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InvisibleRandalFlagg
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Does categorization stifle political debate?
    #5881627 - 07/20/06 02:50 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

When debating some political topic it is very easy to immediately pigeon-hole somebody as belonging to a certain group or branch of thought. When this happens all kinds of prejudices flood your brain and it is quite possible that you will close your mind to what the other person is saying.

Just a thought.


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Re: Does categorization stifle political debate? [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #5882363 - 07/20/06 07:09 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I am guilty of giving and receiving that prejudice.

The fact is this country is Deeply Divided.

62 million people voted for Bush.

60 million voted for Kerry.

The Greens received 400 thousand votes and the Libertarians 300 thousand. not even a Million combined!

Sorry they are not even in the game.

The republicans and Democrats are making ALL the Decisions that affect our lives here in American and around the world.

And most of those decisions are Deeply Divided between Rep's and Dem's.



Progressives, Liberals, Left, Moderates, are all Democrats in my opinion.

they are (democrats) pro-choice, want to increase the minimum wage, favors strong environmental protections, like gun control, thinks corporations have too much power and that the rich get away with not paying their fair share in taxes, believes the Iraq War was a mistake, wants a foreign policy centered on diplomacy and strong alliances, and favors civil unions for gays and lesbians.


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America's debt problem is a "sign of leadership failure"

We have "reckless fiscal policies"

America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.

Americans deserve better

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Re: Does categorization stifle political debate? [Re: lonestar2004]
    #5882377 - 07/20/06 07:14 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

And...?


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Re: Does categorization stifle political debate? [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #5882390 - 07/20/06 07:19 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

"democrat" and "republican" are not political philosophies, but party platforms. they are a set of mostly unrelated policy stances concocted to win the most votes. the majority of people (or if not that, at least the majority of people who are thinking for themselves) are not actually represented by either party. we should have a parliamentary system.

i know that doesn't directly pertain to what you're saying, but i wanted to throw it out there.


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Re: Does categorization stifle political debate? [Re: Basilides]
    #5882405 - 07/20/06 07:26 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

you can call me Conservative Neo conservative right winger Neocon.

No Problem.


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America's debt problem is a "sign of leadership failure"

We have "reckless fiscal policies"

America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.

Americans deserve better

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Re: Does categorization stifle political debate? [Re: lonestar2004]
    #5882414 - 07/20/06 07:30 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

???

I'm just wondering about your post, it seems a bit open ended and inconclusive.


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Re: Does categorization stifle political debate? [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #5884481 - 07/21/06 01:39 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

When debating some political topic it is very easy to immediately pigeon-hole somebody as belonging to a certain group or branch of thought.

This is called stereotyping and seems much easier than thinking.

When this happens all kinds of prejudices flood your brain and it is quite possible that you will close your mind to what the other person is saying.

This is called cognitive dissonance.


Edited by MushmanTheManic (07/21/06 01:44 PM)


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Re: Does categorization stifle political debate? [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #5884497 - 07/21/06 01:48 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Categorization is ultimately unavoidable. Our brains are programmed to compartmentalize the information we take in, in order to process it. The trick is to recognize that these categories are fallible representations of reality, and not reality itself.


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