name Jesus on my hand.
You should see these hands, they ducked from me, away from the pen! I put my left hand on the table and pressed it, as i started moving pen towards it the hand became flat trying to move away from the pen. WHen i started writing Jesus on it i could see stange things happening to it, as it shivered, it lost color , darkened, became sort of lifeless.
It didnt go well for this demon, still it wasnt enough to exorcise it.
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Re: Exorcism [Re: Jalruza]
#5904494 - 07/27/06 06:39 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Once when I was triping on shrooms my hands started growing long nails and hairs and became the hands of a werewolf
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Re: Exorcism [Re: Jalruza]
#5904503 - 07/27/06 06:47 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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This thing can materialise in day light without any drugs.
But this particular demon is interested in long term possession so its not very keen to harry in whatever its doing.
The best way to study it is to take some form of DMT, or psilocibin but DMT works better. That way i can tune in and sense it very easily.
(pls dont ask for drugs thanks)
Together we could study this thing very well. Maybe i could come down to one of the gatherings and take some dmt and then show some manifestations there?
Anyway, Psychic Self Defence has this to say about demons:
"Negs ("negatives" or deomons) come in many different types, with various strengths and weaknesses, likes and dislikes, needs, desires and perversions, natural and learned. Some are predatory loners and opportuniststic parasites. Higher emotions like love mercy and compassion are alien concepts to them. They have huge egos and one track minds: they exist to feed, corrupt, use and control.
Direct psychic attack is, unfortunately, only a part of of the problem. Often starting in the human host's early childhood, the first psychic attacks usually ease off once the Neg involved has formed an attachemnt with its new victim. Typically, hypnotic and psychological conditioning devices are used to prepare each new biological host, so its more useful and obedient to the will of the new resident Neg. This involves the implantation of psychological roots, through core images and energy body attachments. These devices eventaully sprout unnatural fears, phobias, desires, and urges within otheriwse healthy human minds."
"While gererally denied in the West, possession is widley acknowledged in many other areas of the world such as India, Asia and Africa."
On the subject of demons:
"Demons is the common term used to describe the higher orders of negs (negs: non organic beings such as negative entities and demons). These are unlike other Negs in that they are far more ancient, intelligent, poweful, and evil. In a way, true demons are dark angels. Some demons are simply demons, some are fallen angels. Like angels demons have a hierarchical ranking and a demonic "aristocracy" in which strong demons rule as princes of darkness and command all the lesser deomns.
The most widely agreed upon hierarchical ranking for demons goies like this: kings, dukes, princes and prelates, marquises, presidents, earls and counts, knights."
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Re: Exorcism [Re: Jalruza]
#5904568 - 07/27/06 07:50 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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demonic bull
I don't think you're posessed by a demon but rather obsessed by a demon. Sometimes people need to be told to "snap out of it", and it looks like this time it's your turn.
You might not see things too clearly at the moment.
I think getting psychological help is the best road to take here, should it turn out you are truly posessed the doc can always chime in the Catholics.
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Re: Exorcism [Re: Jalruza]
#5904585 - 07/27/06 08:12 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Catholic exorcisms are commonly known to be ineffective, many priests have admitted in interviews that problems have resumed as strong as ever a certain time after the exorcism is performed. The supposed solution is that multiple exorcisms are required, which works just fine for the catholic church. More exorcisms means more fees to collect, and the Catholic church has centuries of documented and verified history in exploiting people for financial gain.
Exorcisms are superstition that the church has a motivation to encourage. I n all honesty the problem is most likely psychological, which means the specialist that is needed is not a priest, but a psychologist or psychiatrist.
naturally it's more convenient to assume that the problem isn't you. this is a very basic psychological tendency in people, in order to avoid admitting it's their own problem, they construct evidence around a delusion that protects their own image of themselves. The end result being that they just fuck themself over even worse than before.
It can't hurt to see a specialist, there are no religious reasons to avoid doing so.
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Re: Exorcism [Re: Asante]
#5904591 - 07/27/06 08:14 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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demonic bull
I don't think you're posessed by a demon but rather obsessed by a demon. Sometimes people need to be told to "snap out of it", and it looks like this time it's your turn.
You might not see things too clearly at the moment.
I think getting psychological help is the best road to take here, should it turn out you are truly posessed the doc can always chime in the Catholics.
i agree .
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Re: Exorcism [Re: stefan]
#5914567 - 07/30/06 10:13 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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stefan said: Once when I was triping on shrooms my hands started growing long nails and hairs and became the hands of a werewolf
You dont know a word what im talking about do you?
Since none of you except for Shroomism are capable of simple act of astral projection i will explain.
When you project in the astral, you leave your physical body and you have your etheric astral body. If you look at your hands in this state, what should happen, they melt away like ice under torch. If there is a possessing entity, they do not melt, they take form of that possessing entity.
Its a funny thing what kind of effect same post can have on different message boards. I dont know really why i posted it here , resposnes are a bit weird and not very interesting. Could have been a great post on ICMag if gypsy didnt delete it
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Re: Exorcism [Re: Jalruza]
#5914577 - 07/30/06 10:22 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Are you sure they were demon hands? Sounds more like you're possessed by a troll.
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Be quiet this is a serious discussion on demonology. Got nothing interesting to say - stay out.
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Re: Exorcism [Re: Jalruza]
#5914597 - 07/30/06 10:32 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Jalruza said: Be quiet this is a serious discussion on demonology. Got nothing interesting to say - stay out.
Sorry, my inner demon made me post that.
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Re: Exorcism [Re: Jalruza]
#5914600 - 07/30/06 10:34 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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demons come for a reason and stay for a reason...
why has it come and why does it stay....
if one fears or is obsessed with possesion possesers will come to him...
people have karma upon karma... many things are past life debts... when the debt is warn out it will be harder for these things to stay...
don't fear them and try to be a good person... don't do disgusting things that they enjoy. Stop paying attention to them too... I'm sure they love it.
Demons exist but they are nothing to one righteous thought.
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Don't worry. Jalruza is a ridiculous idiot, anyway. Totally useless.
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blissedout said: Don't worry. Jalruza is a ridiculous idiot, anyway. Totally useless.
Yeah, it's just lame that people are still stuck in the dark ages with regards to mental illness. Instead of doing something productive to help themselves they blame it on a demon and continue in their misery. Which I guess is all part of the mental illness in the first place. The problem is that it gives the next disturbed person some reinforcement in their own delusions.

Hopefully the OP gets help, one way or another. I can't imagine living life thinking I'm possessed by some evil spirit.
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Re: Exorcism [Re: Jalruza]
#5914613 - 07/30/06 10:40 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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"Demon possessed" was also the label many of the mentally ill received before we came to know more about the mind.
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Re: Exorcism [Re: Organic]
#5914614 - 07/30/06 10:41 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Organic said: "Demon possessed" was also the label many of the mentally ill received before we came to know more about the mind.
Yeah and the "cure" was torture and execution. Nice, huh?
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SOme of you titbags think that what Jesus did during his life, he didnt exorcise demons he just cured mental instability , yeah right
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Re: Exorcism [Re: Jalruza]
#5914631 - 07/30/06 10:46 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Jalruza said: SOme of you titbags think that what Jesus did during his life, he didnt exorcise demons he just cured mental instability , yeah right
That's making the assumption that I believe Jesus was anything more than a man, if he existed at all. But for all I know he might have been a really caring person who counseled troubled people.
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Re: Exorcism [Re: Jalruza]
#5914633 - 07/30/06 10:46 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Oh god, here we go.
This should be moved to SAP, now.
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Re: Exorcism [Re: Jalruza]
#5914634 - 07/30/06 10:47 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Jesus is man of legend. He may have actually existed, but the tales of Jesus are no different than the mythological Thor or Odin.
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Now, that's taking it a little too far. Thor and Odin were mythological gods, whereas Jesus was an actual person.
EDIT-You're right. I just read that wrong.
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Re: Exorcism [Re: 888]
#5914656 - 07/30/06 10:59 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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888 said: demons come for a reason and stay for a reason...
why has it come and why does it stay....
if one fears or is obsessed with possesion possesers will come to him...
people have karma upon karma... many things are past life debts... when the debt is warn out it will be harder for these things to stay...
don't fear them and try to be a good person... don't do disgusting things that they enjoy. Stop paying attention to them too... I'm sure they love it.
Demons exist but they are nothing to one righteous thought.
This guy speaks words of wisdom
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Re: Exorcism [Re: Jalruza]
#5915517 - 07/30/06 04:24 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Jalruza said: SOme of you titbags think that what Jesus did during his life, he didnt exorcise demons he just cured mental instability , yeah right
I beleive in Jesus... but he excorcised demons that were doing a hell of a lot more than just making people act like a jerk. Demonic posessions didn't just have annoying symptoms, they devastated people's lives, made them invalids, or turned them into feral beasts.
You're not posessed, you're delusional and you're trying to blame your problems on things that aren't your fault. You could waste money on exorcisms (assuming someone would even bother giving you one), or you could actually get the kind of help that you need.
Furthermore, quit being an asshole to everyone who gives an answer that you don't like, you child.
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Re: Exorcism [Re: Jalruza]
#5915678 - 07/30/06 05:16 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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So were the rascals actually demonic beings?
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Re: Exorcism [Re: Jalruza]
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Re: Exorcism [Re: Amatoxin]
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Re: Exorcism [Re: Jalruza]
#5916171 - 07/30/06 07:47 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Another awesome thread from Jalruza.
Get those motherfucking demons out of my motherfucking body!
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Re: Exorcism [Re: Jalruza]
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Just thought I'd throw this out there because drugs and demons are being mentioned in the same post... Ever heard of a psychotic break?
While this is an interesting read, I fail to see any science behind this at all...
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"Demonic posessions didn't just have annoying symptoms, they devastated people's lives, made them invalids, or turned them into feral beasts."
Dude! Your talking about the extreem end of the possession. 95 % of it is NOT like that and gets swept under the carpet and people like you never even hear about it 
"You're not posessed, you're delusional" and "Just thought I'd throw this out there because drugs and demons are being mentioned in the same post... Ever heard of a psychotic break?"
Demons started waaaaaaaaay before any drugs have been sampled by this person 
Lets imagine for a minute baby Konnrade, when he was around 2 years old, safely napping in his bed. Crispy sheet, teddy bears, night lights. Mammy says goodnight. Then around 2 am baby Konnrade dreams about visiting a cookie factory with his daddy... only half way thro the dream something else starts to happen, at first its just a cold graveyard atmosphere that floods his room ( and only can be sensed by a sensetive adult if he was there to witness it ). Then baby Konnrade starts feeling cold shivvers and before he knows something cold stabs him in his feet, never mind he is still dreaming of chasing that double chokolate cookie in his dream... but the cold pricking continues and grows in intensity, before he knows it became really painfull and baby Konnrade is about to start crying .... only he cant... whatever it was that came thro his energy points in feet, has now worked thro his autonomous nerve system and paralaised poor baby Konnrade! He is now dissasociated from his body and can not feel or move it. He is then dropped into a dark foul smelling void, he starts sensing that something really foul and dark is building up around him. He is powerless to do anything about it and in terror he exposes his all natural defences and lays them down exposing his psyche. What happens next, his psyche gets raped with virtual reality / drug induced full blown hallucination like quality in ways that would make cases of child molestation and domestic violence on earth look like walk in the park.
Shortly after he is released from paralyses, his whole body is as tense as vitnams war vets during psychich release sessions, hes whole body is covered in sweat, he throws into wild uncontrollable crying and even when his mother finds him running into his room he is anable to speak and breath properly and move for the next few hours and needs to be sat with comforting.
The same treatement continues from age 1 - 4.
And then stops. Whatever was doing it has finished breaking down energy body defences and now successfully attached itself to the persons psyche.
Its all influence stop. It waits until baby Knnordae gorws into adult while integrating and changing things such as his personality and sexuality. Althought no more night terrors are felt, there is no need for them, Konnrades problems have only just begun.....
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Re: Exorcism [Re: Jalruza]
#6093199 - 09/23/06 12:59 PM (17 years, 4 months ago) |
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There is a reason the devil has cloven feet.. it's because he's a scapegoat. Mental illness is bad enough without trying to sensationalize it as demonic possession. Plus by doing so you preclude any legitimate treatment that might help the person.
I'm not saying demonic possession isn't possible, I can't say I have enough information to make a decisive judgement on that. But based on the information, knowledge and experience I do have I would recommend at least trying the modern medical approach to mental illness before going off the deepend. It makes no sense to go from zero to head-spinning without getting help before then.
Or if you truly believe you are possessed, hey maybe it's a bi-polar demon that needs to be medicated?
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My advice:
See a psychologist... you're not going to listen to this because you don't want to regard this concept with an open mind. Which is odd for a tripper.... Give it a chance.
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Re: Exorcism [Re: sysD]
#6093239 - 09/23/06 01:13 PM (17 years, 4 months ago) |
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What are you TALKING about?
I already see reguraly THREE different psychologist, what is your point?
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unbeliever
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Re: Exorcism [Re: Jalruza]
#6093243 - 09/23/06 01:15 PM (17 years, 4 months ago) |
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Jalruza said: What are you TALKING about?
I already see reguraly THREE different psychologist, what is your point?
What do they say about your possession theory? I'm curious as to how each reacted to it.
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unbeliever said: There is a reason the devil has cloven feet.. it's because he's a scapegoat. Mental illness is bad enough without trying to sensationalize it as demonic possession. Plus by doing so you preclude any legitimate treatment that might help the person.
I'm not saying demonic possession isn't possible, I can't say I have enough information to make a decisive judgment on that. But based on the information, knowledge and experience I do have I would recommend at least trying the modern medical approach to mental illness before going off the deep end. It makes no sense to go from zero to head-spinning without getting help before then.
Or if you truly believe you are possessed, hey maybe it's a bi-polar demon that needs to be medicated?
I agree with that.. I am not totally against the fact that Demons could enter a person if they wanted to.. There are things out there we do not understand, nor do we want to..
But allot of exorcisms over the years are false, and can be related to mental illness, or the power of suggestion. Hence the Salem witch trials where people were accused of being in league, or possessed by the devil, and were killed..
Have there been true cases.. Sure.. Do i believe that its as easy as any devil just popping into you.. Then i think that would totally make a higher good Creator totally useless..
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I didnt tell my shrinks anything about the demons to be honest... i know there is no need to its outside of their field and they cant do anything about it
Heck even the most seasoned spiritual healers and mystics not always are able to excorcise enities in one go, let alone shrinks.
There are 4 levels of health i distinguish when it comes to healing:
Physical Mental and emotional Etheric Spiritual
Modern medicine so far can only deal with the first two. They do not know / nor recognise the upper two levels and that is where my problems are.
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Re: Exorcism [Re: rod]
#6095105 - 09/24/06 07:22 AM (17 years, 4 months ago) |
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ayahuasca you say? iv never heard much about the use of this..
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Re: Exorcism [Re: Jalruza]
#6095654 - 09/24/06 12:42 PM (17 years, 4 months ago) |
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unbeliever said:
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Jalruza said: What are you TALKING about?
I already see reguraly THREE different psychologist, what is your point?
What do they say about your possession theory? I'm curious as to how each reacted to it.
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Jalruza said: I didnt tell my shrinks anything about the demons to be honest... i know there is no need to its outside of their field and they cant do anything about it.
My point is that you're wasting your money at those three shrinks if you're holding back and not even trying to address your problem. They can't help you if you lie to them. I think it's a bit cowardly to not tell them, assuming you really want to be helped. I think you're afraid that your "demons" are something more mundane (though just as serious) like a known mental disorder. Because then you're just someone who has some issues that need to be worked through. You're not longer this "special" person infested with otherwordly beings.
That may sound harsh, but man, if you really truly want to get better and have a chance at a happier life you should fully disclose everything that's on your mind to your psychologists. They're there to help you but you have to meet them half way. Give it a shot, if they react in a way you don't like.. stop going to them and try to find someone who will work with you on it. Just don't be a pussy and hide it from the people who can help you so you can keep crowing about your demonic possession on some message board.
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Some of them cant be saved . . .
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BuddahKillah said: Some of them cant be saved . . .
Which is not an excuse to quit trying.
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people who belive in deamons are uneducated and dumb.. i'm not even gonna bother expand on that, you should be smart enough to know already.
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Re: Exorcism [Re: grphish]
#6096549 - 09/24/06 07:08 PM (17 years, 4 months ago) |
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grphish said: people who belive in deamons are uneducated and dumb.. i'm not even gonna bother expand on that, you should be smart enough to know already.
The hubris of inflexibly declarative thought tends to discredit any self-avowed intellect.
Just sayin'
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"My point is that you're wasting your money at those three shrinks"
Dude, all of my shrikns are state paid. There free! In fact im on my way to see one now.
" you should fully disclose everything that's on your mind to your psychologists"
Dude, read my other post, demonology is simply outside of their field of knowdldge and understanding
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Re: Exorcism [Re: Jalruza]
#6110394 - 09/28/06 07:48 AM (17 years, 4 months ago) |
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Jalruza said: "My point is that you're wasting your money at those three shrinks"
Dude, all of my shrikns are state paid. There free! In fact im on my way to see one now.
Great, so you're wasting my money on shrinks. Jackass.
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Jalruza said: "you should fully disclose everything that's on your mind to your psychologists"
Dude, read my other post, demonology is simply outside of their field of knowdldge and understanding
And that last statement allows you to comfortably remain in your fantasy life of demonic possession. If you're so sure you'd be more willing to test it in the face of logic (not to mention compassion and understanding that the doctors could likely offer as well). You don't want to be helped, that much is obvious. I hope for your sake that one day your desire to change and become healthy outweighs your need for attention. Good luck.
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Re: Exorcism [Re: Jalruza]
#6111642 - 09/28/06 02:01 PM (17 years, 4 months ago) |
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Jalruza said: Dude, read my other post, demonology is simply outside of their field of knowdldge and understanding
In other words, you're trying to avoid the issue with them.
Don't delude yourself into thinking that what is going on inside of your head is something that you are more qualified to understand than a doctor of psychology or pschiatry is. That's foolish, it's not good for you, and it's also more than a little arrogant.
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Re: Exorcism [Re: Konnrade]
#6111878 - 09/28/06 02:52 PM (17 years, 4 months ago) |
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Dude I know what your talking about, I've hallucinated demons before myself, and I've seen some very odd things,
but the thing is you should never relinquish power to such things, because it is partly a self-conjured creation that exists within your mind
Demons cannot hurt you, they can only influence you to hurt yourself, which means you have to believe in them, which is not what we're here for, I'm sure its really neat and interesting, but such delusions can lead you to harm yourself,
but its all self-induced in a sense, you don't realize it, its partly real, but its partly not, its semi-real is what it is, but its real simply to not be effected, and thats not acknowledging them, thats what they want, they want there existence acknowledged,
you got to understand Satan was made in the image of a lie, of delusion, of trickery, deception, your not suppose to authenticate him, if you do, your only relinquishing your power to a lie, its hard to explain, but its true,
also exorcism you see on t.v. documentaries are the silliest and most ridiculous stuff I ever seen, those people are straight up acting, their acting out a role, partly because they want to, their relinquishing their will to Satan, but its a joke, because they believe what there doing is real, they have fooled themselves, and that is the trickery that Satan does, because he does nothing but plant false ideas into your head, if you want the demons to go away,
its simple, don't believe in them, acknowledge their existence, don't be interested in them, don't understand their magic, or their powers, don't believe in their false promises, Yes they can even bribe you to follow them, but see if you give into such notions, it will only lead you down the wrong road,
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Re: Exorcism [Re: Jalruza]
#6112025 - 09/28/06 03:45 PM (17 years, 4 months ago) |
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Exercising demons only makes them stronger.
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Re: Exorcism [Re: Jalruza]
#6112047 - 09/28/06 03:51 PM (17 years, 4 months ago) |
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I didnt read everything people said, but you need to stop doing drugs. There is a fine line between what you can handle mentally and what you cant handle. You my friend, have crossed that line. It may FEEL like you are possessed, you may THINK you see yourself shapeshifting, but you arent. Possession does not exist nor has it ever existed. People just have defective brains. I would advise you to lay off any type of drug (including alcohol and reefer) and go into a long rejuvination period. Keep seeing a psychologist if you have one, and deal with yourself as a person not as a "demon."
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"I would advise you to lay off any type of drug (including alcohol and reefer)"
NEVER!!!
Ohh and to others thanks for your support, exorcism can be real , its basically having godly holy vibes around you which negative spirits find extreemle repulsive. Im on it. Im also working with few noble mystics and healers on this.
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Re: Exorcism [Re: Jalruza]
#6115328 - 09/29/06 12:13 PM (17 years, 4 months ago) |
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Now don't laugh! Demonic possession and exorcism are as old as time it self.
Yes, and so are certain ideas, like we exist at the center of the universe, the sun revolves around us, the world is flat, and more.
Hey, since we are digging up the past, let all through shit at each other, monkeys do it now, so my guess is we did it back then. 
Personally, I dont belive in demons, fairies, or the easter bunny. I would urge you all to see the doc , The God delusion, the Virus of Faith. Richard Dawkins(spelling?) is the awsome!!!
As he points out, most of us are already Atheists, some of us just go one god further. Jesus.
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