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A Simple But Profound Buddhist Personality Theory
    #5892394 - 07/23/06 08:58 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)



I recommend this book for anyone who is interested in personality typing for self-understanding and for understanding others and the way we relate with others. It ties in The Five Wisdom Energies with the Five Buddha Families that are represented by the five colors on Tibetan Buddhist prayer flags Blue, White, Green, Red and Yellow or Vajra, Buddha, Karma, Padma and Ratna, Aether, Air, Fire, Water and Earth respectively. Each predominating Wisdom Energy with a secondary or "Exit" energy characterizes each personality. The model has something in common with the Enneagram personality theory (once ascribed to Sufi origin) with a main type and a "wing" secondary (corresponding to the "exit").

-  The vajra family reflects a blue energy like a crystal-clear mirror. Vajra energy reflects what it sees without bias; this is its wisdom quality. It also has a self-righteousness that can harden into cold or hot anger; that is its confused quality.

-  The ratna family exudes a rich and earthy golden yellow energy that encompasses everything. The wisdom quality of ratna energy is richness, equanimity, and satisfaction. But it can also turn into greedy territoriality and puffed-up pride, which is its neurotic quality.

-  The padma family glows with the vitality of red energy. Padma energy's passion is, at its best, compassionate wisdom. At its neurotic worst, it manifests as grasping. In its wisdom it is finely tuned in to what is happening, discriminating experience without bias. However, when it is neurotic, it can cling obsessively to what gives pleasure.

-  The karma family emits green energy, swift and energetic like the wind. Karma energy is all-accomplishing action for the benefit of others; this is its wisdom quality. It can also become power hungry, manipulative, competative, and envious; that is its confused quality.

-  The buddha family radiates a white energy, spacious and peaceful. Buddha energy is an all-pervasive, peaceful space; this is its wisdom quality. It can also be solidly immobile with the density of ignoring or denying; that is its confused quality.

The above are the basic descriptions. The author dedicates a chapter to each, then gives examples of how different personalities both get along and clash. She explains how we have secondary 'exit' personalities of another energy which can both embellish or mask our primary energy-type. Being interested in personality tests like The Enneagram or the MBTI, this was refreshingly simple and profound. We've had this book for a couple of years at least, but a new surge in interest in Wisdom as manifest through Vajrayana Buddhism (I'm a Vajra with a Padma exit) prompted me to study this book. My Karma energy prompted me to share it with anyone on the S&P  :smile:



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Re: A Simple But Profound Buddhist Personality Theory [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #5895423 - 07/24/06 07:41 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I realize that it's 'gauche' to respond to my own post, but I went to the Home Depot today and bought concrete and electrical conduit pipe. I have two removable flagpoles that plug into the ground with a couple of vertical prayer flags on them.

When I was about 5 years old, my best friend Paul and I used to play at magick. His mom had an unusual white handled kitchen item that we would take and stick into the ground in his wooded yard on a hill. We placed towels on either side of the implement and we lay on the towels and imagined that its white handle with print (we couldn't read yet) gave off magic powers that protected us (from what?!) At night, after the magickal "crack between the worlds" of twilight, I would RUN home in the dark because, Paul taught me, ghosts and goblins would come out of the ground (what's a goblin?)

Now, I plant Tibetan Buddhist prayer flags for the celebration of the mystical (and probably for unconscious residuum from age five). Some things never change, and I'm glad! The vertical flags bound the North, this Buddha sits in the West, horizontal prayer flags bound the East, the sliding glass door to our bedroom looks out on the grass in the center. Still playing.  :wink:



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Re: A Simple But Profound Buddhist Personality Theory [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #5897051 - 07/25/06 03:28 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

This book looks like yet another westerners attempt to mix buddhist philosophy and pop psycology with other made up ideas, in order to make money. :rolleyes:

This is nothing new. Westerners have done this kind of thing alot since buddhism became popular in the west.


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Re: A Simple But Profound Buddhist Personality Theory [Re: Sinbad]
    #5897093 - 07/25/06 03:57 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

> This book looks like yet another

Wow! By your use of "looks" I assume that you have not yet read the book? It is certainly fair to gripe about books one has read, but to judge a book one has not read is...


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Re: A Simple But Profound Buddhist Personality Theory [Re: Seuss]
    #5897111 - 07/25/06 04:15 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Actually, he has a valid point, because Buddhists don't have personalities, which makes this book look rather fradulent. :wink:

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Re: A Simple But Profound Buddhist Personality Theory [Re: fireworks_god]
    #5897130 - 07/25/06 04:36 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Actually, he has a valid point, because Buddhists don't have personalities, which makes this book look rather fradulent.

I guess they just do not identify with their personalities. One's personality comes from the people one associates with. Get new friends, get a new personality. It's like clothes.


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Re: A Simple But Profound Buddhist Personality Theory [Re: Sinbad]
    #5897137 - 07/25/06 04:45 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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Sinbad said:
This book looks like yet another westerners attempt to mix buddhist philosophy and pop psycology with other made up ideas, in order to make money. :rolleyes:

This is nothing new. Westerners have done this kind of thing alot since buddhism became popular in the west.




You clearly don't know the first thing about Buddhism. :tongue:



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Re: A Simple But Profound Buddhist Personality Theory [Re: fireworks_god]
    #5897138 - 07/25/06 04:46 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Buddhism is all about categorizing, which this book follows suit, also buddhism is an invention so all its material will also be invented

Buddhism is a mystical version of social science, meaning they don't chiefly derive all their correlations on scientific methods, but commonly make broad generalizations based on philosophical dogma,


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Re: A Simple But Profound Buddhist Personality Theory [Re: Nomad]
    #5897141 - 07/25/06 04:53 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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I guess they just do not identify with their personalities. One's personality comes from the people one associates with. Get new friends, get a new personality. It's like clothes.




I was just joking. :grin:

Making fun of Sinbad. :wink:

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Re: A Simple But Profound Buddhist Personality Theory [Re: Sinbad]
    #5897733 - 07/25/06 10:49 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

There is nothing wrong with adopting ancient Buddhist psychology into one's own 'Western' development as you would no doubt agree, nor is there anything wrong with adapting Eastern styles to Western psyches. I used the work of Kargutpa Lama Govinda's Foundations of Tibetan Mysticism to unify several, otherwise seemingly antagonistic, theories of motivation. I discovered phenomenological parallels between chakra state descriptions both before and after having Enlightenment experiences that transform people. I had Lama Govinda's personal blessing in this.

This author operates a center and gives lectures on her quite useful model. Making money is necessary and I'm sure she could do so in other ways. She is a psychotherapist as I am, and my time is limited hence valuable. Yet I undercharge for my private services because it is an avocation not my full time vocation. Perhaps you have issues with money. If I can get rid of a phobia or a lifetime stutter, or even radically diminish the symptoms over two hours, is $200 too much to ask? I think not. If I utilize certain psychological models best known from a Buddhist context, am I not spreading the Dharma?

"Pop psychology" is a cliche. Either a model reflects the working nature of the psyche or it does not. If it works, you've got utility. If you are ignorant of psychology, and a client has confidence in you, I could teach you how to hypnotize someone and possibly cure their symptoms. Then what are you going to call the action? Even in ignorance, one can learn Skillful Means and then one's own ignorance begins to fade.


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Re: A Simple But Profound Buddhist Personality Theory [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #5899003 - 07/25/06 05:57 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Magic Dance by Thinley Norbu is also on this subject, and though a thin book, available at the library, I found it very deep and useful.


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Re: A Simple But Profound Buddhist Personality Theory [Re: eve69]
    #5899797 - 07/25/06 09:34 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks.


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