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Just a couple of quick questions before i start
    #5882520 - 07/20/06 08:08 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Ok,
Ive read and read and read some more. I have a few questions that I need answered. I see steps in the process explained one way, and then another way in the other teks.
1) Should the lids on the canning jars be turned upside down or not? Should the rubber seal be touching the glass or the ring of the canning jar?
2) When covering the


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Re: Just a couple of quick questions before i start [Re: sporesarethedoor]
    #5882561 - 07/20/06 08:17 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Are you doing a brf tek? This is what is do. Lids go on normal 4 holes in a square, Lid not to tight.. Just to the point it catches.. Yes the rubber should be touching.

When covering?

Brown rice verm / water mix should be lose.. don't pack it (i made that mistake)

I put it up to the beginning of the threads wipe of excess and put verm over the top .. Don't be afraid to be messy it doesn't have to be exact just make sure it's in the jar and no rice is w/ the top layer of verm ( the verm is its layer of protect ant) and make sure to put foil over the holes so water doesn't seep in when PC'ing

HELP ? i hope :smile:


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Re: Just a couple of quick questions before i start [Re: malarki]
    #5882614 - 07/20/06 08:30 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

put the lid upside down, rubber to ring, so that way it does not seal. i will also give you a tip to help speed up conolization of your jars. replace a 1/4 of the water you use to make up the brf tek with coffee. It really helps with colonzation of the jars. If you need more help feel free to pm me with questions


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Re: Just a couple of quick questions before i start [Re: malarki]
    #5882641 - 07/20/06 08:34 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

The only reason to invert the lids is so you don't destroy your fingernails trying to pry them off later.

Me, I do them rubber-down but most people here do rubber-up.

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Re: Just a couple of quick questions before i start [Re: splifner180]
    #5882671 - 07/20/06 08:38 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

i do rubber down. its a matter of preference and a negligibly tiny detail. i've never found it to create such a tight seal that it was really much effort to get it off later.

your second question got cut off. try posting it again.

i totally agree with kilroy on the coffee, see the "speeding up pf grows" thread in my signature for a bunch of useful tips in preparing your jars.


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Re: Just a couple of quick questions before i start [Re: creamcorn]
    #5882689 - 07/20/06 08:42 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Nice creamcorn I saved it, I was wondering if there was a way. I will try it out.


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Re: Just a couple of quick questions before i start [Re: creamcorn]
    #5882796 - 07/20/06 09:04 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah, my other questions did get cut off. Ok, the other ones were:

2) When I cover the jars with foil, should I put the foil in between the lid and the ring or over the outside?

3) Should I use tape to cover the holes? If so, should I do it before pressure cooking or after? When should I remove the tape?

4) How high should I fill the pressure cooker with water? Can I stack jars on top of each other or should I just make a single layer of jars?

5) I have the little alcohol pads that they use to clean your skin when you get a shot. Can I use those to sterilize the needle or do I need to do a flame as well?

Anything else I should know? The cakes I made are the brf kind, I followed this tek here: http://www.shroomery.org/index.php/par/7919

Thanks again for all your help


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Re: Just a couple of quick questions before i start [Re: sporesarethedoor]
    #5882802 - 07/20/06 09:07 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

2) either way works

3) if you have a verm barrier, NO. if you dont, YES

4) You can stack, put them sideways, whatever, just not upside down

5) Yes, you can use those... But I always flame regardless... And you don't need anything fancy, just a regular lighter... (flame, cool, then swab)

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Re: Just a couple of quick questions before i start [Re: liamtheloser]
    #5882815 - 07/20/06 09:11 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

2) its way easier to put it over the outside
3) tape goes on after PC'ing. the foil protects you. if you put it on before, under the foil, the heat likely will melt the tape making it a real pain in the ass, and can cause a vacuum in your jar. you don't really need tape at all, you can just lift the foil, inoculate, put foil back (loosely so it can breathe) as a dust cover.
4) 1" or so is enough. no more than half way up the side of your jar for sure.
5) those pads actually work great for flaming. they're like one-use alcohol lamps. set it on an upside-down coffee cup, and light it, you'll get a nice blue flame that burns about 15-20 seconds. dont worry, it goes out when the alcohol runs out and doesn't actually burn the pad. you don't really even need to flame, you can just wipe it off. flaming insures the inside of the needle is clean as well as the outside, but if you're using a vendor prepared syringe you're almost garunteed its nice and clean and sterile, wiping the outside just ensures nothing landed on it while it was exposed to air in the minute or two between jars. again its a preference thing.


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Re: Just a couple of quick questions before i start [Re: creamcorn]
    #5882849 - 07/20/06 09:27 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

2) *either is good outside is easier (doesnt tear)
3)*I personally dont use tape, And I havent had contams in my jars for a while. SOme air flow will help it colonize
4)*just up to the bottom of the jars, as many as will fit so it takes less time. just stack them neat so no water gets into jars (extra water= morelikely to contam)
5) *if it kills germs / bacteria it will work. (thats how they fight acene- its actually a bateria that causes it :smile: but flame is best. especially a flame w/ no soot IE butane, yep agree w/ creamcorn that's the only way to get the inside sterile. Just make sure it cools before injection so you dont singe the spores :smile:

*Have fun, you can be messy untill you PC and its then its sterile. Then Still have fun injecting your jars.. I made the mistake of not grinding rice enough, for me the fine powder works best... RIce kernels to big expanded in pc to much water.. mess... contams and less air space to conlonize.. oh and like i said.. i think i did at least dont pack it down :smile: coffee water is good too :smile:

MOst IMPORTANT SMILE AND ENJOY IT:) you will have mushy's soon :smile:


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Re: Just a couple of quick questions before i start [Re: malarki]
    #5883325 - 07/21/06 12:13 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks to all of you. I got everything set up and got things rolling pretty well. I inoculated 3 jars and am going to wait and see if they work out before I use up all the spores. I swear I barely pushed the plunger on each hole and I ended up using 2ccs in each jar. Ill post back in a week or so and let everyone know how its coming along. Thanks again!


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