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Offlinefelix4life
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    #5887310 - 07/22/06 11:51 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Just some pointers:
"When you become stabilized in your Self, the continuous commentary of the mind will stop. Your true state is ever-existent." --Nisargadatta Maharaj

"There is one kind of giving up that has, as its basis, the giving up of one thing in order to get something later. But there is a more genuine giving up where something is given up as being harmful or useless, by itself, not necessarily in exchange for something more acceptable. It is a question of giving up a concept or an illusion out of a conviction about its illusoriness, without any other motive." --Ramesh Balsekar

When you think there is something to meditate on, you only meditate on what you know already, so you turn in a vicious circle. In reality, meditation is from moment to moment; it is your background, it is the light behind all perceptions. It gives life to all perceptions; it gives reality to all that is perceived. You can never understand what meditation is or what God is, what love is or what peace or freedom is; it is beyond the mind. --Jean Klein

"Understanding" is not an intellectual, an emotional, or a passing thing. It is something that comes with action, and therefore it is a complete understanding and not a partial understanding. In understanding oneself, one's consciousness and its content--for there is no consciousness without content--one sees there are two principal factors: pleasure and fear. They cannot be separated. Where there is the pursuit of, the insistence on, and the demand for pleasure, there must be in its wake fear. In understanding fear, one must not disregard the fact of pleasure. --J. Krishnamurti

Our real nature is Liberation, but we imagine that we are bound and make strenuous efforts to become free, although all the while we are free. This is understood only when we reach that state. Then we shall be surprised to find that we were frantically striving to attain something that we always were and are." --Ramana Maharshi

Know then that true knowledge does not create a new Being for you; it only removes your "ignorant ignorance." Bliss is not added to your nature; it is merely revealed as your true and natural state, eternal and imperishable. The only way to be rid of your grief is to know and be the Self. How can this be unattainable? --Ramana Maharshi

You are--you always have been--where you want to be led. Actually, there is no "where" that can be led to. Awareness of this obvious position is the answer--just the apperception; nothing to be done. And the tragic irony is that such awareness and apperception cannot be an act of volition. Does your waking state come about by itself, or do you awaken yourself as an act of volition? Indeed, the least effort on "your" part will prevent what otherwise might have happened naturally and spontaneously. And the joke within the joke is that your deliberately not doing anything will also prevent it happening! It is simple, really; "doing."

"What I find difficult-and unacceptable, really-is the wishy-washy reliance on words, on concepts, of so much alleged spirituality. True spirituality is real, down to earth, concrete-it's coming home from appearance to reality." --Douglas E. Harding

The union that one discovers in contemplative prayer will not be reserved to that time. Moments of silence will overtake you in the course of daily life. Reality will tend to become more transparent. Its divine Source will shine through it. -- Thomas Keating

"There's Ramana's insistence that it's easier to see What and Who we really are than to see a gooseberry in the palm of our hand. All of which means that there are no preconditions for this essential in-seeing. To oneself one's true nature is forever on display, and how one can pretend otherwise is one of the world's great mysteries. It's available now, just as one is, and does not require the would-be seer to be holy, or virtuous, or learned, or clever, or special in any way. Rather the reverse. What a superb--and woefully neglected--advantage this is!" --Douglas Harding

"You are that which is prior to any kind of peace or conflict, prior to every sensation, perception, or concept. All this appears and disappears within you. Longing and seeking are also part of these appearances. You don't need the fulfillment of any kind of seeking in order to be what you already are. For this, nothing has to come and nothing has to go. You yourself are the fulfillment. --Karl Renz

"As part of the drama of manifestation we believe that we're just a little individual searching for our original, timeless nature. While we enjoy the game of seeking, strangely enough, what we're looking for is the closest thing to us, even closer than our breath." --Tony Parsons

At the moment of Enlightenment everything falls away--everything. Suddenly the ground beneath you is gone, and you are alone. You are alone because you have realized that there is no other; there is only THAT, and YOU ARE THAT. --Adyashanti

Those who don't feel this life pulling them like a river, those who don't drink dawn like a cup of springwater or take in the sunset like supper, those who don't want to change, let them sleep. --Rumi

Be conscious of yourself, watch your mind, give it your full attention. Don't look for quick results; there may be none within your noticing. Unknown to you, your psyche will undergo a change, there will be more clarity in your thinking, charity in your feeling, purity in your behavior. You need not aim at these--you will witness the change all the same. For what you are now is the result of inattention and what you become will be the fruit of attention. --Nisargadatta Maharaj

"The Center of my being is changeless, and where there is no change, there is not time. This, then, is forever my Reality, not something that comes and goes." --Douglas Harding

What surfaces during meditation are residues of the past. These residues are energy localized through association of ideas--energy mobilized into fear and insecurity. Remain a witness to all this. In being the choiceless observer, attention is motiveless, and all conditioning subsides. --Jean Klein

It is the nature of the life force to express itself through thoughts and words, so they will keep on coming. If you have to make an effort in the beginning not to get involved, make that effort until it becomes effortless. . . . Thoughts will come in consciousness; witnessing also takes place in consciousness. You must have the conviction that you are consciousness. --Nisargadatta Maharaj

Identification with the body is so total that it gives one a sense of separate identity. Now, the separate identity is merely a concept, a concept based on the individual body appearing solid. --Ramesh Balsekar

"The past and the future are simply part of the drama that keeps us locked into the illusion of being separate entities. Once the gate has opened into another possibility, then the real adventure begins . . . Realization does not emerge through our attempts to change our lives; it comes as a direct rediscovery of 'who' it is that lives." --Tony Parsons


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OfflineFractalated
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Re: Self [Re: felix4life]
    #5887320 - 07/22/06 11:57 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

So realize this 'self' and become liberated eh?

Well what is the Self? How do you define/describe it? If we are already liberated, then what's the point of trying to realize this?


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"Now that the principalities and the powers stockpile weapons of mass destruction, contaminate the earth with their feverish industry, release floods of images to trigger insatiable desires, treat animals and humans as commodities and functions of a market, the devil must be grinning from ear to ear."


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Re: Self [Re: Fractalated]
    #5887374 - 07/22/06 12:21 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Fractalated said:
Well what is the Self? How do you define/describe it? If we are already liberated, then what's the point of trying to realize this?




The Self exists as the culmination of all experience, and is being expressed in this present moment.

The point of realizing this is to bring awareness within oneself and one's experience. Rather, that is realizing it. The point in doing so is to experience life to a greater degree, and to directly perceive and understand reality.

Why do that? Because then one is more capable of achieving one's goals, and to exist with a great sense of being all the while.... a state of continual fufillment. :smirk:

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If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you

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OfflineFractalated
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Re: Self [Re: fireworks_god]
    #5887485 - 07/22/06 12:57 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

The Self exists as the culmination of all experience, and is being expressed in this present moment.

So it's just synonymous with consciousness, or am I misunderstanding?


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"Now that the principalities and the powers stockpile weapons of mass destruction, contaminate the earth with their feverish industry, release floods of images to trigger insatiable desires, treat animals and humans as commodities and functions of a market, the devil must be grinning from ear to ear."


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Re: Self [Re: Fractalated]
    #5887571 - 07/22/06 01:25 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

here are some very motivational and inspirational quotes i try to think about and live by everyday on my journey of life



"on lifes journey, faith is nourishment, virtous deeds are a shelter,

wisdom is the light by day, right mindfulness is the protection by night,

if a man lives a pure life nothing can destroy him,

if he has conquered greed nothing can limit his freedom"

-buddha

"the only limitations man has are the limitations he puts upon himself"

"Our greatest glory consists in not never falling, but in rising every time we fall"
-confucious

"The meaning of things lies not in the things themselves, but our attitudes towards them"


"nothing average ever stood as a monument to progress. When progress is looking for a partner it doesn't turn tot hose who believe they are only average. It turns instead to those who are forever searching and striving to be the best they possibly can. Those who seek the average level cannot hope to achieve a high level of success. There only hope is to avoid being a failure."

"Everyone who has ever done a kind deed for us, or spoken a word of encouragement to us, has entered into the make-up of our charater and our thoughts, as well as our success"

"He who is not couragous enough to take risks will accomplish nothing in life"


"whether you be man or woman you will never do anything in this world without courage. It is the greatest quality of mind next to honor"

"Dont let the opinions of the average man sway you. Dream, and he thinks your crazy. Succeed, and he thinks your lucky. Aquire wealth, and he thinks your greedy. Pay no attention. He does not understand"

"success is not final, failure is not fatal. It is the courage to continue that counts"

"every sixty seconds you spend upset is a minute of happiness you'll never get back"


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"Life lived in the absence of the psychedelic experience that primordial shamanism is based on is life trivialized, life denied, life enslaved to the ego."

"You teach the world how to treat you, by showing the world how you treat yourself."

A well developed sense of humor is far superior to any religion"

"Everything you could want and could be, you already have and are."

:peace: & :heart:


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