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Calculations
    #5896412 - 07/24/06 11:37 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I was wondering since I am doing a bulk grow, how much mushrooms would be spawned if I used 50 lbs of hpoo with a LC(of courses the LC doesn't really matter, just the weight).

I recall seeing this on before, but could not turn up any searches for the amount of casing weight to harvested weight. Any help would be greatly appreciated.


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Re: Calculations [Re: TrancedShroom]
    #5896419 - 07/24/06 11:40 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

uhh, what?

you're going to try to inject 50 lbs of hpoo with an LC syringe? in that case, 0 mushrooms would be 'spawned' (i'm assuming you mean harvested)

and what is casing weight harvested weight? do you mean the dry weight as opposed to wet weight? and of what, the mushrooms? the substrate?

wow, i've never been more confused in my life... other than the time I accidently had sex with my cousin before i knew it was her...


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Re: Calculations [Re: TrancedShroom]
    #5896422 - 07/24/06 11:41 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Answer----> NONE.

LC to substrate does not work.

LC --> grains --> spawned --> h/poo-> cased

Is how it works.


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Re: Calculations [Re: Tippinthru]
    #5896424 - 07/24/06 11:42 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

wow, thanks tippin, you just assured me that I wasn't so drunk that I couldn't understand a simple question... haha.


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Re: Calculations [Re: Tippinthru]
    #5896428 - 07/24/06 11:43 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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Tippinthru said:
Answer----> NONE.

LC to substrate does not work.

LC --> grains --> spawned --> h/poo-> cased

Is how it works.




YOU ARE WRONG. LC TO SUBSTRATE DOES WORK. I inject LC straight into my sterilized hpoo/wbs mix in my spawn bag and it colonizes within days.


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Re: Calculations [Re: Liquidkick]
    #5896437 - 07/24/06 11:46 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

does your spawn bag weigh 50 lbs?

Also, you just said yourself that your spawn bag is wbs/hpoo... He was asking how many shrooms he'd get by injecting an LC into 50lbs of hpoo.


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Re: Calculations [Re: liamtheloser]
    #5896445 - 07/24/06 11:49 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

NO, no, no.....maybe you are drunk or am I? What the question was and not meant to be viewed off of, was how much mushroom weight would be generated from 50lbs of casing(hpoo). I am using liquid culture to ensure faster and more reliable growth(I just thought I would include that).


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Re: Calculations [Re: liamtheloser]
    #5896449 - 07/24/06 11:50 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Oh, and not to mention... There's absolutely no way to predict how many mushrooms you'll get off of it anyhow.

Just because you buy 50 lbs of horse shit, doesn't mean all that horse shit will colonize without contams or without stalling out, etc. Not to mention, if you were going to do a bulk grow like that, I'd use a master culture or clone to innoc with... wouldn't want the chance of getting shitty or slow fruits.

Anyways, I think you need to do a little more reading before you attempt such a big bulk.


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Re: Calculations [Re: Liquidkick]
    #5896458 - 07/24/06 11:52 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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Liquidkick said:
Quote:

Tippinthru said:
Answer----> NONE.

LC to substrate does not work.

LC --> grains --> spawned --> h/poo-> cased

Is how it works.




YOU ARE WRONG.  LC TO SUBSTRATE DOES WORK.  I inject LC straight into my sterilized hpoo/wbs mix in my spawn bag and it colonizes within days.




Under certain circumstance, YES it will work.

You are using a h/poo/wbs mix. That will work, under some circumstance.

He made no mention of WBS, or bags.

The only substrate I am aware of that will work with LC, is "agar's" Myco~Nitro.

Blue Helix used it, mixed, in bags.

Other combinations will also work, but it takes experience.
Which the guy asking questions, appears to lack.

50 lbs of h/poo, injected with LC, in trays, or tubs would generally/normally --> FAIL.

So, I am not exactly WRONG. :grin: :tongue: :wink:


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Re: Calculations [Re: TrancedShroom]
    #5896490 - 07/24/06 11:59 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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NO, no, no.....maybe you are drunk or am I? What the question was and not meant to be viewed off of, was how much mushroom weight would be generated from 50lbs of casing(hpoo). I am using liquid culture to ensure faster and more reliable growth(I just thought I would include that).




CASING = one thing.

H/poo SUBSTRATE = something else.


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Re: Calculations [Re: Tippinthru]
    #5896496 - 07/25/06 12:00 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

maybe everyone missed this:


Oh, and not to mention... There's absolutely no way to predict how many mushrooms you'll get off any given weight of substrate anyhow.


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Re: Calculations [Re: Tippinthru]
    #5896497 - 07/25/06 12:00 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

No straight injections will be made from LC to casing. Yes, I did read somewhere where you could sum up a pretty good approximation of shroom weight from casing weight(maybe I was wrong) I was just trying to clarufy that.

I can do the bulk grow. No problem. Just wanted to know if whoever(mod) that said that was true was actually correct.

Just felt like getting a general concensus from everyone.


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Re: Calculations [Re: TrancedShroom]
    #5896506 - 07/25/06 12:03 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

B/E = biological efficiency.

50 lbs dry weight substrate @ 100% B/E = 50 lbs fresh fruit weight.

Cubes can do 100, 150, 200, even 250% B/E.

Under optimal circumstance.

KEYWORD = OPTIMAL


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Re: Calculations [Re: TrancedShroom]
    #5896509 - 07/25/06 12:04 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I think what you might be thinking is that if you harvest 10 lbs of wet mushrooms off your casing, you'll end up with 1 lb dry. But that has nothing to do with how heavy your poop is.

If by some small miracle all your poo colonizes and survives to fruiting, your harvest will all depend on your pinset, the amount of hydration that's provided to your casings, the depth of your substrate, the substrains that have decided to fruit, etc etc etc etc etc... there's so many variables that there's absolutely no way to approximate your yield just by weighing your bulk substrate.


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