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TennStud Weight vs. Volume
#5884688 - 07/21/06 02:30 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Can anyone, preferably a TennStud rep, give me an approximate volume:weight ratio of the basic dry substrate product?
I do not measure my substrate preparations by weight. I do it all by volume. I am interested in placing an order but the listed weights mean nothing to me. I need an approximate volume:weight ratio in order to comprehend how much I'm ordering for the $.
For example, a typical mycobag mix will contain 3 cups soaked and drained chopped straw, 2 cups of soaked and drained millet, 1 cup of dry manure, .5 cup of BRF, 1.5 cups of water and 4 cups of vermiculite. I could not begin to tell you what those respective volumes weigh, though.
The sooner I get a straight answer the sooner I place my order.
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Re: TennStud Weight vs. Volume [Re: debianlinux]
#5885542 - 07/21/06 07:40 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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4 cups (bone dry & shredded) of my personal supply - uncompacted weights just shy of 1/2 lb.
That is not compacted.
Just by the fluffy scoops, with a 2 cup measure.
I would wager, his must weigh very near the same.
If it is as dry, as my supply?
The bag weights a couple grams, also.
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Re: TennStud Weight vs. Volume [Re: debianlinux]
#5885986 - 07/21/06 10:24 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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On their FAQ it says that 5 lbs of pre-pasteurized poo fills a 12x12x4 container, so that would be 576 cubic inches.
5 pounds of dry poo would be like buying about 15 lbs of pre-pasteurized poo, so that would be 1728 cubic inches. So 5 lbs of dry poo would be 25.71390307 quarts of poo.
1 quart of dry matter = 67.201 cubic inches 1 pint of dry matter = 33.36005 cubic inches 1 cup of dry matter = 16.80025 cubic inches
I recently had to do a lot of calculations with dry volumes when setting up my monotub.
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Re: TennStud Weight vs. Volume [Re: Arrakis]
#5886070 - 07/21/06 10:47 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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A lot would depend on the compression ratio (if any), of the h/poo.
My guy can compress it into BRICKS.
Those, by volume weigh FAR more, than uncompressed h/poo, fresh out of the shredder.
Pictures seldom lie.
This is 4 cups of fluffy h/poo.
 49/100 of a pound. Plus bag weight.
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Re: TennStud Weight vs. Volume [Re: Tippinthru]
#5886123 - 07/21/06 11:14 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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The point is that if he buys 5 lbs of dry poo, then it will be AT LEAST 24 quarts.
Tennstud's poo is either shredded or in pellet form. Besides, nobody in their right mind would compress their poo to the point of being brick-like inside the container in which they intend to grow.
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Re: TennStud Weight vs. Volume [Re: Arrakis]
#5886240 - 07/22/06 12:12 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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The dry Tenn/Stud is shredded.
How compressed in the shipping box, is what would matter.
If you are going to figure volume, of substrate, as you would use it.
Certainly, you would not add spawn to a compressed brick of h/poo. 
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Re: TennStud Weight vs. Volume [Re: Tippinthru]
#5886478 - 07/22/06 02:09 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Crap, I figured out what was wrong w/ my calculations.
The Tennstud guy told me once that the FAQ was talking about WET weight, but when I plug in your numbers it seems that the FAQ must be talking about DRY weight.
So yeah, 5 lbs dry would be 8.5 to 10 quarts of poo.
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Edited by Arrakis (07/22/06 03:12 AM)
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Re: TennStud Weight vs. Volume [Re: Arrakis]
#5887507 - 07/22/06 01:07 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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 5 lb of dry shredded h/poo tightly compressed into a 8X18X4 inch bag.
Measured out uncompressed with a Pyrex measuring cup.
Equaled 52 uncompressed cups
1 cup = 0.25 quart.
52 X 4 = 13 quarts +/- a very small amount.
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Re: TennStud Weight vs. Volume [Re: Tippinthru]
#5888036 - 07/22/06 04:18 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Great responses guys, and much appreciated.
Just to clarify, I was basically trying to get a rough idea of how many mycobags can be formulated with 5lbs of TennStud product given that a single mycobag requires 1 cup of uncompressed, fluffy-style shredded poo.
5 shrooms to both of you!
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Re: TennStud Weight vs. Volume [Re: debianlinux]
#5888086 - 07/22/06 04:40 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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The tray above measures 17X12X5 inches full of uncompacted machine shredded very dry h/poo.
If you are using 1 cup (uncompressed) per bag.
I would think you could do about 50, possibly 52.
Rock on with your bad self.
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Re: TennStud Weight vs. Volume [Re: Tippinthru]
#5888139 - 07/22/06 05:02 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah, I am using a conservative estimate of 8 bags per lb in consideration of my order.
Suggestion to TennStud: Maybe include an approximate volume in your site listings.
Below is text of my own writing that I feel worth sharing with the community concerning the value fo this product:
Quote:
I have gone through the great pains to produce the product I instantly recognized on TennStud's page. My method involved hand collection, heated drying and finally hours of hand breaking and sifting that left a mess anywhere I performed the work and a horrible shit slime in my nose. OTOH, it has been BY FAR the best poo product I have ever used. By the time I needed to know the weight:volume ratio to make an educated order my product had already run out. My product looks exactly like the pictures on TennStud's site and, now having an idea of the ratio, I can say with great cetainty that I'm pretty psyched to have the opportunity to pay someone else to do that "shitty" work.
I am in no way affiliated with TennStud or any Shroomery sponsor.
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Re: TennStud Weight vs. Volume [Re: debianlinux]
#5902538 - 07/26/06 05:55 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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dunno if this will work but instead of opening a new thread:
why in god's name would pre-pasteurized substrate be 33% cheaper than the same substrate unpasteurized?
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Re: TennStud Weight vs. Volume [Re: debianlinux]
#5902580 - 07/26/06 06:22 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
debianlinux said: dunno if this will work but instead of opening a new thread:
why in god's name would pre-pasteurized substrate be 33% cheaper than the same substrate unpasteurized?
I think its because pasteurized subtrate have less poop and straw than dry stuff , pasteurized subatrate is moist so it weight more because it have water in it.
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Re: TennStud Weight vs. Volume [Re: jisk8]
#5902597 - 07/26/06 06:28 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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oh, yeah, der de der der. sometimes i think i'm some kind of idiot savant or some shit. thanks for the slap back into reality.
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Re: TennStud Weight vs. Volume [Re: debianlinux]
#5902892 - 07/26/06 08:19 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Water - moisture, is inexpensive. 
Water - moisture adds weight, you PAY FOR.
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