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Re: Exorcism [Re: Jalruza]
    #5914600 - 07/30/06 10:34 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

demons come for a reason and stay for a reason...

why has it come and why does it stay....

if one fears or is obsessed with possesion possesers will come to him...

people have karma upon karma... many things are past life debts... when the debt is warn out it will be harder for these things to stay...

don't fear them and try to be a good person... don't do disgusting things that they enjoy. Stop paying attention to them too... I'm sure they love it.



Demons exist but they are nothing to one righteous thought.


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Re: Exorcism [Re: unbeliever]
    #5914601 - 07/30/06 10:34 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Don't worry. Jalruza is a ridiculous idiot, anyway. Totally useless.


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Re: Exorcism [Re: blissedout]
    #5914611 - 07/30/06 10:39 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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blissedout said:
Don't worry. Jalruza is a ridiculous idiot, anyway. Totally useless.




Yeah, it's just lame that people are still stuck in the dark ages with regards to mental illness. Instead of doing something productive to help themselves they blame it on a demon and continue in their misery. Which I guess is all part of the mental illness in the first place. The problem is that it gives the next disturbed person some reinforcement in their own delusions.

:shrug:

Hopefully the OP gets help, one way or another. I can't imagine living life thinking I'm possessed by some evil spirit.


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Re: Exorcism [Re: Jalruza]
    #5914613 - 07/30/06 10:40 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

"Demon possessed" was also the label many of the mentally ill received before we came to know more about the mind.


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Re: Exorcism [Re: Organic]
    #5914614 - 07/30/06 10:41 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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Organic said:
"Demon possessed" was also the label many of the mentally ill received before we came to know more about the mind.




Yeah and the "cure" was torture and execution. Nice, huh?


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Re: Exorcism [Re: unbeliever]
    #5914622 - 07/30/06 10:44 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

SOme of you titbags think that what Jesus did during his life, he didnt exorcise demons he just cured mental instability , yeah right


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Re: Exorcism [Re: Jalruza]
    #5914631 - 07/30/06 10:46 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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Jalruza said:
SOme of you titbags think that what Jesus did during his life, he didnt exorcise demons he just cured mental instability , yeah right




That's making the assumption that I believe Jesus was anything more than a man, if he existed at all. But for all I know he might have been a really caring person who counseled troubled people. :shrug:


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Re: Exorcism [Re: Jalruza]
    #5914633 - 07/30/06 10:46 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Oh god, here we go.

This should be moved to SAP, now.:rolleyes:


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Re: Exorcism [Re: Jalruza]
    #5914634 - 07/30/06 10:47 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Jesus is man of legend.
He may have actually existed, but the tales of Jesus are no different than the mythological Thor or Odin.


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Re: Exorcism [Re: Wasteland]
    #5914637 - 07/30/06 10:49 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Now, that's taking it a little too far. Thor and Odin were mythological gods, whereas Jesus was an actual person.

EDIT-You're right. I just read that wrong.


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Re: Exorcism [Re: 888]
    #5914656 - 07/30/06 10:59 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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888 said:
demons come for a reason and stay for a reason...

why has it come and why does it stay....

if one fears or is obsessed with possesion possesers will come to him...

people have karma upon karma... many things are past life debts... when the debt is warn out it will be harder for these things to stay...

don't fear them and try to be a good person... don't do disgusting things that they enjoy. Stop paying attention to them too... I'm sure they love it.



Demons exist but they are nothing to one righteous thought.




This guy speaks words of wisdom


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Re: Exorcism [Re: Jalruza]
    #5915517 - 07/30/06 04:24 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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Jalruza said:
SOme of you titbags think that what Jesus did during his life, he didnt exorcise demons he just cured mental instability , yeah right




I beleive in Jesus... but he excorcised demons that were doing a hell of a lot more than just making people act like a jerk. Demonic posessions didn't just have annoying symptoms, they devastated people's lives, made them invalids, or turned them into feral beasts.

You're not posessed, you're delusional and you're trying to blame your problems on things that aren't your fault. You could waste money on exorcisms (assuming someone would even bother giving you one), or you could actually get the kind of help that you need.

Furthermore, quit being an asshole to everyone who gives an answer that you don't like, you child.


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Re: Exorcism [Re: Jalruza]
    #5915678 - 07/30/06 05:16 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

So were the rascals actually demonic beings?


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Re: Exorcism [Re: Jalruza]
    #5915820 - 07/30/06 06:00 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)



















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Re: Exorcism [Re: Amatoxin]
    #5915835 - 07/30/06 06:05 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)



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Re: Exorcism [Re: Jalruza]
    #5916171 - 07/30/06 07:47 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Another awesome thread from Jalruza.

Get those motherfucking demons out of my motherfucking body!


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Re: Exorcism [Re: Jalruza]
    #5916735 - 07/30/06 10:01 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Just thought I'd throw this out there because drugs and demons are being mentioned in the same post... Ever heard of a psychotic break?

While this is an interesting read, I fail to see any science behind this at all... :shrug:


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Re: Exorcism [Re: absolute zero]
    #6093119 - 09/23/06 12:30 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

"Demonic posessions didn't just have annoying symptoms, they devastated people's lives, made them invalids, or turned them into feral beasts."

Dude! Your talking about the extreem end of the possession. 95 % of it is NOT like that and gets swept under the carpet and people like you never even hear about it :wink:


"You're not posessed, you're delusional"
and
"Just thought I'd throw this out there because drugs and demons are being mentioned in the same post... Ever heard of a psychotic break?"

Demons started waaaaaaaaay before any drugs have been sampled by this person :smile:

Lets imagine for a minute baby Konnrade, when he was around 2 years old, safely napping in his bed. Crispy sheet, teddy bears, night lights. Mammy says goodnight.  Then around 2 am baby Konnrade dreams about visiting a cookie factory with his daddy... only half way thro the dream something else starts to happen, at first its just a cold graveyard atmosphere that floods his room ( and only can be sensed by a sensetive adult if he was there to witness it ). Then baby Konnrade starts feeling cold shivvers and before he knows something cold stabs  him in his feet, never mind he is still dreaming of chasing that double chokolate cookie in his dream... but the cold pricking continues and grows in intensity, before he knows it became really painfull and baby Konnrade is about to start crying ....  only he cant... whatever it was that came thro his energy points in feet, has now worked thro his autonomous nerve system and paralaised poor baby Konnrade! He is now dissasociated from his body and can not feel or move it. He is then dropped into a dark foul smelling void, he starts sensing that something really foul and dark is building up around him. He is powerless to do anything about it and in terror he exposes his all natural defences and lays them down exposing his psyche. What happens next, his psyche gets raped with virtual reality / drug induced full blown hallucination like quality in ways that would make cases of child molestation and domestic violence on earth look like walk in the park.

Shortly after he is released from paralyses, his whole body is as tense as vitnams war vets during psychich release sessions, hes whole body is covered in sweat, he throws into wild uncontrollable crying and even when his mother finds him running into his room he is anable to speak and breath properly and move for the next few hours and needs to be sat with comforting.



The same treatement continues from age 1 - 4.

And then stops. Whatever was doing it has finished breaking down energy body defences and now successfully attached itself to the persons psyche.

Its all influence stop. It waits until baby Knnordae gorws into adult while integrating and changing things such as his personality and sexuality. Althought no more night terrors are felt, there is no need for them, Konnrades problems have only just begun.....


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Re: Exorcism [Re: Jalruza]
    #6093199 - 09/23/06 12:59 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

There is a reason the devil has cloven feet.. it's because he's a scapegoat. Mental illness is bad enough without trying to sensationalize it as demonic possession. Plus by doing so you preclude any legitimate treatment that might help the person.

I'm not saying demonic possession isn't possible, I can't say I have enough information to make a decisive judgement on that. But based on the information, knowledge and experience I do have I would recommend at least trying the modern medical approach to mental illness before going off the deepend. It makes no sense to go from zero to head-spinning without getting help before then.

Or if you truly believe you are possessed, hey maybe it's a bi-polar demon that needs to be medicated?


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Re: Exorcism [Re: unbeliever]
    #6093228 - 09/23/06 01:10 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

My advice:

See a psychologist... you're not going to listen to this because you don't want to regard this concept with an open mind. Which is odd for a tripper.... Give it a chance.


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