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House overwhelmingly backs Israel in vote
    #5881100 - 07/20/06 11:37 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060720/ap_on_go_co/us_mideast

Some highlights:

WASHINGTON - The House, displaying a foreign affairs solidarity lacking on issues like
Iraq, voted overwhelmingly Thursday to support
Israel in its confrontation with Hezbollah guerrillas.

The resolution, which was passed on a 410-8 vote, also condemns enemies of the Jewish state.

House Republican leader John Boehner cited Israel's "unique relationship" with the United States as a reason for his colleagues to swiftly go on record supporting Israel in the latest flare-up of violence in the Mideast.
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So strong was the momentum for the resolution that it was steamrolling efforts by a small group of House members who argued that Congress's pro-Israel stance goes too far.

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"I'm just sick in the stomach, to put it mildly," said Rep. Nick J. Rahall (news, bio, voting record) II, D-W.Va., who is of Lebanese descent.

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Rahall joined other Arab-American lawmakers in drafting an alternative resolution that would have omitted language holding Lebanon responsible for Hezbollah's actions and called for restraint from all sides. Rahall said that proposal was "politely swept under the rug," a political reality he and others say reflects the influence Israel has in Congress.

"There's a lot (of lawmakers) that don't feel it's right ... but vote yes, and get it the heck out of here," Rahall said.

Rep. Darrell Issa (news, bio, voting record), R-Calif., who co-sponsored the alternative resolution and also is of Lebanese descent, agreed. The American Israel Public Affairs Committee lobby "throws in language that AIPAC wants. That isn't always the best thing for this body to endorse," Issa said.

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"This is the usual problem with any resolution that talks about Israel — there are a lot of closet naysayers up there (in Congress), but they don't want to be a target of the lobby" of Israel, said Eugene H. Bird, president of the Council for the National Interest, a group that harshly condemns Israel's military campaign.

"These guys aren't legislating. They're politicking," said James Zogby, president of the Arab American Institute.


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Re: House overwhelmingly backs Israel in vote [Re: dickdeadly]
    #5881113 - 07/20/06 11:40 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I've said it once, I'll say it again...

Fuck the house, fuck the senate, fuck me :frown:


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Re: House overwhelmingly backs Israel in vote [Re: dickdeadly]
    #5881149 - 07/20/06 11:49 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

PNAC loves Israel.


I don't.

The whole MidEast is like a bunch of fat fuckers fighting over Twinkies.


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Re: House overwhelmingly backs Israel in vote [Re: dickdeadly]
    #5881166 - 07/20/06 11:53 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Yay for rhetorical voting.


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Re: House overwhelmingly backs Israel in vote [Re: DNKYD]
    #5881169 - 07/20/06 11:54 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I find it kind of interesting to get this other side of the news story - that there are lawmakers who are actually opposed to the support of Israel, yet must feel extremely pressured. 410 to 8. That's pressure.

The other day I saw a Yahoo! News story that went somewhere along the lines of:
American and European citizens are being transported from Lebanon via ships.

And I thought, hmm .. doesn't Israel have a naval blockade on Lebanon? Yes, they do.
And I thought, hmm .. Israel bombed the shit out of the one major road leading out of Lebanon, right? Yes, they did.

Then I read something else interesting: Yahoo! News reported, and I paraphrase, 'other civilians are fleeing in other manners, taking to Lebanon's back roads.'

So basically, Israel is saying, 'hey whities: get the fuck out cuz this place is gonna get scorched. Oh, look there's Muslims escaping. Yeah, bomb 'em.'


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Re: House overwhelmingly backs Israel in vote [Re: dickdeadly]
    #5881180 - 07/20/06 11:58 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Israel is just as much of a piece of shit as Iran or any of the other countries they love to hate.

I really try these days to not hate so much, but it's so hard. With all this bullshit going on it's damn near impossible to show compassion for them.


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Re: House overwhelmingly backs Israel in vote [Re: DNKYD]
    #5881185 - 07/20/06 12:00 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I don't want to hate either side, but its hard not to, when all they do is fucking kill eachother and then blame it all on the other one.


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Re: House overwhelmingly backs Israel in vote [Re: ClammyJoe]
    #5881194 - 07/20/06 12:03 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I really don't hate any side. Because I know all sides have amazing and terrible people living within their borders. I have met wonderful Jews. I have met wonderful Muslims. I think Larry David is hilarious, as a lot of other Jews. I think America is a wonderful place. I love it. But politics is politics, and humanity, I hear, has fallen some time ago. War. What can we do if not love each other?


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Re: House overwhelmingly backs Israel in vote [Re: dickdeadly]
    #5881200 - 07/20/06 12:04 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

And I know I'm preaching to the choir here, but Americans are sadly brainwashed. They have accepted, and will continue to accept war as legitimate means to profitable ends.


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Re: House overwhelmingly backs Israel in vote [Re: dickdeadly]
    #5881201 - 07/20/06 12:04 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Its hard to love, when all I see is hate. I sort of want to visit the region to see what its all really about for myself, but its a little too unstable at the moment I think.


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Re: House overwhelmingly backs Israel in vote [Re: dickdeadly]
    #5881204 - 07/20/06 12:04 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

What's really funny is that other countries got their citizens out in a couple of days and the US has been much much slower. :shiftyeyes:


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Re: House overwhelmingly backs Israel in vote [Re: buckwheat]
    #5881206 - 07/20/06 12:05 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Ooh, road trip!


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Re: House overwhelmingly backs Israel in vote [Re: DNKYD]
    #5881212 - 07/20/06 12:06 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

DNKYD said:
Israel is just as much of a piece of shit as Iran or any of the other countries they love to hate.

I really try these days to not hate so much, but it's so hard. With all this bullshit going on it's damn near impossible to show compassion for them.




True, The Israelies are geniuses at wars of words. They have probably the best and most precise propaganda machine. They have already turned this entire country on their side. Its a matter of time before we end up getting involved in their shit.

I turn on the TV and it looks to me like a punch of poor fucking arabs getting bombed to the stone age. I feel pretty bad for them cause most of them didnt have anything to do with this shit.
It would be like Mexico bombing Texas because a bunch of texans kidnapped some mexican military.


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Re: House overwhelmingly backs Israel in vote [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
    #5881231 - 07/20/06 12:10 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Someone posted a very good profile on the founders of neo-conservatism and creators of New American Century here. I forget who it was, but I'll repost.

http://zfacts.com/p/775.html
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=1233


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Re: House overwhelmingly backs Israel in vote [Re: dickdeadly]
    #5881246 - 07/20/06 12:16 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

You can go to the New american century website and read about them wanting the takeover of Iraq before 911!


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Re: House overwhelmingly backs Israel in vote [Re: buckwheat]
    #5881254 - 07/20/06 12:20 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Yup. They make no secret of it yet probably only 2% of the population knows about it. Ask some random Faux News watching dipshit off the street what PNAC is and they'll just look at you funny and go back to gobbling up their spoon-fed propaganda.


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