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splifner180
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Offensive Avatars
#5899730 - 07/25/06 09:14 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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This is the closest you'll ever see me get to a full-tilt rant.
I'll also preface this thread by saying that my heroes are Bill Hicks and Lenny Bruce, both people who made a mark specifically by saying what nobody wanted to hear.
So here goes....
I'd have some respect for the LOL 9/11 avatars if they added to the dialogue or had something useful to say about what happend that day.
Wait, I'm getting ahead of myself. If they had ANYTHING to say, useful or not.
Am I being too harsh? What is the message, anyway? Pondering the choice between an agonizing death being inflicted upon you or extracting the dignity of doing it yourself is funny? Maybe I'm missing the punch line.
Don't confuse me with the idiots who have a hardon for post-9/11 retribution. But I did know someone on Flight 11.
Doesn't mean I should have the right to be shielded from certain speech. But it does mean that if you're going to make a joke of that day then I really fucking hope you have something insightful to say.
And the avatar isn't cutting it.
splif
PS: Let 'er rip. I got my asbestos jammies on.
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'Member that time when you checked your luggage at the door?
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splifner180
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GnuBobo writes: "'Member that time when you checked your luggage at the door? "
"Luggage" is the customer who went on for five minutes in what could only charitably be called "pronoun soup."
"Luggage" is my annoyance at almost being hit by a car today. Twice, actually.
"Luggage" is my overdrawn banking account.
"Luggage" is the fact that my ferret refuses to be broken of the habit of taking a crap outside the litter box.
"Luggage" is the cruft and the crap and the slings and arrows and you're right. Those stay at the door.
I sat down that morning and rubbed my eyes and logged on to AIM. "Danny was on Flight 11."
That ain't luggage. That's a kick in the balls that you still feel five years later.
But I'm glad you replied. It's a step toward working out what value these avatars have.
Trust me. I'm listening.
splif
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HELLA_TIGHT
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It's meant to be offensive. That's the point. There's nothing funny about it. That's why you add the LOL. I'M MAKING FUN OF SOMETHING THAT WAS TERIBLE.
Shock humor.
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TheDude
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Your post is incredibly offensive because you seem to be against my first amendment rights.
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Re: Offensive Avatars [Re: TheDude]
#5899888 - 07/25/06 09:59 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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well that was gay, a total deletion of H_T's post.
the pub apparently hates our first admendment rights too.
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Re: Offensive Avatars [Re: TheDude]
#5899889 - 07/25/06 10:00 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I hate it when someone trys to tell what I can and cannot believe.
One of the reason's I hate the Christian religion and Americans.
I'm an American and, I feel that the tragedy on 911 is no laughing matter.
I don't feel I should play emotion police though and tell people what they can and cannot have because it hurts my feelings. I say get over it.
No offense to you.. just my 2 cents
-------------------- ToiletDuk said: For the record, I would show you my butthole but you would fall down and worship it as a God and you would give up everything to roam the land converting the heathens by fire and sword. Millions would die. No, no the cost is too great. I cannot.
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Re: Offensive Avatars [Re: TheDude]
#5899898 - 07/25/06 10:02 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
TheDude said: well that was gay, a total deletion of H_T's post.
the pub apparently hates our first admendment rights too.
No, I deleted it.
I felt a little dickish.
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TheDude
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GAY
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Hanky
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Re: Offensive Avatars [Re: TheDude]
#5899908 - 07/25/06 10:04 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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-------------------- Coaster is an idiot... [quote]Coaster said: but i thnk everything thats pure is white? [/quote]
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Re: Offensive Avatars [Re: Hanky]
#5899916 - 07/25/06 10:06 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
Hanky said:
QFT
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GnuBobo
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Quote:
splifner180 said: GnuBobo writes: "'Member that time when you checked your luggage at the door? "
"Luggage" is the customer who went on for five minutes in what could only charitably be called "pronoun soup."
"Luggage" is my annoyance at almost being hit by a car today. Twice, actually.
"Luggage" is my overdrawn banking account.
"Luggage" is the fact that my ferret refuses to be broken of the habit of taking a crap outside the litter box.
"Luggage" is the cruft and the crap and the slings and arrows and you're right. Those stay at the door.
I sat down that morning and rubbed my eyes and logged on to AIM. "Danny was on Flight 11."
That ain't luggage. That's a kick in the balls that you still feel five years later.
But I'm glad you replied. It's a step toward working out what value these avatars have.
Trust me. I'm listening.
splif
You've got some vindictive politics, man. Kill 3,000 Americans. Kill how many Afghani civilians?
I'm not saying it's a way to solve things--you're just being simple, though.
I need to leave this thread or I'll get some permabannage talking to your butt.
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Re: Offensive Avatars [Re: Hanky]
#5899933 - 07/25/06 10:08 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
Hanky said:
free speech, free expression of ideas^nth, LOL.
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Hanky
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Re: Offensive Avatars [Re: TheDude]
#5899991 - 07/25/06 10:18 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
TheDude said:
Quote:
Hanky said:
QFT
No!
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Iamthewalrus
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Re: Offensive Avatars [Re: GnuBobo]
#5900012 - 07/25/06 10:22 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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its just an avatar...when does it end?...I mean 911 was horrible but it has been a while now
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mellowrubberduck
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I remember when the first 9/11 movie came out a little while ago. Everyone said *Oh no, it's too soon for that shit*. When would be the *appropriate* time then? Just because you talk about it doesn't mean your blind to the event.
The first vietnam movie was made a couple years after the war, was it too soon for that to happen?
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Re: Offensive Avatars [Re: Hanky]
#5900038 - 07/25/06 10:25 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
Hanky said:

When did we get all of these offensively funny smileys?
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Re: Offensive Avatars [Re: blissedout]
#5900142 - 07/25/06 10:45 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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LMAO ROFL LOL
-------------------- ToiletDuk said: For the record, I would show you my butthole but you would fall down and worship it as a God and you would give up everything to roam the land converting the heathens by fire and sword. Millions would die. No, no the cost is too great. I cannot.
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Re: Offensive Avatars [Re: blissedout]
#5900147 - 07/25/06 10:46 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ythan has new policy, the more hippie pub mod complaints he gets, the more offensive smileys he makes.
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Infrared
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dude ..chill
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Quote:
HELLA_TIGHT said: It's meant to be offensive. That's the point. There's nothing funny about it. That's why you add the LOL. I'M MAKING FUN OF SOMETHING THAT WAS TERIBLE.
Shock humor.

 
The only way to lighten up a situation is to laugh at it.
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Re: Offensive Avatars [Re: Hanky]
#5900169 - 07/25/06 10:49 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hanky said: Ythan has new policy, the more hippie pub mod complaints he gets, the more offensive smileys he makes.
I always liked his policies. They have carried us through some difficult times.
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It's either laugh or cry. Either way, you are releasing emotion.
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Re: Offensive Avatars [Re: blissedout]
#5900176 - 07/25/06 10:51 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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rightyo man rightyo
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Some people like to find humor in any situation, no matter how doom and gloom it may seem. I like those kinds of people.
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splifner180
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In starting this thread I said to myself, "splif, you're asking for opinions so don't be upset when you get them." But the response hit me in a way I never saw coming.
I asked -- quite clearly, I thought -- for someone to tell me the value of the avatar. All the great social critics/comics from Voltaire to Lenny Bruce have said things that were unpopular but they were saying (in their own particular way) "this is fucked up" or "this is wrong" or "this needs to be talked about."
ALL I've asked in this thread (and it IS a request, mind you, not a demand) is for someone to explain to me what value is in the LOL 9/11 avatars that makes them worth the scab they're scratching. I haven't even asked that anyone defend it, just SPELL IT OUT FOR ME.
I never said that they shouldn't be posted. I never said I wanted them deleted. And I definitely didn't bitch to any mod.
So far only HELLA has managed an answer. So thanks. It doesn't even matter that I think the answer sucks ass. It matters that he answered the question I asked instead of setting up strawmen.
Everyone else has somehow found a way to turn this into something it isn't. Why? Is the question that uncomfortable?
Anyone fool can pick up a rock and throw it.
So I wound up being pissed off anyway. Not because of the avatars but because only one of you has managed to keep the debate honest.
This is the last comment from me.
splif
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Edited by splifner180 (07/25/06 11:28 PM)
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HELLA_TIGHT
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You're comparing the Vietnam war to 9/11?
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Aside from just saying what was already said about shock humor and the fact that is is supposed to be offensive I cant say the value.I would like to say that I hate people who complain about people's avatars,Sig's etc...It just makes me wonder how hungry for attention someone must be to cry to a mod and get people banned over something that should matter so little to you (By you I mean no one in particular).I just don't get it whatsoever.I mean since we are talking about 911 I would like to say that one of the reason those terrorist hate us is the reason that we (should) have the freedom to do and say what we please.I'm not saying someone doesn't also have the right to get offended if they so choose but people should argue with the person offending them not cry about it and try to cause problems for them as that is just about as oppressive an anti American as you can get.I am American and I can honestly say I couldn't be more sick of hearing about 911.Its a tragedy OK get over it.Ppl die every single day.Sorry to say it but it is time to move on.I mean if you know someone who died that day than I'm sorry for you but otherwise its just time to shut up about it and leave well enough alone.Being that we are in the pub and saying what you actually think will get you in trouble here for saying what is on your mind unless everyone else agrees with you I'm actually kind of afraid to say any more so I will leave it at that.But I would like to see how many others are sick of all this crying.
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