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Basilides
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Peace in the Middle East
#5899473 - 07/25/06 08:09 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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In your own words, what is the ideal method for peace in the Mideast? Not just the Israeli-Lebanon conflict, but the Palestinian situation as well. What will it take for these two peoples to live side by side peacefully?
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Re: Peace in the Middle East [Re: Basilides]
#5899495 - 07/25/06 08:13 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Oxy-moron.
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Re: Peace in the Middle East [Re: RandalFlagg]
#5899582 - 07/25/06 08:28 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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A hippy-style revolution where all the arabs have realisations of world peace while tripping on shrooms and acid and start protecting mother earth smoking pot with colorful turbons on.
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Re: Peace in the Middle East [Re: Basilides]
#5899610 - 07/25/06 08:35 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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NATO ask the Serbs.....
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Re: Peace in the Middle East [Re: Basilides]
#5900737 - 07/26/06 12:52 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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The death of the human race.
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Considering that humans have been fighting in the middle east ever since humans moved into the middle east, I (unfortunately) suspect that "The death of the human race." is the correct answer.
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RosettaStoned said: The death of the human race.
Bingo!
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Re: Peace in the Middle East [Re: lonestar2004]
#5901613 - 07/26/06 10:56 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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There has never been peace in the Middle East. There have been wars there even before there was Israel.
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Re: Peace in the Middle East [Re: downforpot]
#5901957 - 07/26/06 01:48 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Well, maybe if all the major religions were dissolved there might be peace in the desert, but we are all likely do die off before that happens.
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I dont think you can have peace now. There has been too much blood spilled...
Israel leaving the land they stole would be a good start though...
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Would be an excellent start.
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Re: Peace in the Middle East [Re: Basilides]
#5901994 - 07/26/06 02:01 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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I imagine it would have to look something like this:
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Re: Peace in the Middle East [Re: Silversoul]
#5902039 - 07/26/06 02:23 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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On a serious note, though, there are a few possible but improbable scenarios that I could see resulting in peace in the middle east:
1. The destruction of Israel. Not saying I would support this, but let's face it: Israel is at the heart of much of the anger towards the west in that region.
2. A one-state solution in Israel. Obviously the two-state solution is not going to satisfy those who want Israel destroyed, but if Israel incorporated the occupied territories into its borders and made all Palestinians Israeli citizens, it would resolve much of the conflict between the two. Of course, it would also make Palestinians the majority, thus changing Israel from a Jewish state to a Muslim state with a large Jewish population, which is why it's highly unlikely.
3. The rise of a unified middle eastern empire. This is what the region was like before WWI, when the Ottoman empire ruled much of the middle east. However, I very much doubt that the US would allow the rise of any empire other than its own.
4. See above map.
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Re: Peace in the Middle East [Re: Basilides]
#5902283 - 07/26/06 04:00 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Everyone getting off their high horses, admitting no one is better than the other, forgiving all those that have contributed to the millenia of death and destruction, and for religious tolerance to abound (or the religions to dwindle away)
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Re: Peace in the Middle East [Re: demiu5]
#5902296 - 07/26/06 04:09 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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demius said: Everyone getting off their high horses, admitting no one is better than the other, forgiving all those that have contributed to the millenia of death and destruction, and for religious tolerance to abound (or the religions to dwindle away)
Now there's a utopian after my own heart
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Re: Peace in the Middle East [Re: Basilides]
#5906376 - 07/27/06 07:03 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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I cannot foresee peace arising in the Middle East in the near future. If Israel and its citizens were to evaporate it would make things a little more peaceful, but I surmise that there would still be instability.
I don't much care about the stability of, or peace in, the Middle East. I contend that America should withdraw all troops, aid, and attention from that shithole. Let the savages kill each other.
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Re: Peace in the Middle East [Re: RandalFlagg]
#5906513 - 07/27/06 07:40 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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RandalFlagg said: I cannot foresee peace arising in the Middle East in the near future. If Israel and its citizens were to evaporate it would make things a little more peaceful, but I surmise that there would still be instability.
I don't much care about the stability of, or peace in, the Middle East. I contend that America should withdraw all troops, aid, and attention from that shithole. Let the savages kill each other.
Israel is a sister nation of USA. Jews have roots to the original 13 colonies. America and Israel will always be allies. Israel is America's only friend in the Middle East, the rest of them hate America and the West because they got their asses kicked by the west.
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Madtowntripper said: I dont think you can have peace now. There has been too much blood spilled...
Israel leaving the land they stole would be a good start though...
Which land did they steal? The the land during the 1967 war? Even though they gave back Gaza and parts of West Bank and the attacks still continued.
That doesn't even matter anymore because Hamas and Iran want all Jews dead. It doesn't matter if the rest of the West Bank is given back because they will still want all the Jews dead and the Middle East be 100% MUSLIM. They DON'T WANT NON MUSLIMS THERE!!!! = FACT
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Re: Peace in the Middle East [Re: downforpot]
#5906858 - 07/27/06 08:52 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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downforpot said: Israel is a sister nation of USA.
Israel was established as a secular nation based on individual rights and a weak central government with clearly delimited powers and a bill of rights, with it's philosophical roots in the Enlightenment? I don't think so.
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Jews have roots to the original 13 colonies.
Some Jews do, as do various other people from various backgrounds. However, Jews as a religious group, as a tribe, do not.
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America and Israel will always be allies.
Why should this be? Israel's problems should not be the U.S.'s problems. Israel's enemies should not be the U.S.'s enemies. No entangling or permanent alliances would serve the U.S. much better than the current state of affairs.
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Re: Peace in the Middle East [Re: downforpot]
#5906874 - 07/27/06 08:58 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Israel is America's only friend in the Middle East
LOL! Think again. Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, UAE, Qatar, Yemen, Oman come to mind.
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Re: Peace in the Middle East [Re: Basilides]
#5907171 - 07/27/06 10:24 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Basilides said: Israel is America's only friend in the Middle East
LOL! Think again. Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, UAE, Qatar, Yemen, Oman come to mind.
Why would you ever mention those countries? They ain't shit. They are full of people that hate USA and Israel, don't ever say they are friends of USA.
I know for a fucking fact that you have enough brains in your skull to know that those countries aren't our friends. Don't compare Israel to them. Israelis and Americans have a lot more fucking ties than fucking Saudi Arabia where they hang people for bullshit. I know you know that, why the fuck are you mentioning them?
Would you go on vacation to Israel or Saudi Arabia? Oh let me guess you're gonna say you won't go there because Hezbollah is shooting rockets there, LOL. Well what if that stopped. Would you rather go to a country where everyone loves you or a country where you might be kidnapped and have your head cut off? Let me guess, you'll pick the later.
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Edited by downforpot (07/27/06 10:26 PM)
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