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Psylocybe Fanaticus Psilocybin Extraction Tek!!
    #588626 - 03/25/02 02:28 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)



After a small amount of reasearch due to a debate about the feasabilty of psyilocybin extraction in another thread I thought that many members would find this VERY interesting. It's been said that psilocybin extraction is very expensive and dificult to do.

I have often thought some "weak" "acid" is NOT lsd 25, but really good old fashion Psyilocybin which has been extracted. Many have expressed there views that this is unheard of. I'm not sure if this tek could really be used for some type of "blotter acid" but if the extraction was put in another type of "carrier" one *might* have something that SOME would consider to be a weak acid.

Thanks to a tip from Juggles here is what I found:
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( From PSYLOCYBE FANATICUS 's Web Site )


PF TEK mushroom liqueur tecknique
by Psylocybe Fanaticus
This technique describes how to extract psilocybin from magic mushrooms with pure 200 proof ethyl alcohol and make a magic mushroom liqueur of concentrated psilocybin to effect a powerful psychedelic dose as potent as desired. The entire process involves only the shrooms and alcohol. The alcohol is untainted with chemicals and poisons because it can be easily acquired from a liquor store (United States) either over the counter (in some states) or with a special permit (most states - see end of article section - "procuring 200 proof ethyl alcohol from a liquor store").


ALCOHOL EXTRACTION
1. Acquire quality psilocybe cubensis shrooms (harvested before or just as the veils open and cool dried with desiccant). The more shrooms used in the beginning, the more potent the concentration can be when finished. Use at least several grams of dried shroom material to make the process worthwhile and effective. The shrooms need to be thoroughly dry (rock hard) to allow pulverization. To pulverize the shrooms, put them into a small strong zip lock plastic bag (freezer bag), cover the bag with a magazine (for protection of the bag) and pound it with the rubber heel of a large shoe. After pulverization, pour the shroom material into a bottle that has a tight fitting leak proof cap. Add enough alcohol to cover the shroom material to make a loose slurry. Shake the bottle well and let it sit for 24 hours. Shake it now and then to activate the extraction.

2. After 24 hours of soaking, filter off the alcohol. Inexpensive dust-pollen masks make excellent filters for the slurry. These are available at hardware, drug and paint stores. They are usually white or tan colored, fit over the nose and mouth and are held on to the face by a rubber band attached to the filter. Fashion the filter over the mouth of a drinking glass. Shake up the bottle of slurry, and pour some slurry into the filter. Squeeze the filter and slurry to extract the alcohol. There are many details to deal with, but doing it once reveals them all. Experience is the best teacher. Store the extracted alcohol in a fresh bottle.

3. Retrieve the shroom material from the filters and resoak the extracted shroom material with fresh alcohol and repeat steps 1 and 2 (secondary filtration and reclamation).


EVAPORATION AND CONCENTRATION
Combine the alcohol extracts into a glass. Place a small electric fan (small desk clip on fans are perfect) near the glass and point the air flow directly down into the glass until the surface of the alcohol ripples. This will speed the evaporation and concentration. The process will take several hours. The more alcohol extract - the longer the evaporation time. As the alcohol evaporates and the level recedes down into the glass, wash the residue that adheres to the inside of the glass back into the solution. Any fumes that are generated will be harmless because the alcohol is a non poisonous drinkable spirit. Keep flames away from the solution - pure alcohol is very flammable.

Evaporate the extract down to the concentration desired. 1 to 3 or more grams of dried shroom material to 1cc of alcohol is a potent brew. The more concentrated it becomes, the less alcohol needs to be consumed. When taking a dose, the alcohol can be evaported and the shroom extract taken. Dispense the psilo-liqueur with a syringe for accuracy. Accuracy is important, because a slight over calculation could put a slightly reluctant psychonaut on pluto when only the moon was targeted.

The concentrated shroom liqueur will have a pungent mushroomy aroma (like fungi perfume). Store it in small screw cap bottles or vials in the freezer. Alcohol doesn't freeze solid and will remain liquid.

PROCURING 200 PROOF ETHYL ALCOHOL FROM A LIQUOR STORE
First, call a well stocked liquor store and ask if they have 200 proof anhydrous ethyl alcohol. Full service liquor stores supply hospitals and laboratories with 200 proof anhydrous ethyl (100% pure ethyl alcohol - no water) in the United States. 200 proof is preferred because it has no water. 190 proof (95% ethyl - 5% water) is ok but 5% residual water is a negative, especially when evaporated down. If the store doesn't have 200 proof, the salespeople will know where to get it.

If a permit is needed, call the state liquor board (usually in the State Capital) and ask for an application to get an ethyl alcohol permit. The fee is 5 or 10 dollars. On the application will be a question asking what the use of the alcohol will be. Write what they more or less want to hear. State that the use of the alcohol will be for "non-toxic surface sterilizing plus herb extraction - preservation - tincture - and perfume making" (or something to that effect). The poison warnings on the alcohol bottles and this idiotic red tape are just bureaucratic nonsense that results in the state making a big fat bundle off of the sale.


SUPPLY LIST
shrooms
200 proof ethyl alcohol
drinking glass (spoon - knife ect.)
funnel
bottles with tight caps (whiskey bottles - pop bottles - ect.)
dust-pollen masks
small desk fan
10cc syringe (measurement and dispensing)

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The link: http://www.fanaticus.com/liqueu~1.htm



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Re: Psylocybe Fanaticus's Psilocybin Extraction Te [Re: Jammer]
    #588649 - 03/25/02 03:29 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

200 proof ethanol is unnecessary. 190 (95%) is no worse. Pure ethanol will absorb water from the air quite readily and you will be left with 95% alcohol anyway.

I wouldn't count on anything extracted to last very long like this. Forget about putting it on blotter. It may last a week or so in the freezer.

Why do people want magic mushroom liquer anyway? Psilocybin is happily soluble in water (hot and acidic please, waiter).

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Re: Psylocybe Fanaticus's Psilocybin Extraction Te [Re: dirk gently]
    #588738 - 03/25/02 07:10 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Methanol, not ethanol can be used to extract psilocine form powdered mushrooms. Pharmaceutical seives are rccommended for filters.\

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Re: Psylocybe Fanaticus Psilocybin Extraction Tek! [Re: Jammer]
    #588750 - 03/25/02 07:43 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

why not just produce yur own alky..i can get close to 190 proof with two runz thru the still.....
it's all illegal anyway....moonshinin....shroomshinin...no diff.


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Re: Psylocybe Fanaticus's Psilocybin Extraction Te [Re: dirk gently]
    #588778 - 03/25/02 08:29 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

I am very curious why you think that this extract would degrade so fast.


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Re: Psylocybe Fanaticus Psilocybin Extraction Tek!! [Re: Jammer]
    #588793 - 03/25/02 08:48 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Nice post & Sonicboom pic JAMMER!

95% alc. is way less expensive than 100% & makes virtually no difference.

Now generally I believe alot of PF's stuff, but I don't think a 3gr/1cc concentrate can be made & if it can that it'll keep long... Acording to my sources Psilocybin is poorly soluable in alc. Suppose your Tekkies contain 1% Psilocybin, the % in alc should be about 3% PSB. I could be wrong but I think because PSB is an amine salt of Phosphoric Acid this conc. can't be had. Psilocin would be more sol, but far less stable. My gut tells me no, but the only way of knowing is trying...

For largescale dudes Methanol is both cheaper & a better solvent, but it has to be removed entirely since it is poisonous (not very, but severely so).

I've read about Psilo Blotter too. Don't think it's feasible at all. Suppose your blotter's 1x1cm. Theorizing away I'd say you can get only about 2.5mg (2500mcg) of stuff inthere tops. Great for LSD, DOB & such, but you'll need on average at least 12.5mg of Psilocybin for a reasonable hit. Besides: blotter tends to rapidly oxidize & stuff like Psilocin is highly unstable in that regard.
Isolated Psilocybin is best for pills, in my view blotter is out.
Besides: who'd sell Psilocybin as LSD? LSD is cheaper & less desirable, since most Trippers prefer PSB over LSD. (at least here in NL)
Petite doses of LSD (say 20-40mcg) can have a duration like PSB, tho. But: if it ain't bitter-acidic tasting it ain't PSB, so I'm told.


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Re: Psylocybe Fanaticus Psilocybin Extraction Tek!! [Re: Asante]
    #588821 - 03/25/02 09:42 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

What is PSB?


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Re: Psylocybe Fanaticus Psilocybin Extraction Tek!! [Re: Sterile]
    #588851 - 03/25/02 10:44 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

PsiloS(C)yBin.


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Re: Psylocybe Fanaticus's Psilocybin Extraction Te [Re: Jammer]
    #588858 - 03/25/02 10:51 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

As long as they are stored properly, they will last. If they are not stored properly, they will degrade quickly because there is nothing to prevent oxygen, heat, light, and moisture from coming in contact with the goods. The fruitbody itself acts as a buffer and helps prevent decomposition.



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Re: Psylocybe Fanaticus Psilocybin Extraction Tek!! [Re: Anno]
    #588875 - 03/25/02 11:19 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Thanx Annooo :wink:


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Re: Psylocybe Fanaticus's Psilocybin Extraction Te [Re: Seuss]
    #589030 - 03/25/02 04:05 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

sealed tinted glass bottles, such as those used for essential oils (cobalt blue), and possibly stored in a freezer should help lessen the degrading of the resulting liquid......the higher percentage ethyl alcohol will help even more, less water to oxidise the alkaloids.....mostly the psilocin will be at risk.


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Re: Psylocybe Fanaticus Psilocybin Extraction Tek!! [Re: Jammer]
    #589043 - 03/25/02 04:20 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

is there anyone out there that has tried these extractions (not a tea extraction)?
if so what do you think about the results?


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Re: Psylocybe Fanaticus Psilocybin Extraction Tek!! [Re: yogithehoneybear] * 1
    #589482 - 03/26/02 12:25 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

hello,
Yes a good frind has tried this. He got 195 proof medical grade stuff for making tinctures. He weighed the material and then powdered in coffee grinder. It was reweighed and calculations were done. He used more than pf recommends. He soaked it and shook it. Strained, and resoaked. And then a final time. Each time it was shaken vigourously many times a day. Fresh 195 proof was added each time. They were combined and reduced. It was funneled into a few small amber and cobalt blue bottles, and tightly lidded.

Well to summarize, he eventually tried it and felt nothing. He took enough that it corresponded to a hefty dosage. (like 5g about) He was sad and felt he had wasted them. Tottal amount used was about 1oz.

He never figured out why it didnt work. He followed recipe to a tee.(no heat,light etc..) Will never do again.


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Re: Psylocybe Fanaticus Psilocybin Extraction Tek!! [Re: Asante]
    #589623 - 03/26/02 03:51 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Man, I am so glad that SOMEBODY ELSE has also read about Psilo Blotter. Man, I was starting to be convinced that I imagined it!

Can you advise as to where you read this? 'cuz I have been racking my brain here trying to recall where I read it, it's almost drove me crazy.

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Re: Psylocybe Fanaticus Psilocybin Extraction Tek!! [Re: black_dove]
    #592219 - 03/28/02 09:33 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

There is another member here that claims that this tek DOES work, I sure wish that he would of responded to this thread.

Anyone else know anyone that has tried this tek? 'cuz I have read in another thread where someone advised that it did work.

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Re: Psylocybe Fanaticus Psilocybin Extraction Tek!! [Re: Jammer]
    #592572 - 03/29/02 07:44 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

The "PF" alcohol extraction really does work. An aquaintance of mine successfully extracted "blue juice" from about 4 grams of shrooms. He reported that upon taking the extraction he could not tell the difference to eating four grams of mushrooms. However, he reported the substance to taste worse than the actual mushrooms! He felt no need to continue to extract psilocybin.

Personally, I don't believe you could put this substance on paper. I believe if you put the Psilocybin on paper the alcohol would eventually evaporate and all of the compounds would oxidize. This is not scientific fact, merely my opinion.

It might be worth experimenting with though. Who knows?


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