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Panting tub black is good enough?
    #5896739 - 07/25/06 01:06 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I painted my dish tubs black to block out light but some light still gets through. Not verty much and only when directly pointed at the bright bulb and close to it. Should this block out all light also here is the pic its still a little wet.



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Re: Panting tub black is good enough? [Re: mikeownow]
    #5896752 - 07/25/06 01:08 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

put another coat on them. I too painted my tubs..


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Re: Panting tub black is good enough? [Re: Yamidude]
    #5896756 - 07/25/06 01:10 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I actualy did put 2 coats on but the 2nd wasnt as thick, however when I did do the 2nd coat the 1st one wasnt completely dry but dry enough to run my hand accross and not get paint on me but still sticky feeling.


Should I do another coat when it is totaly dry?


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Re: Panting tub black is good enough? [Re: mikeownow]
    #5896762 - 07/25/06 01:12 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

iono i used one coat of the ultra flat camo paint i had in the garage. it blocked all the light..


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Re: Panting tub black is good enough? [Re: mikeownow]
    #5896767 - 07/25/06 01:13 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Moving & sliding them around, will scape off paint, often resulting in side/bottom pinning. :mad2:

Better to NEST one tub into the other, with a layer of aluminum foil, between the 2 trays.

NO LIGHT, will get through that combination.

Or, line a tray with aluminum foil, then line over the top of the foil with garbage bag material.

No light will get through that combination, either.

Trays are inexpensive, so is aluminum foil & garbage bags.


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Re: Panting tub black is good enough? [Re: mikeownow]
    #5896769 - 07/25/06 01:14 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

> Should I do another coat when it is totaly dry?

Yes, you HAVE to. If any light gets to the shrooms they will either be totally destroyed or turn deadly poisonous.


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Re: Panting tub black is good enough? [Re: fastfred]
    #5896777 - 07/25/06 01:18 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Does fastfred really know anything or does he just troll around. I will upgrade to the 2 tub tech you have described but for now me and my paint will have to work. I have thought it through and since under my bed wich is were the poo will be during colonisation and its dark dark down there as is, with the black paint and the thickness of the tub it should be good for incubation/colonisation I hope =X. By the time I am ready to initiate pinning I should have the 2 tubs. w/ tin foil and garbage bag etc.


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Re: Panting tub black is good enough? [Re: fastfred]
    #5896780 - 07/25/06 01:19 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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> Should I do another coat when it is totaly dry?

Yes, you HAVE to.  If any light gets to the shrooms they will either be totally destroyed or turn deadly poisonous.


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Re: Panting tub black is good enough? [Re: fastfred]
    #5896796 - 07/25/06 01:25 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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> Should I do another coat when it is totaly dry?

Yes, you HAVE to. If any light gets to the shrooms they will either be totally destroyed or turn deadly poisonous.


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Light & FAE induces/triggers pinning.
Light gives shrooms the direction to grow (upward).



Colonized substrate exposed to light, on the sides or bottom, will induce pinning under the substrate.
Those shrooms will grow, then ROT.

Not a good thing.


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Re: Panting tub black is good enough? [Re: Tippinthru]
    #5896802 - 07/25/06 01:28 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

so basically make sure you have a very solid coating of paint or go for the foil....


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Re: Panting tub black is good enough? [Re: Yamidude]
    #5896859 - 07/25/06 01:47 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

> so basically make sure you have a very solid coating of paint or go for the foil....

That won't be good enough. What you really need to do is hire a blind man to do all the casing in total darkness. Even one photon can ruin your entire grow. That's IF you're lucky, otherwise your strain might produce the deadly photocybin if any light hits the sides.

Best to use at least 6 coats of flat black paint, a black plastic bag on the inside, foil on the outside covered by another black bag. Then put another tub under that also painted with 6 or more coats. Then use the blind man to do all the casing. I know that sounds like a lot, but it's absolutely essential.


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Re: Panting tub black is good enough? [Re: fastfred]
    #5896930 - 07/25/06 02:16 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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> so basically make sure you have a very solid coating of paint or go for the foil....

That won't be good enough. What you really need to do is hire a blind man to do all the casing in total darkness. Even one photon can ruin your entire grow. That's IF you're lucky, otherwise your strain might produce the deadly photocybin if any light hits the sides.

Best to use at least 6 coats of flat black paint, a black plastic bag on the inside, foil on the outside covered by another black bag. Then put another tub under that also painted with 6 or more coats. Then use the blind man to do all the casing. I know that sounds like a lot, but it's absolutely essential.


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I hired Geordi LaForge to do all my work in the dark. However I'm half inclined to think he just has them synthisised in that machine he has access to on the Enterprise... He gets the job done, for cheap too. Look into it.

If you can't afford that then you probably just want to use a double layered trashbag under your bulk sub.


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Re: Panting tub black is good enough? [Re: Capless]
    #5897229 - 07/25/06 06:15 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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> so basically make sure you have a very solid coating of paint or go for the foil....

That won't be good enough. What you really need to do is hire a blind man to do all the casing in total darkness. Even one photon can ruin your entire grow. That's IF you're lucky, otherwise your strain might produce the deadly photocybin if any light hits the sides.

Best to use at least 6 coats of flat black paint, a black plastic bag on the inside, foil on the outside covered by another black bag. Then put another tub under that also painted with 6 or more coats. Then use the blind man to do all the casing. I know that sounds like a lot, but it's absolutely essential.


-FF




I hired Geordi LaForge to do all my work in the dark. However I'm half inclined to think he just has them synthisised in that machine he has access to on the Enterprise... He gets the job done, for cheap too. Look into it.

If you can't afford that then you probably just want to use a double layered trashbag under your bulk sub.



I don't no I've gouged out both my eyes and stuck a light bulb up my ass and it really hasn't helped MUCH! Thanks fastfred!


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Re: Panting tub black is good enough? [Re: hyphae]
    #5897359 - 07/25/06 08:00 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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photocybin


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Re: Panting tub black is good enough? [Re: Cubenisseur]
    #5897414 - 07/25/06 08:26 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Panting tub black is good enough? [Re: EquilibriuM]
    #5897461 - 07/25/06 08:45 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Y not just buy something to put your subs in, that's OFUCKINGPAQUE!!!!!

If you don't have extra money, don't try, going ghetto becomes MORE expensive then spending the money to do it right the first time...

it's like, measure twice, cut once.


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Re: Panting tub black is good enough? [Re: jeetered]
    #5897607 - 07/25/06 09:53 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

The new spray paint that is used to spray paint plastic works amazing.


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Re: Panting tub black is good enough? [Re: Chrissss]
    #5897683 - 07/25/06 10:28 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Wouldn't a roll of duct tape be alot cheaper and go alot furthur than spray paint? I know it would be about an assload more effective than the paint. Wrap the tubs in duct tape and be done with it, man...save some time and some scratch.

Still lmfao @ photocybin!


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Re: Panting tub black is good enough? [Re: ComfortablyStond]
    #5897709 - 07/25/06 10:37 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Big Lots carries Sterlite brand tubs that are grey... I also saw x-mas style totes there which are green and red. They also had black containers w/ grey lids, but I didn't like their shape.

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Re: Panting tub black is good enough? [Re: ghostofbmarley]
    #5897735 - 07/25/06 10:49 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

i have expirience with this...
so i painted a purple rubbermaid tub black. i built a casing inside the tub and set it on the rack/shelf. each rack had a fluerescent light on it to serve the tub below. i thought that the paint would block the light from the shelf below.
this casing colonized and all but it only popped one or two tiny boomers out thru the casing layer. i figured something had gone really wrong. i brought it outside to chuck it...
when i opened up the casing i found a full three inchs of intertwined funki fungus material. a solid mass of knotted up mushrooms under the substrate. it was interesting to say the least but i would rather that not happen again.


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Re: Panting tub black is good enough? [Re: ghostofbmarley]
    #5897738 - 07/25/06 10:50 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

don't you just love asking a question and getting a bunch of suggestions of how else you could have done it, without anybody answering the question?



people bring up good points but, to actually answer your question, black spray paint works for me :thumbup:  using a proper type meant for painting plastic means it won't scratch off easily or peel.  if in doubt to your opaqueness, add another coat or two, no biggie.

covering a container with aluminum foil or duct tape is all well and good... but foil is shiny, and the sticky side of duct tape is white.  both such things reflect light.  when used on a transparent container... your substrate shrinks a little, and voila, you have light now reflecting onto the sides of your substrate... busted.


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Re: Panting tub black is good enough? [Re: creamcorn]
    #5897754 - 07/25/06 10:57 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

wow this thread got gay extremely fast..


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Re: Panting tub black is good enough? [Re: Yamidude]
    #5897790 - 07/25/06 11:06 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I've been using duct tape. So far so good.


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Re: Panting tub black is good enough? [Re: beyondsisxth]
    #5897805 - 07/25/06 11:12 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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I've been using duct tape. So far so good.




i dont mean to imply it doesnt work, ive used it many times as well.

i just think its funny how people ask questions all the time, and get lots of answers that aren't answers to the question that was asked. :smile:

i just say do what works for you.  if this fine young lad wishes to paint his containers then by all means... knock yourself out (haha figuratively of course, watch those fumes..) :crazy2:


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Re: Panting tub black is good enough? [Re: creamcorn]
    #5900181 - 07/25/06 10:52 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I had duck taped it befor I painted it but when I held it up to the light, well it was completely see through. My other 2 tubs have black electrical tape and they are solid ligh proff. Anyway I am still with the spray paint and will pick up 2 more tubs and some more tin foil tommorow.


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Re: Panting tub black is good enough? [Re: mikeownow]
    #5900197 - 07/25/06 10:54 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

you can also go to the pet section at wallyworld and get kitty litter trays. They have a few different sizes and they are solid in color..


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Re: Panting tub black is good enough? [Re: Yamidude]
    #5900445 - 07/25/06 11:44 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

ive used duct tape with zero problems.

if youre not a pussy about tin foil than here's an idea from that stranger agar,
just line the bottom with foil. it will block 100% of the light, and as the casing shrinks it takes the foil with it. then you dont have to fill the gap around the edges as the flushes go on.
For those using DT/MT, it will pull away from the sides, allowing condensation to pass harmlessly to the bottom and not onto your casing.
Lastly, it makes it extremely easy to clean up!


(26 post later it still says PANTING... maybe someone might know someone who could look into that...)


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Re: Panting tub black is good enough? [Re: Omnicracker]
    #5900469 - 07/25/06 11:48 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

but doesn't mycology make you pant???


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Re: Panting tub black is good enough? [Re: Yamidude]
    #5900492 - 07/25/06 11:51 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I was gonna just put tin foil in the 1st tub and then set this tub on the tinfoil in the other tub because I am a pussy about tin foil and I smoked sme tin foil on accident wile frebaseing a oxy on the stove and that is more tinfoil than I need for the rest of my life to consume.


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Re: Panting tub black is good enough? [Re: mikeownow]
    #5900541 - 07/26/06 12:03 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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I smoked sme tin foil on accident wile frebaseing a oxy on the stove



:eek:  i hate when that happens...

if i can say this without it hijacking the thread... but IME there is no Al in the fungus you eat, at least not enough that it should be any concern.  unless of course youre eating POUNDS of fungus, in which case you probably have a few other problems that need attention first... :crazy2:


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Re: Panting tub black is good enough? [Re: Omnicracker]
    #5900553 - 07/26/06 12:05 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

But I fear alshimers my grampa was shitting his pants and thought he was 10


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Re: Panting tub black is good enough? [Re: mikeownow]
    #5900563 - 07/26/06 12:07 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

heh. A lot of people believe it's the acidity and enzymes in myc 'piss' that dissolve aluminum, and that the actual myc does not 'eat' the aluminum.


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Re: Panting tub black is good enough? [Re: liamtheloser]
    #5900589 - 07/26/06 12:11 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

not worth shitting in my pants over.


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Re: Panting tub black is good enough? [Re: mikeownow]
    #5900595 - 07/26/06 12:12 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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But I fear alshimers my grampa was shitting his pants and thought he was 10


i think it's spelling and grammar that you fear.  :tongue:


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Re: Panting tub black is good enough? [Re: Yamidude]
    #5900600 - 07/26/06 12:13 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I dare not use proper spelling or grammomma


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Re: Panting tub black is good enough? [Re: mikeownow]
    #5900643 - 07/26/06 12:22 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

do you use deoderant?

if so you probably rub aluminum in your armpits every day.

do you drink tap water?

if so, you're drinking trace aluminum particles

have you ever taken an antacid or aspirin?

then you've eaten some aluminum straight up



theres *tons* of sources of aluminum that find its way into your body on a daily basis. lets just say hypothetically myc just chows the shit down and sucks it up like a sponge. even still, the few grams of mushrooms you eat now and again would pale in comparison to all these other daily activities. if you have healthy kidneys, your body filters it out. just because some alzhiemers patients had higher levels of aluminum in their brains in some study 20 years ago doesnt mean one thing caused the other; old people's kidneys aren't so efficient either... so there's lots of possible explanations.

i think its silly to worry about...


besides, shitting your pants is FUN. don't knock it til you've tried it.


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Re: Panting tub black is good enough? [Re: mikeownow]
    #5900646 - 07/26/06 12:22 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

werd.

SAY NO to DEODORENTS!
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Re: Panting tub black is good enough? [Re: Omnicracker]
    #5900650 - 07/26/06 12:24 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

there is nothing silly about not wanting to poop your pants lol.


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Re: Panting tub black is good enough? [Re: Omnicracker]
    #5900652 - 07/26/06 12:24 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

not to mention the pharmeceutical industry is about THIS close to perfecting a cure... oh well, some people will always worry... it's the whole paranoid drug dealer psyche...


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Re: Panting tub black is good enough? [Re: liamtheloser]
    #5900673 - 07/26/06 12:32 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

metal = death like remember when mercury was in science kits I sure know I don't but my parents do.


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Re: Panting tub black is good enough? [Re: mikeownow]
    #5900717 - 07/26/06 12:47 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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mikeownow said:
metal = death like remember when mercury was in science kits I sure know I don't but my parents do.




I think my friends Iron, Zinc, Calcium, and Potassium would like to talk to you about that. It seems someones been going around calling them death....


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Re: Panting tub black is good enough? [Re: Omnicracker]
    #5900723 - 07/26/06 12:49 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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mikeownow said:
metal = death like remember when mercury was in science kits I sure know I don't but my parents do.




I think my friends Iron, Zinc, Calcium, and Potassium would like to talk to you about that.  It seems someones been going around calling them death....


prolly too much basin oxy's on the stove.. :crazy2:


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Re: Panting tub black is good enough? [Re: Yamidude]
    #5900740 - 07/26/06 12:54 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

mmm oxy =D I mean nooo yesss


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Re: Panting tub black is good enough? [Re: mikeownow]
    #5900917 - 07/26/06 02:14 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Shame. You'll be sucking dick for that shit before too long.


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