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NATO belongs in Lebanon
    #5897813 - 07/25/06 01:15 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

NATO belongs in Lebanon

National Post

Published: Tuesday, July 25, 2006

We have a lot of respect for Condoleezza Rice. For the U.S. Secretary of State, who is currently in the midst of a whirlwind Middle East tour, the path of least diplomatic resistance would have been to echo the widespread call for an immediate ceasefire in the war between Hezbollah and Israel. But to her great credit -- and that of her boss, President George W. Bush -- she didn't. Instead, this week, she told Lebanese officials that any ceasefire would have to be part of a broader deal that included Hezbollah's withdrawal from Lebanon's border with Israel, and the deployment of an international force to guard the peace. "The situation on the border cannot return to what it was before July 12," Ms. Rice declared. She's also said she wants to avoid any deal that produces a "false promise" which leads to "a guarantee of future violence."

The idea of a "ceasefire" always sounds appealing on its face. War is hell, after all. But in this case, a ceasefire without conditions would only lead to more war. Hezbollah would claim that its rocket attacks had tamed the mighty Zionists, and cast the stillborn ground war as proof that Israel was afraid of confronting Hezbollah's Jihadis. Rather than discourage future attacks -- Israel's goal in its ongoing campaign -- Hezbollah would be encouraged to send more rockets and terrorists into Israel in the days to come. As Ms. Rice says, such a peace would be a false one.

No war goes on forever. And this one will likely end in a week or two. By that time, we hope, Israel will have destroyed a sufficient quantity of Hezbollah materiel and killed a sufficient number of jihadis to render risible any claim to victory by Hezbollah or its puppetmasters in Tehran and Damascus. We also hope Israeli troops end the operation in full control of the Lebanese side of the Israel-Lebanon border, including the villages where Hezbollah's assets are concentrated.

The question is: What then? There is no such thing as a power vacuum in the Middle East. When the Israeli army evacuates Lebanon, Hezbollah will simply reoccupy the territory -- unless a third-party force lays claim. Ideally, that force would be the Lebanese army. But there seems little hope of that: Lebanon's military is weak, and its leadership has been co-opted by Hezbollah sympathizers. Any effort to deploy the army in southern Lebanon could lead to civil war.

So who should be keeping the peace in southern Lebanon? Kofi Annan, naturally, thinks it should be the United Nations. So does Lebanese Prime Minister Fouad Siniora, who claims that any peacekeeping force deployed to his country must fly the UN flag.

But if this job does go to the UN, Israel will have waged its war of self-defence for nothing. The fact is, the United Nations already has a 2,000-strong peacekeeping force in Lebanon called UNIFIL. It's hasn't lifted a finger to stop attacks on Israel. And given the poisonous anti-Israel bias that suffuses the UN, we shouldn't expect any new force deployed under the blue banner to be any different.
The best course -- which has been proposed by the United States and greeted favourably by Israel -- is to deploy a well-armed NATO contingent with a robust combat mandate. This force would not be a doormat-style UN force, but one akin to the allied force currently engaging the Taliban in the south of Afghanistan.

Deploying such a force -- preferably under UN auspices, and preferably including a strong Canadian contingent -- would send exactly the right message to Hezbollah and its bosses in Iran: that the West stands united behind Israel in its fight against militant Islam, and that any unprovoked attack on Israel is an attack on civilized nations everywhere.

© National Post2006

http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/news/story.html?id=077ed0b9-6ff3-4051-95ea-9f13ee35a9d1&p=2

What NATO country has extra troops to send to Lebanon????

Germany?

that would be interesting, Germans protecting Jews....


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Re: NATO belongs in Lebanon [Re: lonestar2004]
    #5897842 - 07/25/06 01:21 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

"including a strong Canadian contingent"

Could the Canadians do this themselves????

Canada versus Hezbollah.

I don't believe it.


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Re: NATO belongs in Lebanon [Re: lonestar2004]
    #5898038 - 07/25/06 02:19 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Why is that so hard to believe? A Canadian is also currently running the show in Afghanistan, not to mention the fact that Canada is very highly respected when it comes to peace keeping missions.


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Re: NATO belongs in Lebanon [Re: Rono]
    #5898066 - 07/25/06 02:31 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

I meant No disrespect to the Canucks. but what happens when Hezbollah starts killing NATO Canadians? This could get very interesting....


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Re: NATO belongs in Lebanon [Re: lonestar2004]
    #5898088 - 07/25/06 02:37 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Canadians are dying in Afghanistan too...I would assume that comes with the territory of being in the middle of a war zone. :wink:


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Re: NATO belongs in Lebanon [Re: Rono]
    #5898098 - 07/25/06 02:40 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

I still don't believe it will happen. (I hope it does)

I think its just a clever ploy by Israel and the U.S. telling the rest of the world to put up or shut the fuck up...


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Re: NATO belongs in Lebanon [Re: lonestar2004]
    #5898115 - 07/25/06 02:48 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

I don't believe ANY of my countrymen should die for this crap. The same goes for Afghanistan. As far as I'm concerned Israel can do whatever it wants, I don't care anymore, just as long as no Canadians die fighting their battles.


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Re: NATO belongs in Lebanon [Re: Hank, FTW]
    #5898151 - 07/25/06 02:59 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

oh shit! you are Canadian?

I bet it will drive you nuts if your countrymen save those rotten Jeeeeeeeeews with your tax money.


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Re: NATO belongs in Lebanon [Re: lonestar2004]
    #5898368 - 07/25/06 04:06 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

lonestar2004 said:
oh shit! you are Canadian?

I bet it will drive you nuts if your countrymen save those rotten Jeeeeeeeeews with your tax money.




Stop trolling.

It will drive me nuts if my countrymen DIE saving any foreign people who start wars which they do not intend to finish on their own.


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Re: NATO belongs in Lebanon [Re: Hank, FTW]
    #5902406 - 07/26/06 06:53 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Chirac Opposes NATO Force in Lebanon (France Surrenders in Advance)


French President Jacques Chirac said Wednesday that NATO should not lead a proposed international force in Lebanon, saying the alliance is seen in the region as "the armed wing of the West."

"As far as France is concerned, it is not NATO's mission to put together such a force," Chirac told the daily newspaper Le Monde. "Whether we like it or not, NATO is perceived as the armed wing of the West in these regions, and as a result, in terms of image, NATO is not intended for this."

Israel has suggested it would prefer a NATO-led coalition in Lebanon, not the traditional UN peacekeeping force that has tried but failed to bring peace to Lebanon over the last three decades.

France has said a multinational force should be placed under United Nations authority.

Chirac's comments were published as officials from the United States, Europe and several Arab nations met in Rome to try to agree on a plan for ending more than two weeks of fighting between Israel and Hizbullah guerillas.

Meanwhile, Vice Premier Shimon Peres said Wednesday that without Israel, there would be no bilateral solution to the Middle East crisis. Peres made his remarks in response to the fact that Israel was not represented at the Rome conference.
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1153292002139


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