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Ythan
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Shroomery Content Management System v2.0
#5901532 - 07/26/06 10:20 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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As some of you may know we've been planning to switch the Shroomery over to a wiki-style system which allows users to easily submit and edit content on the site. The whole premise behind a system like this is that anyone can add, change, or edit information. All actions are logged, and can be easily reverted in case of vandalism or the like. Hopefully this will usher in a new age of high quality, up-do-date material. After a couple months of work I've got a system in place which offers most of the functionality we're looking for. However, since it's the largest solo project I've worked on and the whole AJAX thing is new to me anyway, there are bound to be an above average number of 'errata'. I'd like to start getting some people on the new system to help identify the worst bugs, missing features and design flaws so I can get the system to a finalized state and roll it out on the live site.
Notes: The script is designed to work in the latest versions of Firefox, Opera and IE, and Koqueror without WYSIWYG editing. Safari is untested but probably the same as Konqueror. I've heard reports that there are problems in IE but it's worked fine for me on multiple computers. I'd like to hear from other IE users. The drop-down navigation bar at the top of the page hasn't been updated to point to the test location so please don't use it for navigation yet. Don't worry about messing anything up it takes 5 seconds to restore.
When reporting bugs, please include as much information as possible, including your OS, browser and version, and any steps which can be taken to reproduce the problem. All questions, comments and suggestions are also welcome!
Quick & Dirty Instructions:
You must have an account on the BB and be logged in to access the edit functionality.
Go to http://www.shroomery.org/cms
You can use the six links in the title image, or the search form to get started.
To re-order a list of items (eg documents, sections) move your mouse over the caption so a border appears, then drag it to the new location. If you already have the section sorted by name, rating or date (you'll see an arrow by the sort option), you won't be able to manually reorder documents. You must click 'reset' first so no default sort order is specified.
To change an item's caption, move your mouse over it so a border appears, then double-click. To save the changes, press Enter or click outside the edit field. To discard changes, press escape.
To change an item's name, open the item, then edit its name at the top of the page the same way you edit a caption.
To edit or move an item, open it and use the appropriate tab at the bottom.
To rate an item, open it and click the desired star rating in the 'Information' tab.
All changes are logged and can be undone. To view the history of a document, compare revisions, or go back to an earlier copy, open it and use the 'Revisions' tab.
To add a new item, go to the desired section and use the 'Add New' tab. The script will automatically detect when a file upload is an image.
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Re: Shroomery Content Management System v2.0 [Re: Ythan]
#5901932 - 07/26/06 01:30 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Looks good so far.
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Re: Shroomery Content Management System v2.0 [Re: koppie]
#5901987 - 07/26/06 02:00 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Very cool.
I have like, 6 browsers here at school, so I'll muck around a bit on each of them and see if I cant find something broken.
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Re: Shroomery Content Management System v2.0 [Re: Ythan]
#5904956 - 07/27/06 10:57 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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i went to cultivation from your link i got the following pop-up ( error?)
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infinite menus muste ( yes thats their spelling) be purchased for internet use
i dunno if this is supposed to be there, but i figured i would give you a heads up
xp media edition I.E.
adding content: with I.E., the add image doesnt open fully, so you cant add the image url, ALSO with I.E., the continue botton doesnt work ( for submitting the work) .
I tried adding with firefox, and everything worked PERFECTLY!
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Edited by ChromeCrow (07/27/06 11:33 AM)
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Re: Shroomery Content Management System v2.0 [Re: ChromeCrow]
#5905594 - 07/27/06 02:40 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I am getting the same "Infinite Menus muste be purchased for Internet use"
I am using XP w/SP2 at the moment; IE v. 6.0.2900.2180.xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158
I can reproduce the problem by using your link and entering Agar as my search term (no quotes).
Looks like a licensing issue. -ghost
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Re: Shroomery Content Management System v2.0 [Re: Ythan]
#5905999 - 07/27/06 04:37 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Couldn't this make the site somewhat vulnerable to spam attacks and shit???
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Re: Shroomery Content Management System v2.0 [Re: Jim]
#5906043 - 07/27/06 04:50 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I was wondering the same.. I wouldn't doubt that it is all backed up though. Does it list the people who have edited documents and what changes they made? When I tried to check the cms out, it wasn't working for me because of my browser.
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Re: Shroomery Content Management System v2.0 [Re: eris]
#5907269 - 07/27/06 10:54 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thanks for the reports guys! Please keep them coming!
I've fixed the problem with Infinite Menus thinking it's unregistered.
ChromeCrow, I just spend a while testing the 'Add Document' functionality and I couldn't reporoduce your problem. Does it only happen when you try to add a 'File' item? The 'continue' button stays disabled until you enter a title, caption and filename but I understand if the filename field isn't visible that may not be possible. Do you get any javascript errors or anything like that?
Finally, yes this could open us up to spam attacks but ultimately I don't think they'll be much of a problem. You must have an account on the BB to make edits, and miuse of the system will result in a ban. It's also possible to show a list of the latest revisions, and mass-undo by user. So if someone defaces 100 documents it'll still just take one click to and a couple seconds to fix. And of course in a worst case we always have the nightly backups.
Thanks again everyone for taking the time to check this out!
Peace,
-Y
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Re: Shroomery Content Management System v2.0 [Re: Ythan]
#5908855 - 07/28/06 12:46 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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One way to avoid spam and vandalism would be to require a minimum amount of posts, say 200, to be able to edit content.
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Re: Shroomery Content Management System v2.0 [Re: Ythan]
#5909497 - 07/28/06 04:34 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
Ythan said:
ChromeCrow, I just spend a while testing the 'Add Document' functionality and I couldn't reporoduce your problem. Does it only happen when you try to add a 'File' item? The 'continue' button stays disabled until you enter a title, caption and filename but I understand if the filename field isn't visible that may not be possible. Do you get any javascript errors or anything like that?
-Y
it was adding a document. was comleted w. title etc.
ok, i change my screen res and got a bigger box for images.... but still not the full box i got on firefox( at a lower res)
the continue seems to be working on IE now
no errors
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Re: Shroomery Content Management System v2.0 [Re: ChromeCrow]
#5909769 - 07/28/06 06:44 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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A thought that occurs is that perhaps all changes do not need to be made to the site as a whole in one instant. Why not create a team that reviews changes before submitting them to the actual site, or something? Almost like moderators. I think there is a liability issue here, considering the nature of the content. Someone could easily make the wrong statements which could create a lot of trouble.
I think this would put us in a great position to prevent problems from occuring, instead of reacting to potentially serious problems (misinformation, provoking authorities, etc.). There could be a great number of reviewers in place to ensure changes are activated as soon as possible, since we have a great amount of trusted individuals here, and it wouldn't be as though it would be overly time consuming to review the proposed content.
Does anyone else see why this might be necessary? 
I think this could really revitalize the site itself, sweet stuff. 
 Peace.
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Re: Shroomery Content Management System v2.0 [Re: fireworks_god]
#5910494 - 07/28/06 10:55 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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fireworks_god said: A thought that occurs is that perhaps all changes do not need to be made to the site as a whole in one instant. Why not create a team that reviews changes before submitting them to the actual site, or something? Almost like moderators. I think there is a liability issue here, considering the nature of the content. Someone could easily make the wrong statements which could create a lot of trouble.
I think this would put us in a great position to prevent problems from occuring, instead of reacting to potentially serious problems (misinformation, provoking authorities, etc.). There could be a great number of reviewers in place to ensure changes are activated as soon as possible, since we have a great amount of trusted individuals here, and it wouldn't be as though it would be overly time consuming to review the proposed content.
Does anyone else see why this might be necessary? 
I think this could really revitalize the site itself, sweet stuff. 
 Peace.
Totally agree. Lets say for instance this new section of the website is indexed by google. A dumb individual manages to surf through to the site from their not actually realizing a unqualifed indivdual posted incorrect information their. He consumes the mushroom hoping to get high and ends up in the hospital or even worse dead. Next thing you know his parents are persuing a lawsuit and other legal actions against shroomery.org . I think this forum is great and their are many qualified members here who may have already saved lives by advising someone a mushroom is poisonus or not to eat unidentified mushrooms. I just hope this new addition to the site doesn't cause the site to be closed due to legal problems. I think moderators would be the way to go as proposed by fireworksgod.
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Re: Shroomery Content Management System v2.0 [Re: Montanahunter420]
#5911307 - 07/29/06 07:18 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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The same validity problem and disclaimer will apply as with Wikipedia, along the lines of:
" Wikipedia is an online open-content collaborative encyclopedia, that is, a voluntary association of individuals and groups who are developing a common resource of human knowledge. The structure of the project allows anyone with an Internet connection and World Wide Web browser to alter its content. Please be advised that nothing found here has necessarily been reviewed by professionals with the expertise required to provide you with complete, accurate or reliable information.
That is not to say that you will not find valuable and accurate information in Wikipedia; much of the time you will. However, Wikipedia cannot guarantee the validity of the information found here. The content of any given article may recently have been changed, vandalized or altered by someone whose opinion does not correspond with the state of knowledge in the relevant fields."
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:General_disclaimer
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Re: Shroomery Content Management System v2.0 [Re: Ythan]
#5911772 - 07/29/06 11:23 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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SO someone can edit my posts? No thanks.
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Re: Shroomery Content Management System v2.0 [Re: sunshine]
#5912070 - 07/29/06 01:30 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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No, you don't quite understand.....
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Collaborative editing
Collaborative editing is the practice of groups producing works together through individual contributions. Most usually it is applied to textual documents or programmatic source code. Such asynchronous contributions are very efficient in time, as group members need not assemble in order to work together. Generally, managing such work requires software; the most common tools for editing documents are Wikis, and those for programming, version control systems.
Wikipedia is an example of a collaborative editing project on a large scale.
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Re: Shroomery Content Management System v2.0 [Re: Anno]
#5912985 - 07/29/06 07:32 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I don't think that such a disclaimer is going to remove The Shroomery from all responsibility, especially considering the sensitive nature of this information in relation to the law. All it takes is someone to say the wrong fucking thing, even if it is quickly edited out...
I don't think having reviewers before new content is submitted would be difficult to implement or detrimental to the process. There could be reviewers who give everything a general glance to ensure that nothing harmful or illegal is submitted, and those who specialize in specific areas, such as mushroom identification.
I think this simply boils down to predictive management vs. reactive management. 
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Re: Shroomery Content Management System v2.0 [Re: Ythan]
#5913302 - 07/29/06 10:06 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I've got a system in place which offers most of the functionality we're looking for.
Dude, your gona get sooooo much pussy.
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Re: Shroomery Content Management System v2.0 [Re: Ythan]
#5924808 - 08/02/06 09:17 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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sounds like that will suck, not much u can do to help this website.......
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Re: Shroomery Content Management System v2.0 [Re: smoorhS_kcuF]
#5924895 - 08/02/06 10:04 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Every journey begins with a single step, the first step to improving this site is getting rid of you.
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Re: Shroomery Content Management System v2.0 [Re: Ythan]
#5929496 - 08/03/06 07:12 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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This clearly demonstrates the relevance of my point. 
Do you want some fucking moron like that fucking up our content, even if it is something that we could effortlessly fix after the fact? Think of the potential, negative repercussions of such occuring.
I think this is a great way to take the management of the content, and also a great way to give those who are interested in benefiting this website and all it stands for an excellent oppurtunity to participate. To review the content would not require much time or effort, perhaps more for those that specialize in specific information (like knowledge of cultivation or mushroom identity), and would prevent any screw-up with too much time on their hands, like that one, to destroy the content (even if temporarily).
Eh, inn' it? 
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