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Re: From the Lebanese people to the so called "civilized" west : "THANK YOU" [Re: SirTripAlot]
#5904976 - 07/27/06 11:03 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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363 dead in Lebanon, 320 of them civilians %11 combatants
37 dead in Israel, including 17 civilians %54 combatants
these numbers are from 3 days ago.
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Re: From the Lebanese people to the so called "civilized" west : "THANK YOU" [Re: EquilibriuM]
#5904997 - 07/27/06 11:13 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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linky linky linky linky please. Only 43 dead Hezbolloids? Methinks something stinks. As in I fucking doubt it. Very much.
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Re: From the Lebanese people to the so called "civilized" west : "THANK YOU" [Re: zappaisgod]
#5905135 - 07/27/06 12:08 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: From the Lebanese people to the so called "civilized" west : "THANK YOU" [Re: EquilibriuM]
#5905188 - 07/27/06 12:31 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thank you fpr the link. I still stand by my previous statement that I doubt the Hezbollah casualty figures.
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Re: From the Lebanese people to the so called "civilized" west : "THANK YOU" [Re: zappaisgod]
#5905202 - 07/27/06 12:39 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: From the Lebanese people to the so called "civilized" west : "THANK YOU" [Re: zappaisgod]
#5905263 - 07/27/06 01:01 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: Thank you fpr the link. I still stand by my previous statement that I doubt the Hezbollah casualty figures.
You are too much. Please tell me you are Jewish at least. Then I can understand your irrational support of Israel, otherwise I am lost.
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Re: From the Lebanese people to the so called "civilized" west : "THANK YOU" [Re: Hank, FTW]
#5905368 - 07/27/06 01:33 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I am not Jewish. I am an atheist of non-Jewish descent (I once read that most Jews are really atheists anyway but that is neither here nor there). No, I admire them because they are mostly self reliant. I know the US supplies a lot of aid but it is only because of the military situation they are in. They still use only their own soldiers. If they weren't under constant threat of annihilation by their neighbors we could cut them loose and they would do fine. My support for them is part and parcel of the fight against totalitarian thugs. Don't forget, it is not the US that drew the mideast map. Some European assholes did that. It is, nonetheless, what is. They have a tiny piece of the former Ottoman Empire. Let them have it. All the other shit has come about because some pricks couldn't and can't deal with that.
I was alive and read the papers when the '67 war occurred and there were millions aligned against them and they prevailed. It's not a history book thing for me, it's real life, and their enemies were wrong then and they are wrong now. Ask yourself this; How come Jordan, Syria, and Egypt wouldn't take the Palestinians in after they lost the war? Or Saudi Arabia or any of the others? Don't forget, there were way fewer of them before they started having children at an absurd pace for 30+ years. Why just blame Israel for the plight of these people? And what happened when they gave back the Gaza Strip? And Lebanon? They just got more attacks. I sometimes just throw my hands up in the air.
Either that or it's just Jew hating, which I don't get. At all. Even though I know it's out there in a big way. Whatever happened to the Duck anyway?
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Re: From the Lebanese people to the so called "civilized" west : "THANK YOU" [Re: zappaisgod]
#5905535 - 07/27/06 02:26 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: From the Lebanese people to the so called "civilized" west : "THANK YOU" [Re: Redstorm]
#5905548 - 07/27/06 02:29 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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They have really cute little hats too.
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Re: From the Lebanese people to the so called "civilized" west : "THANK YOU" [Re: Redstorm]
#5905563 - 07/27/06 02:33 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I admire them because they are mostly self reliant
They are. When has a single US soldier fought for them?
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Re: From the Lebanese people to the so called "civilized" west : "THANK YOU" [Re: zappaisgod]
#5905580 - 07/27/06 02:37 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: I am not Jewish. I am an atheist of non-Jewish descent (I once read that most Jews are really atheists anyway but that is neither here nor there). No, I admire them because they are mostly self reliant. I know the US supplies a lot of aid but it is only because of the military situation they are in. They still use only their own soldiers. If they weren't under constant threat of annihilation by their neighbors we could cut them loose and they would do fine. My support for them is part and parcel of the fight against totalitarian thugs. Don't forget, it is not the US that drew the mideast map. Some European assholes did that. It is, nonetheless, what is. They have a tiny piece of the former Ottoman Empire. Let them have it. All the other shit has come about because some pricks couldn't and can't deal with that.
I was alive and read the papers when the '67 war occurred and there were millions aligned against them and they prevailed. It's not a history book thing for me, it's real life, and their enemies were wrong then and they are wrong now. Ask yourself this; How come Jordan, Syria, and Egypt wouldn't take the Palestinians in after they lost the war? Or Saudi Arabia or any of the others? Don't forget, there were way fewer of them before they started having children at an absurd pace for 30+ years. Why just blame Israel for the plight of these people? And what happened when they gave back the Gaza Strip? And Lebanon? They just got more attacks. I sometimes just throw my hands up in the air.
Either that or it's just Jew hating, which I don't get. At all. Even though I know it's out there in a big way. Whatever happened to the Duck anyway?
So where is the Palestinians little piece of land? Don't you dare say Gaza or the West Bank, cause that is a joke. I get the whole, underdog thing, but really, comparing the Israeli military to any Arab country is a joke. They have nukes, modern aircraft, tanks, navy, artillery, advanced hand held weaponry, etc etc etc. What do the Palestinians have? AK-47's, rocks, and those shitty little rockets that miss 99% of the time.
You think Arabs just fire rockets into Israel for no other reason then they don't think they have a right to exist? Every action has an equal and opposite reaction. Unless your Israel of course
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Re: From the Lebanese people to the so called "civilized" west : "THANK YOU" [Re: zappaisgod]
#5905589 - 07/27/06 02:38 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Nope, but that doesn't make them self-sufficient.
I receive money for food, tuition, and board from my parents while I am at school. Just because they don't come here and do my school work for me doesn't mean I'm self-sufficient. Good enough metapor?
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Re: From the Lebanese people to the so called "civilized" west : "THANK YOU" [Re: zappaisgod]
#5905591 - 07/27/06 02:39 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I admire them because they are mostly self reliant
They are. When has a single US soldier fought for them?
Iraq for starters. That is a war which benefited Israel more than any other country IMO. If they did have WMD they were no threat to us, but who would they have been a threat against??
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Re: From the Lebanese people to the so called "civilized" west : "THANK YOU" [Re: Hank, FTW]
#5905715 - 07/27/06 03:11 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: I am not Jewish. I am an atheist of non-Jewish descent (I once read that most Jews are really atheists anyway but that is neither here nor there). No, I admire them because they are mostly self reliant. I know the US supplies a lot of aid but it is only because of the military situation they are in. They still use only their own soldiers. If they weren't under constant threat of annihilation by their neighbors we could cut them loose and they would do fine. My support for them is part and parcel of the fight against totalitarian thugs. Don't forget, it is not the US that drew the mideast map. Some European assholes did that. It is, nonetheless, what is. They have a tiny piece of the former Ottoman Empire. Let them have it. All the other shit has come about because some pricks couldn't and can't deal with that.
I was alive and read the papers when the '67 war occurred and there were millions aligned against them and they prevailed. It's not a history book thing for me, it's real life, and their enemies were wrong then and they are wrong now. Ask yourself this; How come Jordan, Syria, and Egypt wouldn't take the Palestinians in after they lost the war? Or Saudi Arabia or any of the others? Don't forget, there were way fewer of them before they started having children at an absurd pace for 30+ years. Why just blame Israel for the plight of these people? And what happened when they gave back the Gaza Strip? And Lebanon? They just got more attacks. I sometimes just throw my hands up in the air.
Either that or it's just Jew hating, which I don't get. At all. Even though I know it's out there in a big way. Whatever happened to the Duck anyway?
So where is the Palestinians little piece of land? Don't you dare say Gaza or the West Bank, cause that is a joke. I get the whole, underdog thing, but really, comparing the Israeli military to any Arab country is a joke. They have nukes, modern aircraft, tanks, navy, artillery, advanced hand held weaponry, etc etc etc. What do the Palestinians have? AK-47's, rocks, and those shitty little rockets that miss 99% of the time.
You think Arabs just fire rockets into Israel for no other reason then they don't think they have a right to exist? Every action has an equal and opposite reaction. Unless your Israel of course
The Palestinians' piece? I dunno. Where is it? Where was it ever? Jordan, Egypt, Syria, Lebanon. Israel, until they sided with the Arab invaders in '67 they were a voting part of Israel. They fucked up. They backed the losers. You avoid my questions, by the way, and don't think I'm not gonna keep hammering them.
No, I don't think Arabs keep firing rockets into Israel for no reason. But the Palestinians aren't the reason. The reason is that they hate JEWS and want to make everybody on the planet be a Muslim.
And you are managing to mention the Israeli tech superiority and compare it to the Palestinians'. That is not the opponent that threatens annihilation, nor is it the opponent that they are pounding into smithereens (hopefully) with that technology in Lebanon. It is Syria and Iran's puppet, supplied by them. Do you think it was a pally rocket that hit that ship? Fuck, it was probably fired by Iranians. And according to the low casualty numbers cited by someone else for Hez, the gap doesn't seem to be so big (although I don't believe them)
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Re: From the Lebanese people to the so called "civilized" west : "THANK YOU" [Re: Redstorm]
#5905732 - 07/27/06 03:16 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Redstorm said: Nope, but that doesn't make them self-sufficient.
I receive money for food, tuition, and board from my parents while I am at school. Just because they don't come here and do my school work for me doesn't mean I'm self-sufficient. Good enough metapor?
You wanna play this, OK, I'll play. You're parents pay for only your books, you pay for everything else. Are you or are you not largely self sufficient? How about this one. Your parents pay for nothing but their taxes support the police force that keeps you from having your lunch money taken everyday. Are you or are you not largely self sufficient ( in your government subsidized university setting)?
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Re: From the Lebanese people to the so called "civilized" west : "THANK YOU" [Re: Hank, FTW]
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I admire them because they are mostly self reliant
They are. When has a single US soldier fought for them?
Iraq for starters. That is a war which benefited Israel more than any other country IMO. If they did have WMD they were no threat to us, but who would they have been a threat against??
Nothing that happened in Iraq was done for Israel. If anything, you could say it was done for Kuwait and Saudi Arabia, who was clearly next on the adventurer's list, the first go round. And us and the world (even though they are to stupid, a lot of them, to know it) when it was completed. It cannot be worse than it was, it had nothing to do with the Jews and the only question is how much better will it be.
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Re: From the Lebanese people to the so called "civilized" west : "THANK YOU" [Re: zappaisgod] 1
#5905806 - 07/27/06 03:38 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Could Israel exist without our support?
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Re: From the Lebanese people to the so called "civilized" west : "THANK YOU" [Re: Redstorm]
#5905868 - 07/27/06 03:59 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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If it wasn't under constant attack by millions of surrounding Muslim scum, absolutely.
Look, setting aside the whole idea of Israel, do you really want to encourage these troglodyte assholes into thinking that they can get anything at all with their vicious extortionate practices. There is so much wrong with the Muslim world that has absolutely nothing to do with Israel that it is almost anti-semitic to even conflate the two issues. Even if there were no Jews anywhere, and there aint that many anyway, there would still be a whole Jihadi problem. Because they are fucking crazy. Crazy. Crazy. Religious zealotry (and religion period) has been a pox on the planet for millennia. The only hope for mankind is people like me, reasonable atheists without irrational attachments to anything at all.
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Re: From the Lebanese people to the so called "civilized" west : "THANK YOU" [Re: zappaisgod]
#5905885 - 07/27/06 04:03 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: No, I admire them because they are mostly self reliant.
Israel is a VERY socialist country and the largest recipient of U.S. foreign aid (last I heard). They are militaristic, not self reliant. They are still suckling the nipples of the U.S. taxpayers. They are also very dependent on a large U.S. military presence in the mid-east to bolster their position. U.S. support for them has gained us enemies with little to show for it (except maybe contributing to motivations for 9/11). It's time for the Israelis to grow up and stop leaching off of U.S. taxpayers.
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Re: From the Lebanese people to the so called "civilized" west : "THANK YOU" [Re: Trepiodos]
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zappaisgod said: No, I admire them because they are mostly self reliant.
Israel is a VERY socialist country and the largest recipient of U.S. foreign aid (last I heard). They are militaristic, not self reliant. They are still suckling the nipples of the U.S. taxpayers. They are also very dependent on a large U.S. military presence in the mid-east to bolster their position. U.S. support for them has gained us enemies with little to show for it (except maybe contributing to motivations for 9/11). It's time for the Israelis to grow up and stop leaching off of U.S. taxpayers.
Yes, it is true they are the largest recipient. They are only militaristic because anything else would be suicidal. If their fucking neighbors would stop trying to murder each and every one of them they wouldn't need one cent of US support. No they are not dependant on our large presence in the mideast and never have been. I don't give a fuck what enemies I gain from doing the right thing. They are clearly criminals. Every car thief hates cops. It's time for the Muslims to grow up and stop trying to murder Israelis
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