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Mushroom ID
    #5886455 - 07/22/06 01:56 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Location: Blair County, Pennsylvania (central part of the state)
Trees: Hemlock, Oaks, Maple, Beech

I apologize for not having a spore print, but at the time of the photograph, I didn't realize how crucial a part it was for identifying mushrooms.



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Re: Mushroom ID [Re: Timberdoodler]
    #5886631 - 07/22/06 03:39 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Please see:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/5731447/an/0/page/0

Can you give us any further information about this mushroom?


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Re: Mushroom ID [Re: CureCat]
    #5887125 - 07/22/06 10:22 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Each time I post, half of it keep dissapearing. I haven't found anything in the FAQ regarding the number of characters allowed in a post. In any case:

Cap: Gray, wrinkled like "elephant skin", edges curled under.
Stem: milky yellow, smooth

If I see the mushroom again, I will get better details.


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Re: Mushroom ID [Re: Timberdoodler]
    #5887267 - 07/22/06 11:30 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

If your wondering if it active, thats a no. Look for blue feet and pan subbs.

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Re: Mushroom ID [Re: OSUbucksfan]
    #5887339 - 07/22/06 12:06 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

No, I think he is actually interested in the field, rather than just the actives.

Eris and I are talking, and he suggested Collybia, which from the photos I've viewed, seems solid.  Apparently the genus has gone through a lot of dishevelment and has been updated, split up, and renamed and sub-categorized extensively in recent years.  We'll need someone well versed in the genus to be able to pin point a species.  Anyhow, Eris found this mushroom in a near by area.  He is "out of it" so i'll post it.  :tongue: The resemblance is uncanny.




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Re: Mushroom ID [Re: CureCat]
    #5887354 - 07/22/06 12:11 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah, as far as I can tell, it keys out to Collybia, which since my keys are old and don't have up to date taxonomy could mean that it could be in more than one genus that branched off of collybia at some point or another.

:grin:

Either way, I wouldn't really bother with any edibles in this group.. there aren't any actives either.

We are also assuming that the spore print color is white.


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Re: Mushroom ID [Re: eris]
    #5887456 - 07/22/06 12:44 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I'd say no to collybia.

Try pluteus.... or entoloma maybe...


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Re: Mushroom ID [Re: viscid]
    #5887595 - 07/22/06 01:35 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

If that were the case, it would have to have pink or salmon spores.. No spore print color was posted, so all we can really do is assume(I found similar mushroom that prints white, the pics in CureCats post and I'm very close to the same area). There are no signs of any pink tones in the pics from what I see anyway. I don't think it's a Entoloma.

Pluteus species usually grow directly from wood and they have free gills. If you look very closely at the gill attachment, it doesn't really look like that of Pluteus.

Not trying to suggest that it is directly in the collybia genus, but could be something that was in it at one time or another.


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Re: Mushroom ID [Re: Timberdoodler]
    #5888568 - 07/22/06 06:57 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I'm thinking perhaps something close to Melanoleuca cognata.

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Re: Mushroom ID [Re: ToxicMan]
    #5888923 - 07/22/06 08:53 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

That sounds like a good possibility - another white spore/notched gill genus.
Arora even refers to them as "overgrown Collybias" in his book.

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Re: Mushroom ID [Re: eris]
    #5888977 - 07/22/06 09:12 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Poor Timberdoodler... just looking for a simple ID on a simple little mushroom and got a taxonomy review over the genus Collybia instead.  :confused:  :crazy:


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Re: Mushroom ID [Re: Lysergic_Milkman]
    #5889255 - 07/22/06 10:58 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks to everyone who has helped thus far. If I can find this mushroom again soon, then I will do a spore print to narrow it down.


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Re: Mushroom ID [Re: Timberdoodler]
    #5889809 - 07/23/06 07:09 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

It's a small picture, so it's difficult to tell, but the gills look free to me. I also see a hint of pink, leading me to suspect Pluteus.

Without the proper ID criteria we can only guess.


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Re: Mushroom ID [Re: shroomydan]
    #5890228 - 07/23/06 11:20 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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It's a small picture




Yeah, I saved a version and zoomed in to get a better look at the gills. It helps somewhat.



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Re: Mushroom ID [Re: shroomydan]
    #5890330 - 07/23/06 12:08 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

ShroomyDan, I do not see how the gills of this specimen look free... I mean, it does sort of impressionate free gills, but to me they are clearly enough attached. Am I missing something?


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Re: Mushroom ID [Re: CureCat]
    #5890512 - 07/23/06 01:10 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

It did look almost free a little bit after only looking at the small image briefly.. had to study it for a couple mins and zoom in to be able to see it better.

They do really look attached to me after looking very closely.

Pluteus usually has quite a gap between the stem and gills.

Going on Timberdoodlers location, it appears that I'm very close to him. I picked a very similar looking mushroom this summer also. Wish that I had the chance to study it more closely. I was too busy cooking up my oyster finds from that day and forgot about the mushroom totally. By the time I went back to it, it was totally dry. It did leave a white print on the paper that it was sitting on.

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Re: Mushroom ID [Re: CureCat]
    #5892600 - 07/23/06 10:01 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)



The mushroom is beginning to dry and really reminds me of this Pluteus I found last month. And either I am hallucinating (a distinct possibility) or there is a slight pink tinge to the gills. If they were completely white, then they would probably look attached to me. If they are attached, then they are just barely so; there is a discernible ring around the stem where it attaches to the cap.

The mushroom may well be a Collybia or one of its cousins, but I think Pluteus is certainly a possibility. Without a spore print or a clear picture I just can't tell.


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