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Re: From the Lebanese people to the so called "civilized" west : "THANK YOU" [Re: zappaisgod]
    #5883461 - 07/21/06 01:32 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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You are incorrect on your first part. Hezbollah is a part of Lebanon and they are either a nation or they are not. Since they are, they are responsible for the actions of a significant part of their country. That a part of their country is extra state actors is irrelevant. They have an obligation to assist the Israelis in the apprehension of these criminals. They either help arrest them or they are complicit. You cannot expect not to be held responsible for the vipers nest you harbor.




So you would have whole heartedly backed the UK government if they had decided to bomb the Republic of Ireland in response to IRA activities on the UK mainland?

You wouldnt have been outraged if the UK had bombed Dublin into the ground killing countless innocents?


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Re: From the Lebanese people to the so called "civilized" west : "THANK YOU" [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #5883474 - 07/21/06 01:39 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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If Resolution 1559 was followed through by Lebanon and the rest of the Arabic nations, would Hezbollah be in power now?
Innocent people die in war. It sucks, buts thats why it is war.




You are on very shaky ground when you start throwing around non-compliance of UN resolutions as a defence of Israeli actions.

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And to answer your question, weather its civilians or government personnel.....they have a right to take down anyone who chooses that course of action.

Utopian ideals dont stop bullets or rockets, I guess I am in your "moron" category




You talk as if Israel have had no other option open to them in trying to resolve this short lived hostage situation. Have you ever heard of John MCcarthy or Brian Keenan?

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I guess I am in your "moron" category




If you fail to see that there are extermists on both sides of this equation who are making the situation worse for innocents on both sides then yes Im afraid you are.

But to be honest Im sure you dont really think Israel are entirely blameless and that their response is completely fair, well balanced and intelligently thought out.


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Re: From the Lebanese people to the so called "civilized" west : "THANK YOU" [Re: GazzBut]
    #5886634 - 07/22/06 03:43 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

i am ban on Mycotopia to have posted this link :-D

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Re: From the Lebanese people to the so called "civilized" west : "THANK YOU" [Re: dtrak]
    #5887012 - 07/22/06 09:09 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

This attack by Israel on Lebanon is immoral and impractical.

It strengthens the enemies of Israel and civilization and further alienates those people within Lebanon and throughout the Middle East who might support a pragmatic detente with Israel in the interest of promoting peace and prosperity. While in the short term Hezbollah may be weakened or disarmed, its goals - the destruction of Israel and the establishment of a theocratic state in Lebanon and beyond - and ideals will receive a massive public relations boost, and many people who have been opposed to Hezbollah, such as Lebanese Christians (very roughly 40% of the population) or non-Shi'a Muslims (Marionites, Druze, Sunnis - unknown proportion, but probably 30% or more), may now find a common cause in a common enemy.


At the end of the 15-year Lebanese civil war in 1991, Hezbollah was allowed to keep its weapons to combat the Israeli occupation in southern Lebanon. The Israeli withdraw in 2000 had mixed implications for Hezbollah politically - on the one hand, it was a great victory for the organization; on the other, it removed the justification for the continued existence of their para-military wing and supplied ammunition for those in Lebanese politics who would disarm Hezbollah to place them on a level with the other political parties.


Although the Lebanese government was still weak before the recent war - too divided and uncertain to disarm Hezbollah - the same political groups that successfully pushed the Syrians out last year (over the objections of many Lebanese) would support the disarmament of Hezbollah. However, a strong and stable independent state would be necessary to accomplish that, something that could not be achieved before 2005 due to the twin occupations of Syria and Israel, and which had not been accomplished in the single year that passed before the Israeli invasion.

Of course, the dream of a strong Lebanese state capable of disarming Hezbollah and normalizing relations with Israel is now finished. The infrastructure that could have supplied the government with the necessary tourist and export revenue to become strong and stable has been destroyed, and Israel has hardened the hearts of those people who might have supported a real peace by killing their friends and family.


Hezbollah has long been a real threat to Israel - its members are deeply integrated in the social fabric of Southern Shi'a/Palestinian Lebanon, are well armed by Iran and Syria, and are wholly bent on the destruction of Israel (over the past 10 years they've pretty much shut up about establishing an Islamic state in Lebanon). There is no easy or moral way for the Israelis to rid themselves of this problem, and direct action may accomplish the short term goal of preventing kidnappings and rockets.

However, this war ends the hope for a stable, prosperous, and friendly Lebanon in the coming years and provides a tremendous boost for those in the Arab world who believe that there can be no peace with Israel. It makes me suspect that those in charge of Israel have no interest in peaceful relations with stable neighbors, but would rather keep their neighbors weak, dysfunctional, and violent to provide continued justification for the militarization of Israeli society and the massive foreign military and economic aid that Israel receives.


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Re: From the Lebanese people to the so called "civilized" west : "THANK YOU" [Re: phi1618]
    #5887201 - 07/22/06 10:58 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

most excellent analysis. thanks.


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Re: From the Lebanese people to the so called "civilized" west : "THANK YOU" [Re: Vvellum]
    #5889722 - 07/23/06 03:54 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Stop the fighting Now. Both sides.
This is idiotic.

No one should employ reason in defense of their lower nature.
That is obscene.

Go on, people. See where it gets you..



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Re: From the Lebanese people to the so called "civilized" west : "THANK YOU" [Re: GazzBut]
    #5889920 - 07/23/06 08:39 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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GazzBut said:
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You are incorrect on your first part. Hezbollah is a part of Lebanon and they are either a nation or they are not. Since they are, they are responsible for the actions of a significant part of their country. That a part of their country is extra state actors is irrelevant. They have an obligation to assist the Israelis in the apprehension of these criminals. They either help arrest them or they are complicit. You cannot expect not to be held responsible for the vipers nest you harbor.




So you would have whole heartedly backed the UK government if they had decided to bomb the Republic of Ireland in response to IRA activities on the UK mainland?

You wouldnt have been outraged if the UK had bombed Dublin into the ground killing countless innocents?




From my recollection of those times, Ireland was a wholly owned subsidiary of Great Britain, fully occupied by British troops. Now, why don't you merrily explain to me how this is similar to Lebanon.


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Re: From the Lebanese people to the so called "civilized" west : "THANK YOU" [Re: zappaisgod]
    #5890200 - 07/23/06 11:04 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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From my recollection of those times, Ireland was a wholly owned subsidiary of Great Britain, fully occupied by British troops. Now, why don't you merrily explain to me how this is similar to Lebanon.




Then your recollection is wrong. Northern Ireland was and still is a 'wholly owned subsidiary' (gotta love the corporate speak!) However Southern Ireland or the Republic of Ireland has been an independent state since 1922.

Now why dont you merrily answer my first, correctly stated question?

Btw Zappa, google is your friend..your recollection obviously isnt!  :smirk:


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Re: From the Lebanese people to the so called "civilized" west : "THANK YOU" [Re: GazzBut]
    #5890290 - 07/23/06 11:55 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

So I googled and went to my friend wikipedia and found this:
"The subsequent IRA was dedicated to the armed overthrow of both Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland by force of arms and their replacement with an all-Ireland republic."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provisional_IRA
That would be the provisional IRA which was involved in the attacks, not the official IRA. The official IRA was part of R o Ireland's government, the provisional IRA was not.
Now does that seem like the situation in Lebanon, where Hezbollah is part of the government? No, it does not. And tell me again, which part of Lebanon was occupied by Israel that these fine Lebanese patriots were rebelling against when they attacked Israel.

And no, I would not have supported the wholesale British bombing of Ireland. What I did in fact support was that Britain just get the fuck out of all of Ireland, fucking arrogant limey bastards forcing the partition of a perfectly good country. BRITS OUT.


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Re: From the Lebanese people to the so called "civilized" west : "THANK YOU" [Re: zappaisgod]
    #5890440 - 07/23/06 12:49 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

ha! ha! ha! why dont you just admit you have been pwned and take it like a man?

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That would be the provisional IRA which was involved in the attacks, not the official IRA. The official IRA was part of R o Ireland's government, the provisional IRA was not.





Yes entirely seperate orginisations. No links at all between the two groups...

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Now does that seem like the situation in Lebanon, where Hezbollah is part of the government? No, it does not. And tell me again, which part of Lebanon was occupied by Israel that these fine Lebanese patriots were rebelling against when they attacked Israel.





I never suggested the situations were entirely identical. I thought that was fairly obvious? However the IRA launched countless bombs on the UK mainland and killed many civillians. My point was that attacking a country is not the only response that can be made in these kind of situations.

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And no, I would not have supported the wholesale British bombing of Ireland.




So two people get kidnapped and a handful of people die in rocket attacks and you support the kind of barbaric response Israel are currently employing but the same kind of response is not acceptable if its against the irish in response to countless attacks which killed hundreds of civillians and soliders and posed a definite threat to our "homeland security"? What if we had only bombed villages where we knew there were bomb factories etc. Would that have been ok?

It's painfully obvious that your inconsistency is due to the fact that the Lebanese are middle east 'rag heads' im your eyes whereas the Irish are alot more closer to your own cultural identity. Take a deep breath and admit it, you might feel better for it!

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What I did in fact support was that Britain just get the fuck out of all of Ireland, fucking arrogant limey bastards forcing the partition of a perfectly good country. BRITS OUT.




Well at least we agree on something Zappa. Its a disgrace what happened in Ireland. Although its not quite as simple as us just getting out now. We should have just never taken the place over in the first place.

I dont get blinded by flags and patriotism into automatically condoning the actions of my country.


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Re: From the Lebanese people to the so called "civilized" west : "THANK YOU" [Re: GazzBut]
    #5890541 - 07/23/06 01:22 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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GazzBut said:
ha! ha! ha! why dont you just admit you have been pwned and take it like a man?

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That would be the provisional IRA which was involved in the attacks, not the official IRA. The official IRA was part of R o Ireland's government, the provisional IRA was not.





Yes entirely seperate orginisations. No links at all between the two groups...




What are you talking about? They hated each other and were at total cross purposes
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Now does that seem like the situation in Lebanon, where Hezbollah is part of the government? No, it does not. And tell me again, which part of Lebanon was occupied by Israel that these fine Lebanese patriots were rebelling against when they attacked Israel.





I never suggested the situations were entirely identical. I thought that was fairly obvious? However the IRA launched countless bombs on the UK mainland and killed many civillians. My point was that attacking a country is not the only response that can be made in these kind of situations.




You thought they were identical enough to draw the fallacious analogy. What response would you have made in Lebanon? Ankle grab?
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And no, I would not have supported the wholesale British bombing of Ireland.




So two people get kidnapped and a handful of people die in rocket attacks and you support the kind of barbaric response Israel are currently employing but the same kind of response is not acceptable if its against the irish in response to countless attacks which killed hundreds of civillians and soliders and posed a definite threat to our "homeland security"? What if we had only bombed villages where we knew there were bomb factories etc. Would that have been ok?




I thought you had previously admitted that the situations were different. Let me refresh your memory;
"I never suggested the situations were entirely identical." They aren't even close.
You also used the word "launched" in reference to IRA bombs. Interesting. I don't recall any daily launch of hundreds of rockets into England. Nor do I recall any incident wherein the IRA went into England and kidnapped soldiers. But, hey, maybe my memeory aint so good. I'm sure you'll refresh it.
Regardless, what Hezbollah was doing was completely intolerable and the Lebanese government did nothing to curtail them
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It's painfully obvious that your inconsistency is due to the fact that the Lebanese are middle east 'rag heads' im your eyes whereas the Irish are alot more closer to your own cultural identity. Take a deep breath and admit it, you might feel better for it!




Um, no. I have only one beef with the Lebanese and that is that they have allowed themselves to be co-opted by Syria, Iran and a terrorist organization. The Lebanese army should be ASSISTING Israel in the capture of the criminals. Unfortunately, they are not. One of Israel's requests is that the Lebanese army and not Hezbollah be stationed on the border. Hezbollah must go and Lebanon has to assist. Tough choices for Lebanon, but they have to make them. Otherwise, they are doomed to being co-opted by bad guys. With 'em or agin 'em, they have to make a stand. Do I call you an anti-semite for criticizing Israel? No, I do not, although there is no shortage of anti-semitic retards who are members here.
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What I did in fact support was that Britain just get the fuck out of all of Ireland, fucking arrogant limey bastards forcing the partition of a perfectly good country. BRITS OUT.




Well at least we agree on something Zappa. Its a disgrace what happened in Ireland. Although its not quite as simple as us just getting out now. We should have just never taken the place over in the first place.

I dont get blinded by flags and patriotism into automatically condoning the actions of my country.




Let's not forget, and gloss over, that the only similarity between Ireland and the middle east is that all the bullshit is over religion. I don't get blinded by flags either, contrary to what the America haters may think. My biggest complaint with our policy is that we don't do enough about it, which encourages assholes.


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Re: From the Lebanese people to the so called "civilized" west : "THANK YOU" [Re: zappaisgod]
    #5890621 - 07/23/06 01:48 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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What are you talking about? They hated each other and were at total cross purposes




Most memebers of the real IRA were ex members of the provisional IRA.

Check your facts.

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You thought they were identical enough to draw the fallacious analogy. What response would you have made in Lebanon? Ankle grab?




The main point I have been trying to make is that Israel have not been forced into this action. They could have chosen a different course. Many people on this board seem to believe there is real cause and effect at work here which is so breathtakingly stupid that I was merely trying to highlight this fact. My analogy was perfectly satisfactory for this point.

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Regardless, what Hezbollah was doing was completely intolerable and the Lebanese government did nothing to curtail them




The Lebanese government is not a strong or well established government. It is not a simple thing for them to control Hezbollah. Israel's actions mean that it will be nearly impossible for them to do so now.

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Um, no. I have only one beef with the Lebanese and that is that they have allowed themselves to be co-opted by Syria, Iran and a terrorist organization. The Lebanese army should be ASSISTING Israel in the capture of the criminals.




I agree the influence of Syria and Iran is not a good thing. Perhaps the Lebanese government also agree but find it difficult to extricate themselves from what is a very complex situation.

Are you really sure Israel's current actions are the most positive way forward towards peace and stability in the middle east?

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Let's not forget, and gloss over, that the only similarity between Ireland and the middle east is that all the bullshit is over religion.




Lets not forget the terrorist attacks and the deaths of many civillians and soldiers Zappa.


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Re: From the Lebanese people to the so called "civilized" west : "THANK YOU" [Re: GazzBut]
    #5890635 - 07/23/06 01:55 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

So, we come to this. What is it that you think Israel should have done? I am at a loss to come up with anything other than this. This is actually a whirlwind somewhat of their own making due to previous "prisoner" exchanges wherein they gave up 100 criminals for one businessman or one pilot. If I were one of these kidnapped soldiers I'd be pretty pissed off that there were ever any "prisoner" exchanges. But we're not talking about the past, we're talking about now. What do you think they should do? Not what do you think they shouldn't do. What do you think they should do?


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Re: From the Lebanese people to the so called "civilized" west : "THANK YOU" [Re: zappaisgod]
    #5890769 - 07/23/06 02:25 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I think the bastards should make peace with their neighbors. They stole the land they're on from the people of Palestine and kicked them off farms and homes they had owned for generations. The fact of the matter is, any displaced people have a right of resistance under international law and that's what they're doing. Another fact is Israel kills ten times as many innocent civilians in the occupied territories and now Lebanon as the resistance kills in Israel. All of it could end if Israel will pull back to the pre 1967 borders and let the Palestinian people have a state, but no, Israel is copying what they learned from Hitler and wants to kill off their enemies instead of living together in peace. As long as they remain arrogant and genocidal, they will live in a state of war, and American citizens will be forced to pay for it all with our taxes in order to satisfy the voting block of Christians who think Israel is 'God's chosen people'. The whole thing makes me sick.


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Re: From the Lebanese people to the so called "civilized" west : "THANK YOU" [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #5891102 - 07/23/06 03:36 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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I think the bastards should make peace with their neighbors. They stole the land they're on from the people of Palestine and kicked them off farms and homes they had owned for generations. The fact of the matter is, any displaced people have a right of resistance under international law and that's what they're doing. Another fact is Israel kills ten times as many innocent civilians in the occupied territories and now Lebanon as the resistance kills in Israel. All of it could end if Israel will pull back to the pre 1967 borders and let the Palestinian people have a state, but no, Israel is copying what they learned from Hitler and wants to kill off their enemies instead of living together in peace. As long as they remain arrogant and genocidal, they will live in a state of war, and American citizens will be forced to pay for it all with our taxes in order to satisfy the voting block of Christians who think Israel is 'God's chosen people'. The whole thing makes me sick.




They won Gaza and West Bank during the six day war. Then gave Gaza back and then Hamas started to fire rockets from Gaza. Heh, they totaly shouldn't have given Gaza back.


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Re: From the Lebanese people to the so called "civilized" west : "THANK YOU" [Re: nakors_junk_bag]
    #5892652 - 07/23/06 10:23 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

jews, lol


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Re: From the Lebanese people to the so called "civilized" west : "THANK YOU" [Re: MAIA]
    #5892685 - 07/23/06 10:40 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Thoughts from a Lebanese blogger --

Hezbollahs Filthy Methods
Posted by N10452


For the past 11 days, we have seen Israel bomb all sorts of targets and I am sure most of us were wondering why would Israel bomb a certain factory or a construction yard or a truck..

If we can for a moment turn off all the local and international channels who have nothing to do but show little dead children and dismembered bodies that touch the viewer to a certain degree that it would blind them, and think about the reasons behind those hits.

From a military point of view, you have a fully equipped army, ranked in the top 5 armies in the world fighting against a guerrilla militia with absolutely no info on its fighters, weapons and locations.

Even though the Israeli army is way superior in terms of weapons, technology and size than Hezbollah, its war must be a very cautious and tactical one since its fighting a guerilla militia.

We have seen Israel for example hitting a tissue factory in a small village in the south. The reason for that would be Hezbollah move around with a missile in a truck, park near a factory and fire a rocket then flee. The origin of the rocket being the factory, Israelis respond by hitting it.

A witness to a similar action went on TV and urged Hezbollah fighters to stop coming into his village to shoot rockets and then run away since the village is being destroyed.

Same for the truck that was carrying civilians and that became very suspicious when it was not allowed to enter the UN offices.

Fighting a guerrilla is very hard and knowing that they could shoot from anywhere, we should expect attacks on unusual places.

Innocent people are dying this is true, but I believe the way Hezbollah is operating and its filthy methods in infiltrating villages and using them as launch positions is causing all those casualties.

Of course Israelis have hit bridges recklessly during the day killing innocent civilians trying to cross the bridge, but its war and you always have victims.

On the other hand, the party thats hitting civilians randomly and threatening innocent lives is Hezbollah who is launching rockets with no sense of direction whatsoever. I have seen rockets land on balconies, small cafes, walls… anything but military targets.

Finally, I heard that Hezbollah has accepted that the government negotiate on the prisoners fate today, therefore I hope that they realized they haven’t achieved anything except self destruction politically and militarily and most of all the destruction of Lebanon and putting it in economical ruin for the next 5 years.

http://www.ouwet.com/n10452/personal-opinions/hizbullah-s-filthy-methods/

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Re: From the Lebanese people to the so called "civilized" west : "THANK YOU" [Re: Phred]
    #5892845 - 07/23/06 11:43 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

so? a "lebanese blogger" and his or her opinions are still just opinions.

you seem to suggest that Israel's murder of hundreds of civilians is justified and is the only way to escape from this dire situation. one question: how is bombing these people going to create peace with Israel and the greater region of the middle east? ("you gotta break an egg to cook an omlette" - nevermind the egg is an innocent human being - remember stating that pinksharkmark in debate against socialism? strange how your position so readily changes.) even if hezbollah is neutralized, the cycle will continue because hatred of Israel and her bloody actions will only be inflamed and usually-marginalized extremist ideology will be validated and popularized. Hezbollah may cease to exist, but other groups will only rise to power.

The only way there will be peace in the middle east is if the islamic extremists are not validated by Israel's murdereous actions and they remain marginal (and thus ineffective) and if economic prosperity flourishes in the region. Israel must stay strong and patient and of morals while business must be allowed to grow. If young men (and women) are well-off, educated, have a future to look forward to, and have responsibility to attend to (and thus are not desparate and nihilistic) as well as not have a reason to hate Israel, they will not give thought to join ranks of terrorists. Game over.


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Re: From the Lebanese people to the so called "civilized" west : "THANK YOU" [Re: zappaisgod]
    #5893469 - 07/24/06 03:14 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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What is it that you think Israel should have done? I am at a loss to come up with anything other than this.




Off the top of my head, special forces could be employed to take out Hezbollah leaders etc and try to rescue hostages as opposed to the heavy handed destruction of the infrastructure of the country which is causing such a heavy toll of civillian casualties. Actions which in the long run will only serve to increase hatred towards Israel in the Lebanon specifically and the Arab states in general.


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Re: From the Lebanese people to the so called "civilized" west : "THANK YOU" [Re: Phred]
    #5893474 - 07/24/06 03:16 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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We have seen Israel for example hitting a tissue factory in a small village in the south. The reason for that would be Hezbollah move around with a missile in a truck, park near a factory and fire a rocket then flee. The origin of the rocket being the factory, Israelis respond by hitting it.

A witness to a similar action went on TV and urged Hezbollah fighters to stop coming into his village to shoot rockets and then run away since the village is being destroyed.




Perhaps the Israeili Intelligence should read this blog to realise how much unneccessary carnage they are actually causing.


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