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    #5894912 - 07/24/06 04:50 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Salvia Questions [Re: sinzok]
    #5894934 - 07/24/06 05:00 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

1. Just pack a full bowl, or enough for a good 3 or 4 hits

2. Yeah ive been drunk and high plenty of times when taking hits of salvia. Might be different depending on the user

3. Yeah just try to get large hits. I use a bubbler to cool down the smoke also


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Re: Salvia Questions [Re: wunperf]
    #5894943 - 07/24/06 05:03 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

just pack a bowl, try to hit it all at once, hold about 30 seconds. wait a few minutes, and if you are phsyicaly unable to do anymore then youve done enough :laugh:


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Re: Salvia Questions [Re: the_END]
    #5895024 - 07/24/06 05:26 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Look for wiccan_seeker's thread about salvia dosing.
.25 grams in a small pipe is what he said the recommended dosage was for plain leaf. I'd assume go for .5 grams in a small pipe.


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Re: Salvia Questions [Re: microsporum]
    #5895037 - 07/24/06 05:31 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I've done salvia (20x)extract, and let me tell you, I took two hits (holding for 15-30sec) and it knocked me on my ass. I thought my living room was trying swallow me up. The body high you get from it is very different from anything I've tried before. Made me fell a little insecure. Way different from mushrooms. But since you only have 5x, smoke from a small pipe (filling the bowl). That should be enough for first timers. Trust me, you'll feel it...


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Re: Salvia Questions [Re: The_Chariot]
    #5895045 - 07/24/06 05:33 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

my first time was 20x...2 bowls, i think a few bowls will be good for some 6x. remember to hold it in for a while...youll be in another world soon lol


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Re: Salvia Questions [Re: majurd]
    #5895053 - 07/24/06 05:35 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

not a pipe...i would say a bong for sure...get a big hit since 6x isnt as strong...if you really want to get fucked up i say use a bong and take a few bowls.


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Re: Salvia Questions [Re: majurd]
    #5895260 - 07/24/06 06:50 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I mentioned this in another post earlier, but the most effective method I found was to use as large of a bong as possible. In my case, we used a 4 foot bong. I took one very large toke, held it in for as long as possible and then sit down.....because if you don't you will fall down. And if you decide to use a pipe, try to use a cheap one with no sentimental value, they tend to frequently get dropped once the onset commences.

Most people attempt to smoke this substance like Marijuana but this is a mistake. In order for Salvia to work, it must be ingested all within about a 1 minute window right at the beginning. I don't understand why people talk about multiple bowls. Smoke as much as possible in the smallest amount of time, thus rendering the 4 footer the weapon of choice  :wink:


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Re: Salvia Questions [Re: EndlessNameless]
    #5895376 - 07/24/06 07:30 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

sad, i could never get salvia to work for me, different types, different methods, etc.

even 40X extract and still felt nothing


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Re: Salvia Questions [Re: AA2277]
    #5895562 - 07/24/06 08:10 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Salvia is the funniest thing on the face of the earth. Every time I do it (and I've only done the leaf), it makes me laugh uncontrollably and my body high feels "funny". I can't explain it any other way. But hey, 5x will be enough to have you on the floor laughing your ass off. Just do as they said, take large ass hits (the biggest you can possibly take) and hold it for a good 20 seconds. You'll feel her.


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    #5895722 - 07/24/06 08:51 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Salvia Questions [Re: sinzok]
    #5896038 - 07/24/06 09:55 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

:lol:


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Re: Salvia Questions [Re: kotik]
    #5896076 - 07/24/06 10:05 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Well, ideally the way Salvia is consumed, it's not a drug most people are on at the same time. Each person pretty much gets their own bowl and finishes that by themselves in order to trip, I guess if you have 2 pipes / bongs going simultaneously, it could be done but the initial onset of the trip is the most spectacular part so make sure you do everything at the same time. When I messed around with it, it was before extract (not necessarily before it was invented but before I knew it existed) and we smoke the plain old shit. Some others may have better methods of consumption, it seems to me though 5 X extract should be sufficient if consumed in the same manner I speak of, technically it's at least 5 times stronger, lol :smile:


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Re: Salvia Questions [Re: EndlessNameless]
    #5896087 - 07/24/06 10:08 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Salvia scared me to death. I remember sitting there looking at my friend and BAM! His house became a desert and I started freaking out. I felt like my chair was trying to eat me.


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Re: Salvia Questions [Re: sinzok]
    #5896099 - 07/24/06 10:11 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I am very discouraged, to be honest, at the responses this individual is getting. I don't mean to offend or upset anyone here, not at all. and I'm very much a newbie to this board (not to the site) as this is my first post, haha. So I'm not trying to crown myself or seem like a know-it-all. Please accept my words as peaceful and caring, but I have to say this.

I am an avid user of Salvia Divinorum, and the responses here are greatly upsetting to me. Salvia is unlike any other drug. It does not


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Re: Salvia Questions [Re: sinzok]
    #5896109 - 07/24/06 10:13 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I am very discouraged, to be honest, at the responses this individual is getting. I don't mean to offend or upset anyone here, not at all. and I'm very much a newbie to this board (not to the site) as this is my first post, haha. So I'm not trying to crown myself or seem like a know-it-all. Please accept my words as peaceful and caring, but I have to say this.

I am an avid user of Salvia Divinorum, and the responses here are greatly upsetting to me. Salvia is unlike any other drug. It does not "fuck" anyone up. It is not a party drug. It is not meant for fun or recreation. It is a very meditative and personal experience which should be used with the utmost respect and caution. Two kids getting together and smoking Salvia to get "fucked up" is ridiculous and dangerous. This kind of behavior is why this precious and sacred plant will soon be illegal in this god-forsaken country of mine.

I do not believe any psychedelic drug should be used to get "fucked up" on or for recreation, but especially not Salvia. Mushrooms are very fun , and do lend themselves to fun/good times with friends. I'm not against that at all. I had the most meaningful experience of my life a couple of nights ago actually, while tripping mushrooms with a friend of mine. We had loads of fun, loads of it. But I learned a lot and took something very positive from my experience.

This positive energy flowing through me is all that I'm trying to convey here--that these plants, these natural drugs can teach us many things, and should be used with caution, preparation, and respect.

Aside from all that, to the person looking to get into Salvia, let me tell you this about her. She (Salvia) is very odd in that everyone has TOTALLY different 'sensitivities' to her effects. Some, like one mentioned here, never feel her. Some have a full-blown breakthrough on a hit or two of plain leaf. Others require the strong extracts to have an experience. Please don't make the mistake of smoking anything stronger than 5x for your first time. 10x may be ok, but I've seen people say they started with 20x which is highly unreasonable for a beginner. They may have been alright, but the thing to remember is that YOUR sensitivity may be very high, and 20x may blast you into the amnesiac state, which can be very dangerous unless you have a sitter to watch over you.

Again, please don't think I'm being cocky, or a jackass, I just really care for and love this plant, and I want everyone who's interested to be able to fully experience her for what she truly is--and that is NOT a recreational drug.

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Re: Salvia Questions [Re: Merkabaster]
    #5896547 - 07/25/06 12:15 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

i see what you are saying merkabaster...but you cant get mad at people for having fun with this drug, you see wonderful and freightful things, things that can't be seen with any other drug (to my knowledge). many people are curious to see what it may do to them. Even though many psychedelics are meant for spiritual reasonings, they are also meant for having a good time. i personally like getting "fucked up" on salvia because its a fun and new experience every time i do it, i have yet to do it for spiritual reasonings but have still had the coolest experiences ever...eh just my opinion.


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Re: Salvia Questions [Re: majurd]
    #5896629 - 07/25/06 12:35 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Sorry man, I didn't mean to sound angry. I'm not angry at all. Like I said, I just care for this plant, and I become concerned sometimes. While I don't agree with your use of Salvia, I respect your opinion and your decision to use it.


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Re: Salvia Questions [Re: Merkabaster]
    #5899842 - 07/25/06 09:46 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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Sorry man, I didn't mean to sound angry. I'm not angry at all. Like I said, I just care for this plant, and I become concerned sometimes. While I don't agree with your use of Salvia, I respect your opinion and your decision to use it.




No man, you didn't sound angry at all. I completely understand what you speak of, unfortunately a lot of people won't be able to comprehend this until they experience this magical plant for themselves. People get into psychedelics for a variety of reasons and most people that abuse them are just trying to get fucked up. I couldn't agree with you more, of all psychedelics I have tried this was probably the most spiritual, really the only plant that has actually confirmed the existence of God or a Divine being in my eyes.

I had, "What alcoholics refer to as a moment of clarity..."


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Re: Salvia Questions [Re: EndlessNameless]
    #5900137 - 07/25/06 10:44 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I just bought a gram of 20x and I'm gonna smoke tomorrow morning.. This will be my 5th attempt (haven't yet broke through) but I heard you get good results with keeping your eyes closed, so I'm gonna try that.. As far as having a spiritual experience, I hope I get one because the first time I smoked marijuana (I don't understand how) I had unbelievable one.. The day after it I read a shroom report where someone had one while shrooming and it was the exact same as mine... strange. I told myself that night, that I had to do shrooms no matter what.. I'll hopefully get some soon..


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Re: Salvia Questions [Re: psychout]
    #5900310 - 07/25/06 11:19 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

god damn, I wanna try Salvia now!!! :frown:


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Re: Salvia Questions [Re: Merkabaster]
    #5900315 - 07/25/06 11:20 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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Sorry man, I didn't mean to sound angry. I'm not angry at all. Like I said, I just care for this plant, and I become concerned sometimes. While I don't agree with your use of Salvia, I respect your opinion and your decision to use it.




yeah you didnt sound angry...i dont know why i said "mad" i understand your feelings and respect your thoughts. im glad there are people out their that respect drugs for their true purposes. as for me...i like getting fucked up...oh well lol.


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Re: Salvia Questions [Re: papixx]
    #5900340 - 07/25/06 11:25 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

i juss smoked some salvia about 30 min ago 20x didnt break threw but last night i did twice so that was nice i felt like my body was devided up into stripps and being traided to different states...soundz wild but we were watching sportzcenter n they was talkin bout trading playerz but i was woried if a section of my hat got traded n i would have to settel for a diff state wich would b a diff color n my hat would have a seperat color that didnt look right ........it was wild


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Re: Salvia Questions [Re: PsychdlcMes3]
    #5900851 - 07/26/06 01:28 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

You were watching sportzcenter?
I wouldn't waste any salvia in such a situation.
..atleast the goals will be different.

You need to smoke huge doses to feel some effects in such a state, a less is needed to a journey behind closed eyelids. Sure you can be blown away with huge dose anyway, but sometimes less is more.
I recommend starting from threshold levels and working your way up from there. If you are willing to experience it thisway, it will change you opinion and I'm sure that after this, you can agree that this is the way to do it.

We are all different but I think you can't reach the calm, free, open, relaxed mindset in front of a TV and noisy friends. If you can reach this mindset, S will show you much more with a lower dosage.

To achieve a deeper and more profound experience you need to close eyes, let go and accept.

I speak with just low experience myself but I am quite sure there are few to back me up.

Search wiccan_seeker salvia.
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Re: Salvia Questions [Re: astraalialma]
    #5901068 - 07/26/06 04:38 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

you know my avatar with the multi eyes?
we were watching the news and I lit my pipe.
as it kicked in the news was very hard to endure.
a new pair of eyes and ears kept emerging to handle the extra load, and then they stuck around for a while.
afterwards I grabbed some crayons and drew it for my wife to see.
tv can be ok if it is naturally part of your life.
sometimes the characters come out, ofteen they are talking about us.


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    #5901138 - 07/26/06 05:39 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

soundz crasy


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Re: Salvia Questions [Re: sinzok]
    #5901317 - 07/26/06 08:04 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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Sweet, so do you guys think that 1 gram could get me and 2 friends fuckered up pretty good?





Shouldn't you be snorting nutmeg or something?

Seriously, "getting fucked up" implies doing something bad to your brain, I hope you have more self esteem than that.

1gr Salvia 6x = 6gr plain leaf.

Yes, that really ought to suffice for three people, t5hats about a dozen doses that are *really* strong if you close your eyes in silence, and pay close attention. I'd get an easy two dozen doses from that gram.

It won't be like anything you know.

Click the link called SALVIA DIVINORUM in my signature and select the SD Users Guide. This will bring you up to speed.

As for getting fucked up: split half a level teaspoon of black pepper into two lines and quickly snort one of them. If it doesn't suffice snort the other one. I guarantee you that you've never felt so fucked up in your life :thumbup:


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Re: Salvia Questions [Re: Asante]
    #5901327 - 07/26/06 08:14 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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As for getting fucked up: split half a level teaspoon of black pepper into two lines and quickly snort one of them. If it doesn't suffice snort the other one. I guarantee you that you've never felt so fucked up in your life :thumbup:




lol, yeah great idea :wink:


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    #5912072 - 07/29/06 01:30 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Salvia Questions [Re: sinzok]
    #5912133 - 07/29/06 01:52 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I didn't read all the messages but i would recommend loading a descent size bowl and hitting it. Hold it for at least 20 seconds and when you exhale you should feel it right away, but since people have different tolerances to salvia imi not going to say you will. Enjoy but realize that salvia is no drug to be screwing around with because there have been cases of people losing their minds off of it. Basically know your limit like with anything else.


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Re: Salvia Questions [Re: sinzok]
    #5912203 - 07/29/06 02:18 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Breaking through can only be really defined by experiencing it, from what I hear. Don't hold expectations, and you will know it when you get there.


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