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Re: Peace in the Middle East [Re: Basilides]
#5912177 - 07/29/06 02:09 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Basilides said: Yea? And the Egyptian government probably arrested a bunch of those murderous fucks and tortured them. Government and its people - two different things.
In Israel it is not just the government that looks at America as a friend.
Please explain, downforpot, how a government like Bahrain, Qatar or Jordan are "American puppets". And please explain how other friendly nations like the Netherlands, or Japan, or Australia are not American puppets. By your logic, any diplomatic ally of the United States who has a significant population that expresses anti-Americanism is somehow an "American puppet", whatever the hell that is. That's awful lot of puppets. Hundreds of them.
That's how it always has been. We have supported plenty of governments whos own people hated our guts. Therefore they are just our puppets. Their people could care less about the USA. As for Israel, they fucking love us and we fucking love them back.
Most Britons, French, Germans (and Europeans in general) hold negative sentiment towards the United States. Are these puppet governments too?
I doubt that. My friends have been to Europe and I've met plenty of Britons and Frenchies in the USA and they don't give a fuck. They went to Spain, Paris, Amsterdam, Italy.... no1. NO1 gave them shit about being Americans. Maybe they do but they don't talk about it. In the Muslim countries you will get your ass killed or kidnapped and decapitated.
And again, I know you fucking know this: When one Muslim is attacked the rest of them will follow. They will do anything to the enemy and and kill them. Fortunetly only a small percentage of Muslims actually carry out these acts. But lets say 1%.... out of over 1 billion Muslims.... heh, that's a lot of people hating you.
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Re: Peace in the Middle East [Re: Silversoul]
#5912770 - 07/29/06 06:12 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Seuss said: > Their people could care less about the USA.
I don't understand? If their people could care less, then that implies that their people currently care. You cannot care less than no care at all. Your are contradicting yourself here.
They don't have that expression where you live? I realize it's a stupid and self-contradictory expression, but it's commonly used.
"Could care less" isn't a common expression, it's a common mistake. It's a corruption of "couldn't care less" - a common expression.
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Re: Peace in the Middle East [Re: OJK]
#5912782 - 07/29/06 06:18 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Unfortunately the mistake has supplanted the correct form (and the one I grew up with) in the lexicon of common usage.
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Re: Peace in the Middle East [Re: downforpot]
#5912796 - 07/29/06 06:24 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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In the Muslim countries you will get your ass killed or kidnapped and decapitated.
Complete utter bullshit. Do you know how many expats are currently in Muslim countries? Do you even know how many Muslim countries there are in the world? I want some links to these so called kidnappings and beheadings of Westerners that are apparently plentiful in the "Muslim world". And I don't don't want to see Paul Johnson and Daniel Pearl as your precious examples.
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Re: Peace in the Middle East [Re: Basilides]
#5913259 - 07/29/06 09:39 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Basilides said: In the Muslim countries you will get your ass killed or kidnapped and decapitated.
Complete utter bullshit. Do you know how many expats are currently in Muslim countries? Do you even know how many Muslim countries there are in the world? I want some links to these so called kidnappings and beheadings of Westerners that are apparently plentiful in the "Muslim world". And I don't don't want to see Paul Johnson and Daniel Pearl as your precious examples.
Those two precious examples are it. Find me an article about an American tourist getting kidnapped by Israeli forces and then tortured.
You forget the massacre in Egypt? Point is that a lot of muslims and arabs hate us. Jews love us. End of story. Israel is an ally we can always depend on for whatever, as for the others... they're disposable. They're just as disposable as Saddam and Osama even though Osama is still breathing.
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Re: Peace in the Middle East [Re: downforpot]
#5913382 - 07/29/06 10:35 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm not denying that there's alot of animosity towards America in the Muslim world (gee, I wonder why?). I'm just stating that this doesn't make Muslim governments "puppets". Muslim governments, like all countries, are interested in the rule of law, hence why police officers in Muslim countries literally give their lives at times fighting fundamentalist fuckwits - fundamentalist fuckwits who justify killing their own countrymen along the "puppetry" line. They are not fucking puppets anymore than Iraqi police dying for their country are "puppets".
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Re: Peace in the Middle East [Re: Basilides]
#5913528 - 07/29/06 11:43 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Basilides said: I'm not denying that there's alot of animosity towards America in the Muslim world (gee, I wonder why?). I'm just stating that this doesn't make Muslim governments "puppets". Muslim governments, like all countries, are interested in the rule of law, hence why police officers in Muslim countries literally give their lives at times fighting fundamentalist fuckwits - fundamentalist fuckwits who justify killing their own countrymen along the "puppetry" line. They are not fucking puppets anymore than Iraqi police dying for their country are "puppets".
The Iraqi police are killing eachother, they are killing other Iraqis in a sectarian wave of violence. And that shit about people dressing in police and army uniforms and then killing people is BULLSHIT, they are the police. So basically it is all fucked for Iraq. That country needs to be split up.
Fuck Iraq, fuck that country, and fuck those people. They have been slaughtering eachother since Muhammad croaked so I say take sides with some Muslim countries, make em puppets, let the cycle continue to our advantage.
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Re: Peace in the Middle East [Re: downforpot]
#5913625 - 07/30/06 12:19 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Tell that to the Iraqi police men women, and soldiers who are risking their lives engaging in combat with both terrorist Sunnis and Shi'ites. Puppets? Bull-fucking-shit. These are Iraqi family men who are fucking dying so that Iraqi families and their kids don't get blown up by criminal scum.

See that? Do you see it? That's someone who loves their country and serves the rule of law - and are willing to risk life and limb serving and protecting the innocent.
These are the true shaheeds of Iraq, the true martyrs of Islam.
How dare you call them "puppets".
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Re: Peace in the Middle East [Re: Basilides]
#5914598 - 07/30/06 10:32 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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i think they will learn to respect one another if jews started cutting their enemies heads off with a fishing knife on webcam, i mean i've never seen them do that before, i think muslims would respect that
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Re: Peace in the Middle East [Re: Basilides]
#5915257 - 07/30/06 03:07 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Basilides said: Tell that to the Iraqi police men women, and soldiers who are risking their lives engaging in combat with both terrorist Sunnis and Shi'ites. Puppets? Bull-fucking-shit. These are Iraqi family men who are fucking dying so that Iraqi families and their kids don't get blown up by criminal scum.

See that? Do you see it? That's someone who loves their country and serves the rule of law - and are willing to risk life and limb serving and protecting the innocent.
These are the true shaheeds of Iraq, the true martyrs of Islam.
How dare you call them "puppets".
Considering that they are killing eachother at the rate of 100 a day... country is a shithole at the moment. That country needs a tyrant.
Saddam controlled 25 million of uncontrollable people.
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Re: Peace in the Middle East [Re: downforpot]
#5915268 - 07/30/06 03:10 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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25 million? There aren't even 100,000 insurgents. Pretty much a bunch of sectarian death squads are tearing the place apart.
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Re: Peace in the Middle East [Re: Basilides]
#5915500 - 07/30/06 04:21 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Basilides said: 25 million? There aren't even 100,000 insurgents. Pretty much a bunch of sectarian death squads are tearing the place apart.
And the death squads are supported by the local population. It's not like they are foreign fighters. The death squads are made up of Iraqis from Sunni and Shia and as more die, more Iraqis take their place in the militias. So there are 25 million people which are currently at eachother's throats.
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Re: Peace in the Middle East [Re: downforpot]
#5915543 - 07/30/06 04:29 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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And the death squads are supported by the local population.
Link, please.
It's not like they are foreign fighters.
Link, please.
The death squads are made up of Iraqis from Sunni and Shia and as more die, more Iraqis take their place in the militias. So there are 25 million people which are currently at eachother's throats.
Again, provide some evidence for half the shit you're claiming here. There aren't even 100,000 insurgents so your claim that "25 million people are at eachother's throats" is complete bullshit.
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Re: Peace in the Middle East [Re: Basilides]
#5915613 - 07/30/06 04:56 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sectarian_violence_in_Iraq
Look through that and all the articles that were cited.
You and I know both fucking know that the foreign fighers don't play much of a role now because it has become a small scale civil war. And I know you fucking know what civil war means. All that Al Qaedo did is attack the Shia with a small number of individuals to piss off the Shia and get them to attack the Sunnis and now it is pretty much on auto-pilot.
Honestly man, all the shit you want links for is pretty much common sense. Just read the Wiki article.
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Re: Peace in the Middle East [Re: downforpot]
#5915731 - 07/30/06 05:34 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm still waiting for evidence that 25 million Iraqis are "at each others throats". I didn't mention foreign fighters, you did. There is a civil war in Iraq between several thousand Sunni and Shi'ite radicals. What is bullshit is your 25 million claim. Why can't you just admit it was hot wind?
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Re: Peace in the Middle East [Re: Basilides]
#5915763 - 07/30/06 05:43 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Basilides said: I'm still waiting for evidence that 25 million Iraqis are "at each others throats". I didn't mention foreign fighters, you did. There is a civil war in Iraq between several thousand Sunni and Shi'ite radicals. What is bullshit is your 25 million claim. Why can't you just admit it was hot wind?
WTF are you talking about? You honestly think 25 million will fight all at once?!?!?!?! Did the entire population of US fight all at once during the Civil War? That's fucking impossible man. But the entire population of the US was at war. Each side provided thousands of troops to fight the war. That is what's going on in Iraq right now. The Shias and the Sunnis are basically slaughtering eachother.
Also, wtf did you mean when I said "It's not like they are foreign fighters." and then you asked me for a fucking link? I said it's not the foreign fighters. I might have mentioned them but I specifically said that they are not the ones going around in army and police uniforms and setting up checkpoints and executing everyone.
You have basically lost the arguement and have resorted ot symantic bullshit. It is a small scale civil war in Iraq, END OF FUCKING STORY.
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Re: Peace in the Middle East [Re: downforpot]
#5915768 - 07/30/06 05:44 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hot wind it is, then.
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Re: Peace in the Middle East [Re: Basilides]
#5917225 - 07/31/06 12:14 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Basilides said: And the death squads are supported by the local population.
Link, please.
It's not like they are foreign fighters.
Link, please.
The death squads are made up of Iraqis from Sunni and Shia and as more die, more Iraqis take their place in the militias. So there are 25 million people which are currently at eachother's throats.
Again, provide some evidence for half the shit you're claiming here. There aren't even 100,000 insurgents so your claim that "25 million people are at eachother's throats" is complete bullshit.
sometimes evidence isnt needed if you open your fucking eyes
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Re: Peace in the Middle East [Re: quiver]
#5917251 - 07/31/06 12:20 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I would at least expect to see some evidence coming from the unmitigated light of truth
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