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    #5904133 - 07/27/06 01:31 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Bagseed growlog (pics&or info everyday) [Re: C-Dizzle]
    #5904225 - 07/27/06 02:11 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Are you gonna transplant those to seperate pots? What are the other specs for you grow like lighting and soil?


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Re: Bagseed growlog (pics&or info everyday) [Re: Twister]
    #5904297 - 07/27/06 02:42 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

500watt light, idk what kind, jsut a garden light. just potting soil.

um... about the transplant, im going to give it 2-3weeks under 18/6 to get a sex on them, then seperate.


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Re: Bagseed growlog (pics&or info everyday) [Re: C-Dizzle]
    #5904380 - 07/27/06 04:22 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

do your self a favour and saparate them now!
check the type of light you use... you could be just wasting 500 watts on a very inafective light while you'll do alot better with 200W of fourecents or a 250 HID/MH

alot of newbe growers get excited about growing befor making sure they have a propper setup and then struggle with the grow because they don't understand what's wrong...
all it really needs is root space, water and sun :shrug:
but when growing indoors you have to make sure these conditions are there!

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Re: Bagseed growlog (pics&or info everyday) [Re: C-Dizzle]
    #5904383 - 07/27/06 04:29 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I agree with simisu. Separate them now because it will be too late in no time, the roots grow crazy fast. Also, they won't show sex until they are on the 12/12 light cycle unless they are autoflowering.

Good luck on the grow, I'm doing my first one at the moment.


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Re: Bagseed growlog (pics&or info everyday) *DELETED* [Re: Twister]
    #5904520 - 07/27/06 06:59 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Bagseed growlog (pics&or info everyday) [Re: Mead]
    #5908907 - 07/28/06 01:11 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

alright then ill jsut keep a few in there im gunna uplaod this pic i took a few minutes before i logged in hre, and then ill pull the ones that dont look at good as that up


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Day 2 [Re: C-Dizzle]
    #5908924 - 07/28/06 01:16 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)



This things about 5 inches already, i think its most likely going to be a male since males grow faster... Maybe not though..


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Re: Day 2 [Re: C-Dizzle]
    #5909938 - 07/28/06 08:12 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

any opinions? think it could be a female still?


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Re: Day 2 [Re: C-Dizzle]
    #5910228 - 07/28/06 09:48 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

It's too far from the light, get a compact flouro from walmart for your seedlings. It's just stretching.


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Re: Day 2 [Re: Hanky]
    #5910454 - 07/28/06 10:44 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

definitely look into a 250w HPS light, pretty cheap for the budget grower.  and if you can afford the 250, you might want to step up...i should know, I bought a 400w HPS last year and I really NEED to upgrade to at least 600w...preferably 1000w.  Good luck :wink:


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Re: Day 2 [Re: TODAY]
    #5910648 - 07/28/06 11:38 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Your going to want to move your lights closer. Those little babies shouldnt be so tall yet. They will stretch out and fall over.


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Re: Day 2 [Re: ShroomOmatic]
    #5911030 - 07/29/06 02:33 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

i have a floro tube right now can i use that to save a lil money?


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Re: Day 2 [Re: C-Dizzle]
    #5911556 - 07/29/06 10:08 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

you could use the tube, how many watts does it consume?

I have a rig of 3 14watt energy saving compact flourescent (CF) lights on the cloning box right now. I just keep it on 24/7 and it only consumes 42watts. The coverage area is about 1.5ft x 1.5ft.

I would prefer the CF lights because tubes are long as hell and CFs are, well, compact.


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Re: Day 2 [Re: C-Dizzle]
    #5911565 - 07/29/06 10:12 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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i have a floro tube right now can i use that to save a lil money?




A 20w compact flouro will cost you a few bucks and is more than enough light for the first two or three weeks.


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Re: Bagseed growlog (pics∨ info everyday) [Re: Twister]
    #5911780 - 07/29/06 11:29 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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Also, they won't show sex until they are on the 12/12 light cycle unless they are autoflowering.




that's not true at all, all my plants showed their sex before i flipped them to 12/12.


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Re: Bagseed growlog (pics∨ info everyday) [Re: coda]
    #5912106 - 07/29/06 01:40 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

most of mine did too.  I've only had 1 male out of around 15 plants from seed...kinda ghey when you want to begin a breeding program...but otherwise pretty ok :wink:


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Re: Bagseed growlog (pics∨ info everyday) [Re: TODAY]
    #5912471 - 07/29/06 04:01 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

lol, i guess that's one of the rare cases where you'll hear folks bitching about not getting enough males.  :smile:


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Re: Bagseed growlog (picsÉ info everyday) [Re: coda]
    #5912478 - 07/29/06 04:03 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I have 2 small 20watt floros and 7 40watt 4ft tubes on the ceiling


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Re: Bagseed growlog (picsÉ info everyday) [Re: coda]
    #5912482 - 07/29/06 04:06 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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Also, they won't show sex until they are on the 12/12 light cycle unless they are autoflowering.




that's not true at all, all my plants showed their sex before i flipped them to 12/12.




Yeah i get excellent flowers in my region of 18/6 but i just want to grow a quick inside plant under 12/12 if i can, but im abomut to throw these fuckers outside again to get better flowers and shit, but ill experiment with these things i have here, i have plenty of seeds for this strain, hundreds for the same


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Re: Day 3 [Re: C-Dizzle]
    #5912511 - 07/29/06 04:23 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

okay I put 2 seedlings outside and kept 2 in the soil and 5 in my hydroponics, jsut running tests with the hydroponics, im not gunna let that finish so fuck hydro right now.. Ill see how the plants do jsut sitting in my room with the 7 40W floros running without times, times will be different everyday, maybe itll stress it and make it a hermy for me


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Re: Day 3 [Re: C-Dizzle]
    #5912622 - 07/29/06 05:17 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Flowering plants under CFL's seems to be a waste of time from the viewpoint of countless indoor growers. if it's all you can afford then it will work, but nothing beats a HID for indoor grows. However, if you're just vegging your plants under the fluro's with plans on moving them to a HID setup for flowering you'll be just fine.

As far as i know there is no such thing as a "quick indoor plant". A plant will grow according to the parameters that nature sets. The only thing you can cut down time on is vegging the plants, however flowering small cuttings or plants early on will reduce your yeild significantly.

Im only on my second grow, but from what ive read over the past 10 years or so you should veg your plants to at least 12-14 inches before placing them in flowering.


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Re: Day 3 [Re: coda]
    #5914855 - 07/30/06 12:33 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

which is 12/12 the fastest one. they flower faster under 12/12 than 18/6, 18/6 is my outsides hours and 12/12 is my indoors hours


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Re: Day 4 [Re: C-Dizzle]
    #5914882 - 07/30/06 12:45 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Heres some of the 40W lights. ill take pics of the plants later tonight when the light goes off.





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Re: Day 3 [Re: C-Dizzle]
    #5915112 - 07/30/06 02:20 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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which is 12/12 the fastest one. they flower faster under 12/12 than 18/6, 18/6 is my outsides hours and 12/12 is my indoors hours




There are two stages in your plants life. Vegetative growth and flowering. Both stages require different lighting. 24hrs on 0hrs off is one for veg, 18hrs on 6 hrs off is another for veg. Your plants will see 10% more growth in the 24/0 period.

When your plants are finished their veg cycle (around 2 ft in height) you place them in 12/12 lighting. This initiates the flowering cycle which takes anywhere from 50 to 80 days.

Like i said there is no way to speed up the process minus cutting down your veg time. You can also take a week or so off when using clones but the difference is not that much. You cannot rush nature, that's all there is to it. There is no such thing as a quick grow, even the lowryder plant takes about two months to finish. The only reason indoor grows can be considered quicker then an outdoor grow is that you can control the photoperiod for your plants.


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Re: Day 3 [Re: coda]
    #5918099 - 07/31/06 09:58 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

ha ha me and a friend planted seeds in a good spot came back 3 months later and i vaporized one leaf and i was ripped in such a good way and started to trip from the stuff


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Re: Day 3 [Re: thedudenj]
    #5919374 - 07/31/06 06:09 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

hmm well ive had a plant in the basement (not my basement) for years under 24/0 i think its been there 3-4years and i checked it a few months ago wanting to bring it back to ym hsoeu and still no sex.... So i dont grow using 24/0ever anymore only to sprout seeds in bags... liek i said that plants still vegging, its crazy


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    #5920008 - 07/31/06 09:24 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

that's because 24/0 is a vegging photoperiod.


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    #5920146 - 07/31/06 10:03 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

good luck man, hope you learn a lot.


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    #5920167 - 07/31/06 10:06 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

me 2, thanks


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Re: Bagseed growlog (pics∨ info everyday) [Re: coda]
    #5920296 - 07/31/06 10:42 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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Also, they won't show sex until they are on the 12/12 light cycle unless they are autoflowering.




that's not true at all, all my plants showed their sex before i flipped them to 12/12.




Interesting. I've just always been under the impression that that wasn't the case and from all of the growlogs I've read through I've only seen it when people cut down growing time in increments before putting them in 12/12. Were they in 18/6 when they showed sex?


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Re: Day 3 [Re: coda]
    #5920304 - 07/31/06 10:45 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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Flowering plants under CFL's seems to be a waste of time from the viewpoint of countless indoor growers. if it's all you can afford then it will work, but nothing beats a HID for indoor grows. However, if you're just vegging your plants under the fluro's with plans on moving them to a HID setup for flowering you'll be just fine.

As far as i know there is no such thing as a "quick indoor plant". A plant will grow according to the parameters that nature sets. The only thing you can cut down time on is vegging the plants, however flowering small cuttings or plants early on will reduce your yeild significantly.

Im only on my second grow, but from what ive read over the past 10 years or so you should veg your plants to at least 12-14 inches before placing them in flowering.




There are some very impressive CFL grows on display over at cannabis.com . Of course HID's are best but considering the circumstances CFL's grow some alright weed it seems.

http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=61768


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Re: Day 3 [Re: Twister]
    #5922113 - 08/01/06 02:55 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

my plants stayed in 24/0 until placed in 12/12. They all showed sex before flipping them. My clones im currently growing also showed sex waaaaaay before they reached 2 ft in height (although this is probably because they were cloned).

Not all strains will show preflowers in 24/0, there are some that require you to flip the lights before you can see the sex, but most strains left long enough in the veg cycle will show their sex before they are flipped.

As for the CFL's, like i said if it's all you can afford or have space for then they will work. However anyone serious about attaining maximum yields, density, and bud size will go with a HID any day of the week.


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Re: Day 3 [Re: coda]
    #5925062 - 08/02/06 11:11 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

18/6 is my preflower hours and flower hours outside 18/6 is my preflower inside hours and 12/12 flower inside hours


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Re: Day 3 [Re: C-Dizzle]
    #5925063 - 08/02/06 11:12 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

i got the hours down, i got the book


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Re: Day 3 [Re: C-Dizzle]
    #5934729 - 08/05/06 01:59 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Alright im starting over and ill start showing you when its about 1 foot or something, but being light stretched like that eventually started making the stem skinnier and skinnier and it jsut rotted and killed it. So i have one thats been holding back the leaves and jsut baring the sepals for about a week now, i dont know if thats good, maybe, we'll see


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Re: Day 3 [Re: C-Dizzle]
    #5939484 - 08/07/06 12:47 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

watering tonight i seen a few blades comming out of the long fat sepals


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Re: Day 3 [Re: C-Dizzle]
    #5949564 - 08/10/06 01:23 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

the blades are getting wide as shit now mega fat blades :smile:


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