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InvisibleFreewired
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Are they worth it?
    #588870 - 03/25/02 09:08 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

OK, obviously new around here. I've been snooping around looking of rinfo/opinions about mycobags, but I don't feel like I've found any straight answers. Do straight answers exist? What's the consensus on the mycobag?


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Re: Are they worth it? [Re: Freewired]
    #588969 - 03/25/02 12:18 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

do a search on them. the people who have used them (me not being one of them) have seemed to have some good results, there was recently a post in this section about 147grams wet or something. it was up for like two weeks, its a good way to start, if you really dont care about the way they look, cause they were some ugly lookin things(lol). if you dont have any supplies yet, they are a good start, cause all you need is the bag and a syringe. all i gotta say tho, whatever way you go, read read read, and then read more. you will never kno enough about mushies, until you get to like anno's level or so.


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Re: Are they worth it? [Re: Freewired]
    #588987 - 03/25/02 12:55 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

i have seen more like 300 gram reports i think-then again i read alot on here-and smoke alot of weed :smile:
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Re: Are they worth it? [Re: Freewired]
    #589002 - 03/25/02 01:25 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

I bought a mycobag through sporeworks, and injected it with the puerto rican strian. and nothing happend. No I don't think they are worth it. But on a good note, we told sporeworks and they promptly sent us a new one. It may have bben that puerto rican may not have been right for there subsrate, I guess I will never know. But we are going to try a more grain loving strain next, perhaps equador. Good luck


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Re: Are they worth it? [Re: Freewired]
    #589009 - 03/25/02 01:37 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

To start out in your first attempt, they are a good buy......They are essentially an all inclusive Kit, but atleast a somewhat decent one. You sure won't find any fantastical yeilds from them, but they are easy to grow, and easy to conceal.....so what do you expect....

When you get more experienced in the field of mushroom cultivation, these bags are just impractical at best.


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Re: Are they worth it? [Re: jonnyshaggs420]
    #589012 - 03/25/02 01:41 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

Johnny I beg to differ with you. I have found that on average that the myco bags will yield more than 3 cakes.


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Re: Are they worth it? [Re: SouthernGent]
    #589036 - 03/25/02 02:08 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

Thanks yall. I'm gonna try the real deal; figure if I'm growing, then what the hell? Why half-ass it?


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Re: Are they worth it? [Re: Freewired]
    #589081 - 03/25/02 03:34 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

Half ass it? That's the thing about bags. They don't give you a chance to half ass your jars. I've done both. and four different sizes of jars. I just did the mycobags as sort of an insurance policy to have shrooms for sure by my birtyday. They were done in 26 days and averaged a dry 15 grams per bag on the first flush. I still love my jars and keep them hard at work. But I am seriously considering ordering more bags. Here's a fourth flush from a bag. It weighed 38 grams wet.



Pretty ugly huh?
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Re: Are they worth it? [Re: WakingUpLate]
    #589088 - 03/25/02 03:41 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

That is truly a wonderful looking shroom.


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Re: Are they worth it? [Re: WakingUpLate]
    #589093 - 03/25/02 03:45 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

Wow. Nicely done. I'm assuming that contam risks are way lower with the bags. Now I'm thinking I should try it both ways.
Life lesson: You should always try it both ways.



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Re: Are they worth it? [Re: Freewired]
    #589102 - 03/25/02 03:54 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

Tell ya what I'll do man. If you decide you want to try a
bag or a few, I'll send you a free syringe of Ecuador.
That's what they seem to like the best. By the way, I am
in no way affiliated with sporeworks(other than we went
to the same college). Just trying to help.:peace:
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Re: Are they worth it? [Re: WakingUpLate]
    #589119 - 03/25/02 04:13 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

Get outta town. People around here are deep-down good. I'm thinking the bags would be a good way to start. Fill me in.
Do you usually get 3-4 flushes/ bag?


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Re: Are they worth it? [Re: Freewired]
    #589150 - 03/25/02 04:47 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

That's what the shroomery's all about man.
Yeah I got 2 heavy flushes and the third and
fourth were fewer shrooms but they got real
big. One bag out of four got contaminated after
the third flush(I must have had dirty hands). I
still haven't completely given up on seeing a
fifth. Every time the shrooms are removed,
seven sprays with a mister are added (down
side of the bag, not at the mycelia) and it's
closed again with paperclips. Hope that
helps! PM me with your address if you
want the spores. :peace:

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Re: Are they worth it? [Re: WakingUpLate]
    #589166 - 03/25/02 04:58 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

So I read about casing the substrate and mycelium from bags with worm poop. Anyone have any experience with this?


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Re: Are they worth it? [Re: WakingUpLate]
    #589220 - 03/25/02 05:44 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

Waking thats what I m talkin about. I ve been getting similar results. You may want to try the TC also. TC seems to take a bit longer but the flushes are awesome. Shrooms everywhere. I have found to get the big flushes pick them early soon as the veil starts to break. I ve got several working but I had a bag of TC that i ve gotten over a oz dry from. TC isnt the buzz that the PR;s are thank god LOL.. I just finished some PR also and tried 4 g of them and wowwoww.. it wasnt the usual 3 hour buzz the TC had me used to lol... I had a few bags that didnt take and sporeworks replaced them immediately. Good company and hell of a product.


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Re: Are they worth it? [Re: SouthernGent]
    #589362 - 03/25/02 07:31 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

"Johnny I beg to differ with you. I have found that on average that the myco bags will yield more than 3 cakes. "

SG,

Not to flame you bro.....but I'll put my 3 cakes to the test over a bag.
1st flush, 2nd and 3rd flush....even.

The bags are a wonderful thing.....i think these bags help newbies grow confindence....and then they move on to casings.


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Who the hell you callin crazy?
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PM the names with on there names, that means they have mushrooms for sale.



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Post deleted by Anno [Re: Roadkill]
    #589369 - 03/25/02 07:40 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)



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Re: Are they worth it? [Re: Freewired]
    #589394 - 03/25/02 08:07 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

As a method in which to grow mushrooms, these bags have been around for years. They are often used by cultivators of edible mushrooms.



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Re: Are they worth it? [Re: Anonymous]
    #589398 - 03/25/02 08:16 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

I'll have to figgure it out.

What are the dry yeilds of the bag ?


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Laterz, Road

Who the hell you callin crazy?
You wouldn't know what crazy was if Charles Manson was eating froot loops on your front porch!


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Re: Are they worth it? [Re: Freewired]
    #589426 - 03/25/02 09:08 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

ecuadors are a great beginner strain-mine even pinned at almost 80 degrees F
and in under a week(casing) and 1 1/2 week(cake)

yes WakingUpLate is a good guy :smile: contrary to what some people have said(lets not get into that again)
he has helped me alot :smile:
glad to have him as my friend :smile:
welcome to the shroomery-
there are some very cool,  laid back people here-
some people take that to their advantage and us epeople and make bad trades and hide behind their computers :smile:
im glad we have a community and had a raffle to keep this great community going :smile:
it has helped me find my true love(mycology)
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Re: Are they worth it? [Re: Roadkill]
    #589709 - 03/26/02 04:58 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

I was just using the average of what everyone said they got from cakes here in a recent thread. I read the average to be about 4 dry grams per cake and I believe Ganja said he got 6... thats how I came up with the average of 4 or 5. Looking at your GT pics Road you look like you do better than average. Much better LOL


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Re: Are they worth it? [Re: SouthernGent]
    #589717 - 03/26/02 05:06 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

yeah i got about 6-and that was really dunking in milk and really pushing it fightinhg contams-that green ick cakes get after dunks(LOL)
but hey-screw cakes-casings is the way to go if you want good yeilds-
i should have started doing that to begin with-
i think it was easier than cakes,or just as easy-
yea- Roadkills GT pics are very nice-
wish i could get flushes like that from cakes-
is that from his hydropod or just from cakes?


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Re: Are they worth it? [Re: GaNjAShRooM]
    #590045 - 03/26/02 01:46 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

Ganjashroom, Thanks for the kind words. I've made some really good friends here at the shroomery and I value every one of you.
One of Roadkill's tricks is he grinds his own rice. The PF Tek says that can really make a difference. It just so happens that I ground my very first rice last night. And honestly, I'm chasing Roadkill's results. That fucker can grow some mushrooms! :cool: I had a brainstorm about grinding BRF. I'll be posting it in a few minutes.
Freewired, Your spores are on their way. I do ask one favor, if you don't mind. If your project goes well for you. Read up and learn to make prints(on foil). Then when you get a chance, send a few prints to the Free Spore Ring. You don't have to. But if you see fit, it's the ultimate way to give back to the community. And doing so costs next to nothing. Good luck with your project and welcome to the coolest hobby I know of! .:peace:

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Re: Are they worth it? [Re: WakingUpLate]
    #590218 - 03/26/02 04:57 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

You guys are the coolest. If I make it work, my prints will follow right along. I didn't spend all that lab time in college for nuthin. That's what community is about, isn't it?


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Re: Are they worth it? [Re: WakingUpLate]
    #590304 - 03/26/02 06:40 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)



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Re: Are they worth it? [Re: SouthernGent]
    #590374 - 03/26/02 08:00 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

ok.....i got my figgures...lolz

76 dry grams from 11 BRF cakes.
This is not including my caps that i have drying now.....cause i made prints.... about 35 prints.
So i will dry the caps out and add them later.
Even so.....that would come out to 6.333333 grams dry per cake...as of now.
And i didn't let them all get to the printing stage....So alot didn't have open caps....And i could have let them get bigger.
These were Acadain Coast cakes....btw
My Cambodians fruited more.....alot more than the Acadian Coast.

I'll update you with grand total later after the caps dry.


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Re: Are they worth it? [Re: geokills]
    #590381 - 03/26/02 08:09 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

Nah man, I haven't tried anythng but Ecuadors in the
bags. I had six strains going when I tried the bags
but figured the guys at sporeworks had already figured
out which strain made the best example. Would you
like to have the print from the pic above? It's a real
beauty. You might have just asked the right question
at the right time. :cool:
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Re: Are they worth it? [Re: Roadkill]
    #590397 - 03/26/02 08:33 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

dude you are the king of cakes... lol... thats a great yield and no a bag wont get that.. you are going to average about 1/2 oz dry from each bag on average... some alot more and some alot less... 4 bags at 50 bucks for 2 oz dry shrooms... for a guy like you may not a good deal but to a total rookie like me and a shit load of others here its a deal... beats the hell out of green jars LOL... I ve learned alot though while waiting on bags to fruit... like how to case and how to spawn rye then case... BUT sporeworks makes one hell of a product for those who want some success.


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Re: Are they worth it? [Re: WakingUpLate]
    #590404 - 03/26/02 08:39 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

> Would you like to have the print from the pic above?



would i ever!  that shroom is a beautiful specimen :laugh:  :cool:
 


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Re: Are they worth it? [Re: SouthernGent]
    #590417 - 03/26/02 08:58 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

SG...I'm not knocking the bags.....I think they are a great product.
Like i have said....They are great for the beginner and they are pretty much fail safe.....which is a big plus.

lmfaooooo @ Cake King

them 2 oz sure went fast.....btw
lmfaooooo
goneeeeeeeee

My casings are doing good too. :wink:
 


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Who the hell you callin crazy?
You wouldn't know what crazy was if Charles Manson was eating froot loops on your front porch!


Brainiac said:
PM the names with on there names, that means they have mushrooms for sale.



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Re: Are they worth it? [Re: SouthernGent]
    #590574 - 03/26/02 11:25 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

three cakes cased? pf teked? spawned with appropriate dung?or straw?

Cakes don't produce a whole lot on there own. I'm not saying the bags produce very little (I really don't know) but they don't produce a fantastical yeild when comparing them to bulk methods.


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Re: Are they worth it? [Re: jonnyshaggs420]
    #590845 - 03/27/02 08:16 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

hey johnny,

which Bulk methods you referring to?


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Re: Are they worth it? [Re: Freewired]
    #595005 - 03/31/02 09:58 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

ive read about using oven bags in a similar manner to these. could i sterilize these bags in the oven?


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