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Psycadelic Era
    #589607 - 03/26/02 03:21 AM (15 years, 5 months ago)

What happened to the psycadelic era of the late sixties and early 70's?
I know people are still doing them, but what to the wonder it used to give. And the idea that hallucinogenics, and meditaion may aid us in evolution. Have people just lost interest in the whole idea? Mushrooms and other pyscadelics must have been put of earth for some reason.


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Re: Psycadelic Era [Re: Squid]
    #590790 - 03/27/02 07:48 AM (15 years, 5 months ago)

Read "Storming Heaven"



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Re: Psycadelic Era [Re: Squid]
    #591396 - 03/27/02 11:45 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

The great Hunter S Thompson has written some great stuff on what happend to the psychedelic era. Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas is about the end of this era in a way. I'll post this one article in particular when I get a chance thats is just golden. He lays it all down very accurately, almost prophetically, if you ask me.


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Re: Psycadelic Era [Re: Floydian]
    #593707 - 03/30/02 03:24 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

is this the passage you are thinking of?

"...the kind of peak that never comes again. san francisco in the middle sixties was a very special time and place to be a part of. maybe it MEANT SOMETHING. maybe not, in the long run...but no explanation, no mix of words or music or memories can touch that sense of knowing that you were there and alive in that corner of time and the world. whatever it meant...
history is hard to know, because of all the hired bullshit, but even without being sure of 'history' it seems entirely reasonable to think that every now and then the energy of a whole generation comes to a head in a long fine flash,for reasons that nobody understands at the time- and which never explain, in retrospect, what actually happened...
there was madness in any direction, at any hour. if not across the bay, then up the golden gate or down 101 to los altos or la honda...you could strike sparks anywhere. there was a fantastic universal sense that whatever we were doing was RIGHT, that we were winning... and that, i think, was the handle-that sense of inevitable victory over the forces of old and evil. not in any mean or military sense; we didn't need that. our energy would simply PREVAIL. there was no point in fighting- on our side or theirs. we had all the momentum; we were riding the crest of a high and beautiful wave...
so now, less than five years later, you can go up on a steep hill in las vegas and look west, and with the right kind of eyes you can almost SEE the high water mark...that place where the wave finally broke and rolled back."

-Hunter Thompson, Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas

yes, a very poignant passage. i encourage anyone into this scene to read fear andloathing...thompson is brilliant at this time that he was inventing 'Gonzo Journalism'. for those of you who don't read, the movie DOES NOT do it. while it follows the book very closely (word for word at times),thompson is a WRITER, this stuff was meant to be READ, not VIEWED. reading it is an absolute gas...but watching them act it out is almost too horrible.



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Re: Psycadelic Era [Re: magnu]
    #5823761 - 07/05/06 04:11 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

the punk scene blew out the old hippie ways. kids were thinkin the old hippies were outta their minds, too big of dreamers. so they all jusmped on the sex pistol bandwagon and thought it was cool to be punk.


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Re: Psycadelic Era [Re: hippie_cune]
    #5823854 - 07/05/06 04:46 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah. The word "Hippie" has recieved a negative connotation over the years. Free thinking was considered dangerous. They did a good job to end that "era."


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Re: Psycadelic Era [Re: Squid]
    #5823880 - 07/05/06 04:55 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Times always change. The opression of the conservative 50's was answered by the rebellion of the youth in the 60's which was followed with the mass marketing to rebellious youth in the 70's that gave rise to mass consumption in the 80's wich assured media dominance in the 90's so that now we have a major conservative push backed by massive corporate dollars that tends to follow Calvinist ideals (the 50's all over, only worse).

So wear Levis Jeans, drink Coke and listen to your Apple I-pod and you'll go to heaven with all of the other fat wealthy white kids. Or you can help fight back by refusing to let the corporate machine sell you your identity. Speak out against war, violence, sexism, racism, matertialism, destruction of the environment, advertising, corporate music etc. After all, it was the political and social context of the 60's that brought the psycadelic movement. The drugs and the music came AFTER it was established, they were a product of the movement, not at all the cause.


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Re: Psycadelic Era [Re: no_satori]
    #5824086 - 07/05/06 05:45 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Big companies started marketing towards the hippies. It lost its meaning when everyone in America cashed in on the movement and people viewed it as a style, rather than a thought process-a way of life. The people the movement was against joined the movement, thus making it void of any power.


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Re: Psycadelic Era [Re: FalseAlternative]
    #5824195 - 07/05/06 06:09 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

the psychedelic movement took a big hit when people started getting arrested. the movement is not dead though, it has evolved just as it should. you no longer have people who are just a part of it to be a part of it. it is starting to be that the people who are apart of it realize how important it is. they are coming at it with the knowledge of what happened in the 60s and how to approach it different. it sucks that it cant be the free for all that it was, but i don't think it is dead either. I think its smaller and more deliberate. because now there is a scene of people who have already had profound experiences. not a scene where L is the thing to do, and some have profound experiences and some don't. the psychedelic scene now is based off the concept that psychedelics are important. not just the thing to do. at least i think thats the way its headed. with festivals like burning man and the scene that is around that festival. people are getting together to say, wait a minite this substance has changed my life and now i realize how beautiful we all are lets love each other and share our experiences, and do it with art and good times. at least thats what i have taken from what that scene is all about.


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Re: Psycadelic Era [Re: lsd25icu812]
    #5824206 - 07/05/06 06:11 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

maybe its just me... but the whole free love movement and thousands of naked hippies dancing in the mud listening to rock n roll on drugs.. just doesnt seem like a step towards "evolution."

it seems people use the whole "expanding my mind" excuse just to do drugs, when its quite obvious many just ABuse drugs for recreation and escapism.


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Re: Psycadelic Era [Re: lsd25icu812]
    #5824252 - 07/05/06 06:21 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

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the psychedelic movement took a big hit when people started getting arrested. the movement is not dead though, it has evolved just as it should. you no longer have people who are just a part of it to be a part of it. it is starting to be that the people who are apart of it realize how important it is. they are coming at it with the knowledge of what happened in the 60s and how to approach it different. it sucks that it cant be the free for all that it was, but i don't think it is dead either. I think its smaller and more deliberate. because now there is a scene of people who have already had profound experiences. not a scene where L is the thing to do, and some have profound experiences and some don't. the psychedelic scene now is based off the concept that psychedelics are important. not just the thing to do. at least i think thats the way its headed. with festivals like burning man and the scene that is around that festival. people are getting together to say, wait a minite this substance has changed my life and now i realize how beautiful we all are lets love each other and share our experiences, and do it with art and good times. at least thats what i have taken from what that scene is all about.



definetly man. and thats our way of staying free. so we dont conform. its really your decision, do u want to be an all american corporate subject like everyone else? or be yourself and expand your mind.


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Re: Psycadelic Era [Re: BoominDrew]
    #5824460 - 07/05/06 07:25 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

i'm a bit fearful that nowadays any revolution will be marketed to us before it can have any impact.

White man in a suit looks out and sees unrest..... thinks hmmmmm...... time to make money off this.

And they do. They sell us our "revolution"..... get your anti-war shirts striaght from the mall !!!! I'm wondering if new things can be discovered.


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Re: Psycadelic Era [Re: leery11]
    #5824776 - 07/05/06 08:41 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

" I think its smaller and more deliberate. because now there is a scene of people who have already had profound experiences. not a scene where L is the thing to do, and some have profound experiences and some don't. the psychedelic scene now is based off the concept that psychedelics are important. not just the thing to do. "

I strongly disagree. While this may seem true in some circles, the kids shooting junk on tour or the nitrous mafia or anything like that are hardly a part of the "importance of psychedelics." The kids who do acid today are generally doing it to get fucked up. Go take a look ratdog lot or bonnaroo. The psychedelic community is shadier than it ever has been (maybe with exception of 92-95 dead lot, but that is pretty recent as well)


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Re: Psycadelic Era [Re: tocuhe]
    #5824784 - 07/05/06 08:43 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

and it ended when people started mispelling words like "psychedelic" :smile:


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Re: Psycadelic Era [Re: tocuhe]
    #5825589 - 07/06/06 12:12 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

i completely agree about tour. i said nothing about tour being apart of the new psychedelic movement. tour is a big part of where the movement came from but as you stated it has drifted far from where it used to be. i agree that it has become a place for people to get fucked up and to make money. what i said if you read my post is that the "new" psychedelic scene, that is based more around festivals and party's like burning man ( where money transactions are not even permitted) and art is the focus is where you are going to find people who know whats up. i love tour, i leave tomorrow to hit the road its what i have done since i was 16. i love the music and its where i discovered my life, but i will not say it will save the movement. tour is drawing to a close. and as far as spelling, miss spelling a word means nothing. that is not the sigh of the downfall of a movement. The sign is people who actually look at something like that as a representation of something that is beyond not only all standards, but life as you know it.... and death. who cares about any of that. I knew what he saying and everyone else did to. that is what matters. The down fall is the judgment. the judgment and the separateness that you are putting out with comments like that. i love you brother but I'm sorry spelling means nothing.


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Re: Psycadelic Era [Re: lsd25icu812]
    #5827960 - 07/06/06 04:55 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

The baby boomers are the ones that pushed the late sixties and early 70's into such a hot time. So many young people, many going to school, many reading new texts. LSD had plashed onto the scene in the previous 10 years. There was lots of factors that happened to culminate in that specific time, nothing special. Also, 18 year olds didn't have the vote 'till 1971, which made public protest the only way to get their voice across.

Why it stopped? Baby boomers needed to go get jobs by the time the 70's were fading. Also the flow of new young people had slowed since the baby boomer generation. This lead to the 80's and a time of corruptions and yuppies all around. Business was the word of the day, because such a mass portion of the population, now educated, were out in the workforce.

Why won't this era return? An era like this can only be really fueled by young people who are tired of how things are. This is something we don't have, a mass audience who is ready to rip the establishment asunder. 18 year olds have the vote now and don't use it. Not to mention birth rates have dramatically declined since Roe v wade (do not start in on that debate). So no youngsters, no new drug, no unfranchised citizens, and no declining economy. It will take a big event to lead to another era like the late 60's.


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